Care Giver..or Drug Dealer?

ismokealotofpot

ismokealotofpot

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bob harris said:
The more I read posts by Timmahh and his minions, the more I am certain that they care not for patient rights. When a situation occurs that a patient can't grow their own meds, a care giver is a viable and fair means of support for that patient. As long as the care giver is just that, a care giver.

Yes, the care giver should be re numerated for his efforts. But no where in the law, or it's intent. was the care giver given the right to make care giving a high paid career.

That's exactly what Timmahh wants. he feels that a patient, should be allowed to become a cg, then grow out all 72 plants that he is legally "entitled" to. Regardless of actual patient needs. He is trying to justify that care giver flowering out 36 plants or so every 2 months. 108 oz dry at 3 oz per plant. Then suggests that it's fine for that cg to give his patients an oz a month...so 12 ozs from that 108..leaving 96 oz per month to sell to whomever he wish (so long as they have a card) at 200 an oz minimum. That's $19,200 every two months for the cg...That's a profiteer, a cannabis dealer, not a care giver...

He's trying to justify a six figure income...as fair compensation for helping 5 patients.....for work that is worth far , far less.

And that folks, has nothing to do with caring for patients....it's greed, pure and simple.
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Who gets 96 ozs a month? every month? really? bob have you ever tried to grow 96 ozs a month? how do you propagate 72 plants to get 96 ozs every month? give that a try and let us know how that goes. You make a lot of assumptions and count chicks before they hatch. im sick of you stupid math lessons.
 
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bob harris

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ismokealotofpot said:
Who gets 96 ozs a month? every month? really? bob have you ever tried to grow 96 ozs a month? how do you propagate 72 plants to get 96 ozs every month? give that a try and let us know how that goes. You make a lot of assumptions and count chicks before they hatch. im sick of you stupid math lessons.
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TWO months..sorry for the typo..math works
 
bmf725

bmf725

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Did you figure in all the time to trim 96 ounces? I mean it takes me a good 4-6 hours to properly trim up 8-10 ounces. So your talking 45+ hours just to trim all of that.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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bmf725 said:
Did you figure in all the time to trim 96 ounces? I mean it takes me a good 4-6 hours to properly trim up 8-10 ounces. So your talking 45+ hours just to trim all of that.
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nah, he isn't stating facts to support a theroy he has decided he is right and trying to find fact-like things to post to make him seem right to us.
 
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hic

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STOP!! You are all getting off track.

Forget the money forget the plants forget the fact that as we speak many of you are destroying the image of medical marijuana. I want nothing more then to rent a bulldozer and start all over. What I see is many individuals claiming to be a gift from God to mankind cause he can sprout a seed and grow a bud. Ding Ding Ding a retard could grow marijuana if taught so there is that.

What we have is the illusion that people have put upon themselves that because that have this unworldly power to create a bud that they will bless the world and become the greatest grower known in history. They grow for themselves not for this thing called a patient. They feed on them like leeches.

For if the man were to know the truth he would see that he has become what he hated as a child. Truth be known that the tides are shifted so greatley is because many of the real Caregivers in Michigan are not busy in the marijuana scene they are busy helping people and know little of this marijuana escapade.

It is a losing battle my friends for this is the devils playground. We can bitch about how discusting it looks. We can try to grow a forest of marijuana but nothing will come of it except you getting into trouble.

Those who give care are too busy. I estimate that only approx 10% of the marijuana caregivers are caregivers.

There are few options... We as real caregivers will need one hell of a front to push back the works and ideas of the dealers. You would need one heck of a shine to pierce the media and governments and until........ bla bla bla

I have said enough.
 
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tomcatjones

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bob harris said:
Costs are not that much after the initial equipment purchase....and the felony drug charge is moot. The care giver chose to take on that responsibility..he wasn't forced.

what's it cost to set up a 72 plant grow? 10-15 thousand? after that, it's basically electricity and minimal supplies. operating costs may reach 3 grand a month..including amortization of the original equipment....tale 6k off that 19k every two months, and thats around $80,000 per year in gross profits. and that's at only 200 per oz...bump it up to 250 an oz..and your back to 6 figures per year..for tending 72 plants....an executive wage for a part time gardeners work.
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wow... you obviously know nothing of REAL caregiviers.

no one i know had 10-15,000 to spend on a grow.

MICHIGANDERS ARE POOR. ... i'm one of them, that is why the learning process and set up has taken quite a while.

your equations and scenarios are a farce.


and just like LEO


"affiant knows from training that a marijuana plant can produce up to 1 pound of dried material"

-if they cops come to my place.. they'll be severally disappointed.

plus bob.. you don't figure in for the people who grow for quality and not quantity. i scrapped all chemical lines because i'd rather grow organic and my yields took a hit for that.
 
