Casualties of War...

VTXDave

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Isn't it interesting how circumstances can quite literally change a person.

I'll be the first to admit that my first response to the WTC collapse was "We need to nuke those fuckers back to the Stone Age!". But my curiosity got the better of me and I began asking the question..."Why did they do it?". You see, as much as I would've liked to have held onto the dogmatic mantra of "They hate us for our freedoms.", something in the back of my mind was left unfulfilled with that answer...and so began my quest. My journey changed my views profoundly.

I feel that it's important to always ask...."Why?". As children, that is how we discovered the world and gained insight as to "how" our environment works, yes? For many, they seem to stop asking the question as they grow older. I wonder "why" that is.

I am not the same person I was 10 years ago (seeing how we're on the cusp of the 10 year anniversary of the WTC collapse). My quest sent me searching documents, buying/reading books on our dark history as a nation. The history we learn in school of course is "filtered" information. What I found wasn't pretty. I came to loathe my government with a passion. I came to "understand" how men like Che Guevara are created by their governments...All because I asked "Why did they do it?"

Today I abhor the idea of preemptive war (Bush Doctrine).

Now...about 1.5 years ago I reestablished contact with my old high school girlfriend via FB. She's married and has a good life. Her first born son entered the Marines last year, went through Boot Camp, shipped off to Afghanistan, and was promptly killed by an IED.

This war changed her life too. She now immerses herself in her Marine "family". She now fully believes that we need to kill those bastards over there no matter what. She believes that her son died for our freedom over here. She hates Muslims.

I haven't the heart to ask her the question "Don't you think your son died for nothing? Because some politicians want to Empire build? What about the copper mine over there that we're protecting with our soldiers so that the Chinese can extract the ore?" I can't ask her to ask herself "why" did her son have to die. I wish I could as I see her as another "casualty of war". Her pain over the loss of her son is so overwhelming that she is full of rage and hatred for "those people". I can understand that rage and pain. I've been there.

I hope one day she will ask "why" and begin seeking answers.
 

Radiate

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I often feel like the battered minds of our soldiers are one of the prime weapons being used against us in the never-ending stream of propaganda we're subject to. No one wants to ask questions like you described to a soldier because it's automatically seen as anti-American and intensely disrespectful, yet at the same time I've witnessed far too many of our armed forces being outwardly proud of the killing they've done in the name of "freedom". I can never bring myself to ask these individuals "what freedom?", as the usual answer is something along the lines of "you wouldn't understand, you weren't there".


Before any of our armed forces members get upset or offended, let me make something abundantly clear: the depth of my respect for the soldiers of this country is bottomless. It just drives me insane to watch spineless politicians brainwash our strongest backs, sharpest minds, and truest hearts and send them off to needlessly die for their personal gain.
 

VTXDave

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I served in the US Army in the late 70's/early 80's and my son just got out of the US Navy last year after serving 6 years.
 

hazyintentions

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I served in the US Army in the late 70's/early 80's and my son just got out of the US Navy last year after serving 6 years.
Thank you for your service, I am sad to say the country you fought for no longer exists and is now a puppet government that makes it ok to violate the US Constitution.
I'm glad your son came home unharmed (physically) as well.

American needs more people like you who asked questions and saw the real world for it's ugly self.
 

Radiate

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I served in the US Army in the late 70's/early 80's and my son just got out of the US Navy last year after serving 6 years.

After your decade-long quest for knowledge, how has your findings changed your perception of the time you spent serving? Does it differ from how you felt at the time?
 

VTXDave

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After your decade-long quest for knowledge, how has your findings changed your perception of the time you spent serving? Does it differ from how you felt at the time?
I've often thought about this very thing, and have even discussed it with my wife. Despite the fact that it was a very different world then (Cold War w/ the Soviet Union), knowing what I know now, I would not have served. I am not "anti-war"...I am "anti-preemptive war".
 
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