Can your gentics be clean if you clone after flower?

I have been reading of Monster cropping and what not, but if you let your plant go to flower how do you think you are going to keep good genetics?
Cloning Prior to flower,(or in veg.), keeps your genetics clean. Cloning after flower, can only open your-self to screwed-up genetics.
Explain how this works please.

AZPsyclops said:

I have been reading of Monster cropping and what not, but if you let your plant go to flower how do you think you are going to keep good genetics?
Cloning Prior to flower,(or in veg.), keeps your genetics clean. Cloning after flower, can only open your-self to screwed-up genetics.
Explain how this works please.

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No.

Plants will shoot 1 blade and 3 blade when being reveged but will go back to normal.

There is no genetic drift from monstercropping.

AZPsyclops said:

I have been reading of Monster cropping and what not, but if you let your plant go to flower how do you think you are going to keep good genetics?
Cloning Prior to flower,(or in veg.), keeps your genetics clean. Cloning after flower, can only open your-self to screwed-up genetics.
Explain how this works please.

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Monster cropping can lead to hermaphroditism due to stress on the plant, reverting it and progressing it repetitively. If it's been reverted, the seed will know the mother has. So will the clone, as the clone's been a part of it. So, it may show hermaphroditic tendencies.

Olive Drab Green said:

Monster cropping can lead to hermaphroditism due to stress on the plant, reverting it and progressing it repetitively. If it's been reverted, the seed will know the mother has. So will the clone, as the clone's been a part of it. So, it may show hermaphroditic tendencies.

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That's the theory, anyway.

Olive Drab Green said:

Monster cropping can lead to hermaphroditism due to stress on the plant, reverting it and progressing it repetitively. If it's been reverted, the seed will know the mother has. So will the clone, as the clone's been a part of it. So, it may show hermaphroditic tendencies.

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Negative. Proof?

what do you mean by clean and unclean genetics?
it doesn't matter when you take a clone, a clone by it's very nature is an exact copy of the plant it came from..

After a plant goes into puberty they can all be different.
I have had the same 3 strains for over three years and they still hold the original pheno and geno appearance.
I always clone in veg because I have no room to grow a mom.
I still get symetricaly perfect 7 leafs on the AK and perfect 9 to 11 on the Kush, even after 4 years.
The plants literally come out identical except for the season.

I had a customer give me a seed from a Bruce Banner batch.
I know that the grower of the Bruce got the plant from a female clone, which means that the seed I found had screwed genetics.
I called it Katlin Jenner. I no longer grow this.
If you intend to grow the same genotypes every time why would you clone when the hormones in the plant are changing?

I want to know if I am wrong?
I am self taught and always need to learn more.

AZPsyclops said:

I want to know if I am wrong?
I am self taught and always need to learn more.

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i still don't understand what you're asking.. a plant in flower is no different than a plant in veg, so long as it's the same strain, it'll still carry the same dna.. just because one clone came from a flowering plant vs a vegging one makes no difference as it's not changing the dna of the plant..
hormones or not, the plant is still going to express the same traits as the plant it came from, that's what a clone is..

A plant is not the same as it is in veg as in flower.
If it was the plant would be an autoflower.

Is a person the same before purberty as they are after?

The change in light hours triggers hormones in the plant to tell it to flower.

Every plant can change due to climate and environment after it starts to flower.
I can make hermi traits by shocking a plant in flower.
I have never heard of that happening in veg?

Have you thought about this before you tried it?
How many years are your geno-phenotyoes the same?
If you don't keep a mother and clone after flower aren't you getting the genotype of the pubescent plant and not the original baby?

I'm not trying to be a know it all, but I can't imagine a breeder doing that.
I am not.

I'm not a breeder just a grower.

AZPsyclops said:

I want to know if I am wrong?
I am self taught and always need to learn more.

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You're wrong.

AZPsyclops said:

A plant is not the same as it is in veg as in flower.
If it was the plant would be an autoflower.

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Yes it is. It is the exact same DNA. DNA doesn't change.

AZPsyclops said:

Is a person the same before purberty as they are after?

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Yes, they are. If you were to do a DNA test before and after puberty, it would be the same DNA.

Plants and humans aren't the same.

Any cannabis plant can herm. It is a survival trait that ensure progeny in nature.

Gg#4 will herm out from to much wind.

What you speak of is called environmental factors, not genetics.

Olive Drab Green said:

Monster cropping can lead to hermaphroditism due to stress on the plant, reverting it and progressing it repetitively. If it's been reverted, the seed will know the mother has. So will the clone, as the clone's been a part of it. So, it may show hermaphroditic tendencies.

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Prove this. Ive been reveging clones out of flower for years and never seen this. I want to see some proof.

AZPsyclops said:

I have been reading of Monster cropping and what not, but if you let your plant go to flower how do you think you are going to keep good genetics?
Cloning Prior to flower,(or in veg.), keeps your genetics clean. Cloning after flower, can only open your-self to screwed-up genetics.
Explain how this works please.

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I take it youre new to growing? And saying what not is not normal. What does it mean?