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tomcatjones

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tomcatjones said:
wow... you obviously know nothing of REAL caregiviers.

no one i know had 10-15,000 to spend on a grow.

MICHIGANDERS ARE POOR. ... i'm one of them, that is why the learning process and set up has taken quite a while.

your equations and scenarios are a farce.


and just like LEO


"affiant knows from training that a marijuana plant can produce up to 1 pound of dried material"

-if they cops come to my place.. they'll be severally disappointed.

plus bob.. you don't figure in for the people who grow for quality and not quantity. i scrapped all chemical lines because i'd rather grow organic and my yields took a hit for that.
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if i could produce ounces upon ounces.. most would be given away for RSO
 
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hic

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I will help you. If you are serious.

More patients need to learn the ability to grow the plant. Thats a fact and that is another way to peel off leeches...learning of salt.
 
fattiemcnuggins

fattiemcnuggins

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I am all for charity and giving away what you don't need. it is people like bob with their outrageous #s irritate me though. I already proved him wrong by his own math and he can't refute it lol.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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hic said:
STOP!! You are all getting off track.

Forget the money forget the plants forget the fact that as we speak many of you are destroying the image of medical marijuana. I want nothing more then to rent a bulldozer and start all over. What I see is many individuals claiming to be a gift from God to mankind cause he can sprout a seed and grow a bud. Ding Ding Ding a retard could grow marijuana if taught so there is that.

What we have is the illusion that people have put upon themselves that because that have this unworldly power to create a bud that they will bless the world and become the greatest grower known in history. They grow for themselves not for this thing called a patient. They feed on them like leeches.

For if the man were to know the truth he would see that he has become what he hated as a child. Truth be known that the tides are shifted so greatley is because many of the real Caregivers in Michigan are not busy in the marijuana scene they are busy helping people and know little of this marijuana escapade.

It is a losing battle my friends for this is the devils playground. We can bitch about how discusting it looks. We can try to grow a forest of marijuana but nothing will come of it except you getting into trouble.

Those who give care are too busy. I estimate that only approx 10% of the marijuana caregivers are caregivers.

There are few options... We as real caregivers will need one hell of a front to push back the works and ideas of the dealers. You would need one heck of a shine to pierce the media and governments and until........ bla bla bla

I have said enough.
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you are the retard. you HAVE said enough. This shit is so fucking stupid. a guy produces a product. he sells his product. not any other substance on earth will you find this bullshit about give it to me cuz your calling yourself a care giver. seriously walk off a cliff. All you smart fucks with all this love and m oney that can only give it away to a lucky 5 due to the law-break the fucking law and give it away to everyone. grow ass loads and give it away. fill the fucking forest with weed and give it away. Do all that shit, no body is stoping you. do it, ruin the market for us leeches if you're so fucking great I welcome it. do bitch, you've said and talked and whined and bitched just fucking DO you pussy! No time left for anything for you bleeding hearts to do anythign but grow free meds for criples............and bitch on the interweb of course.
 
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hic

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Bring it bitch. Sorry you were born into this world but that is your moms fault so slap that bitch not me.
 
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hic

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cory you sound like you are confused. You were not asked to be a caregiver were you? you forced it upon yourself I take it as you are another gift from god to the sick correct.
 
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bob harris

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hic said:
STOP!! You are all getting off track.

Forget the money forget the plants forget the fact that as we speak many of you are destroying the image of medical marijuana. I want nothing more then to rent a bulldozer and start all over. What I see is many individuals claiming to be a gift from God to mankind cause he can sprout a seed and grow a bud. Ding Ding Ding a retard could grow marijuana if taught so there is that.

What we have is the illusion that people have put upon themselves that because that have this unworldly power to create a bud that they will bless the world and become the greatest grower known in history. They grow for themselves not for this thing called a patient. They feed on them like leeches.

For if the man were to know the truth he would see that he has become what he hated as a child. Truth be known that the tides are shifted so greatley is because many of the real Caregivers in Michigan are not busy in the marijuana scene they are busy helping people and know little of this marijuana escapade.

It is a losing battle my friends for this is the devils playground. We can bitch about how discusting it looks. We can try to grow a forest of marijuana but nothing will come of it except you getting into trouble.

Those who give care are too busy. I estimate that only approx 10% of the marijuana caregivers are caregivers.

There are few options... We as real caregivers will need one hell of a front to push back the works and ideas of the dealers. You would need one heck of a shine to pierce the media and governments and until........ bla bla bla

I have said enough.
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I agree..the true caregivers are far and few between. I'd accept that 10% number as pretty close.

The point is, regardless of how you want to do the math, the people growing for profits are killing the people growing for medicine.
 
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