THC breaks down into CBN, trying to revive your memory!
CBD Oil
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mrCRC420
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Nice Thread...
1) You can buy CBD oil online, it's CBD derived from Hemp - I don't know how well it works.
2) You can pay a professional to extract high CBD bud w/ butane and render Honey Oil; which is super potent.
3) You might want to try smoking and medibles before Oil. If your brother has lower MJ tolerance, the cannabis flower should do wonders as is.
4) Alcohol Extraction - Get Grain Alcohol/Everclear, submerge ground up dried cannabis of your choice, steep in the dark for 2+ weeks, shake daily, strain; use with caution as your tincture has both high alcohol and cannabinoid levels.
Peace.
1) You can buy CBD oil online, it's CBD derived from Hemp - I don't know how well it works.
2) You can pay a professional to extract high CBD bud w/ butane and render Honey Oil; which is super potent.
3) You might want to try smoking and medibles before Oil. If your brother has lower MJ tolerance, the cannabis flower should do wonders as is.
4) Alcohol Extraction - Get Grain Alcohol/Everclear, submerge ground up dried cannabis of your choice, steep in the dark for 2+ weeks, shake daily, strain; use with caution as your tincture has both high alcohol and cannabinoid levels.
Peace.
FrozenChozen
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BAD IDEA!!!!!!
Do not soak for 2+ weeks! there is no reason for it! Especially if the person who is receiving the medication has alcohol intolerance, or if the medication is going to a child...
As alcohol is a POLAR solvent that is soluble in water, long washes remove plant waxes, chlorophyll, plant alkaloids, and even unwanted plant oils.
get your hands on some HIGH proof (150+) grain alcohol, ethanol, or methanol (by product of making moon shine) and do a quick wash... Much better quality and faster results....
Check out Skunkpharms, they SPECIALIZE in things like training people on the ins and outs of extraction:
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/qwet-extraction/
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/qwiso/
then check out the Erowid archives:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info13.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml
mrCRC420
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Naaah, i say soak dat shit. If you're gonna smoke it you might as well get as much out of the weed as you can. 190 Proof Grain alcohol is 95% alcohol by volume and longer soaks definitely produce a more potent tincture. Your way might be better, I dunno; but my way works too haha. Also, I wouldn't give an alcohol tincture to a child; you'd make a tincture from vegetable glycerin instead.
Bricksquad2625
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I'm considering doing the alcohol extract for someone else with a skin condition called Hidradenitis suppurativa. I was going to soak an entire plant, I was going to extract the entire plant, I've read alot about the Entourage Effect. I was then going to use a double boiler and burn off the alcohol and then I was going to make a custom shea butter with some essential oils and add the CBD extract.
Now to my question, I've been doing a lot of research, just trying to figure out the absorption rate of alcohol, how long do you recommend to soak and why? I really want to know this
Bricksquad2625
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My brother has put this project on hold for him at the moment, he has to give urine for his job and wants to be a little more financial stable before he can venture down this path, we are not in a mmj state. So I focusing all of my energy and efforts on my second patient, she has the skin disorder HS, i'm trying to make a CBD lotion, I'm not saying its going to be a cure, I have read that others have experienced success using CBD's to treat inflammation and other disorders, HS is practically inverted acne and has alot of inflammation. I have ordered a pack of CBD Lavender Seeds, I chose to go with the autos solely based upon time, I don't want to kill 4 months or more on something that might be effective or not. I am open to any suggestions, as I am always willing to learn.
Bricksquad2625
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I would like to know why 2+ weeks? I'm not being a smart ass, I just want to hear the logic behind it, I'm new to the tincture game
Bricksquad2625
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How long do you let it soak? Time wise?
FrozenChozen
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google rick simpson oil or phoenix tears dumbass! Its alcohol extract that's given to kids, if its done right there's no intoxicating effect from the alcohol!
mrCRC420
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Nah.... FrozenChozen, that's not what I'm talking about; my tincture is infused ALCOHOL, not the remaining evaporated residue (it's not an oil). Shhh, off with you - moving on.
Bricksquad - I soak mine for about two weeks! That's not good enough for Frozen (he says soak it for a full year, what a a-hole) but my shit is always a really nice euphoric lift. I pour a pretty small amount of the finished product into a tea/coffee/liquid. Lasts 2-4 hours; not too intense. I use strains that benefit me. Blueberries for pain, Diesels for my brain. Of course, don't discredit Frozen's suggestions - RS Oil and Phoenix tears are cool but I make my tincture in a cubbard and only have to shake it once a day; so fucking easy; so fucking good.
** I soak it that long because at one week, the tincture is not as potent as it is at two weeks. And the internet says to soak it for longer periods of time than that. The alcohol content is too high for mold to grow so I try to let the alcohol absorb all that it can. There's good shit all throughout the plant; we used to throw out leaves for example; crazy right; so I love to get all I can from absorption. -- Also, I've been making just cannaoil (for cooking) and mixing it with various burts bees products, like lotion and chapstick; the products give off a nice smell and you've got cannabinoid receptors all over your body so I would think it's pretty good for you. I wouldn't rub alcohol on my skin very often as it will dry it out; but one would assume that medication within alcohol penetrates the skin deeper than vegetable oil. Last... don't be scared of THC strains, cbd gets a lot of hype but many disorders are better treated by THC, don't be scared to experiment with simpler solutions b/c they may be the simple answer you were looking for; cannabis is kinda like that; doesn't Need to be complex.
Best of luck
I'll check back later
Bricksquad - I soak mine for about two weeks! That's not good enough for Frozen (he says soak it for a full year, what a a-hole) but my shit is always a really nice euphoric lift. I pour a pretty small amount of the finished product into a tea/coffee/liquid. Lasts 2-4 hours; not too intense. I use strains that benefit me. Blueberries for pain, Diesels for my brain. Of course, don't discredit Frozen's suggestions - RS Oil and Phoenix tears are cool but I make my tincture in a cubbard and only have to shake it once a day; so fucking easy; so fucking good.
** I soak it that long because at one week, the tincture is not as potent as it is at two weeks. And the internet says to soak it for longer periods of time than that. The alcohol content is too high for mold to grow so I try to let the alcohol absorb all that it can. There's good shit all throughout the plant; we used to throw out leaves for example; crazy right; so I love to get all I can from absorption. -- Also, I've been making just cannaoil (for cooking) and mixing it with various burts bees products, like lotion and chapstick; the products give off a nice smell and you've got cannabinoid receptors all over your body so I would think it's pretty good for you. I wouldn't rub alcohol on my skin very often as it will dry it out; but one would assume that medication within alcohol penetrates the skin deeper than vegetable oil. Last... don't be scared of THC strains, cbd gets a lot of hype but many disorders are better treated by THC, don't be scared to experiment with simpler solutions b/c they may be the simple answer you were looking for; cannabis is kinda like that; doesn't Need to be complex.
Best of luck
I'll check back later
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KineBoisin420
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Check out cannabisinternational.org for information from Dr. W. Courtney on CBD and specifically, juicing CBD-rich raw cannabis. I've used his treatment as part of an overall plan to help me bring a debilitating inflammation-based auto-immune disease into remission, after a decade of it ruling my life.
I've also used CBD-rich canna-capsules, using coconut oil to exract the cannabinoids. I've made tinctures too, but found the alcohol strong, compared to the coconut oil-extracted capsules.
I was on a ton of pharmas to try and cover my symptoms, but nothing ever worked to the degree that a CBD-rich cannabis treatment program did. I'm now entering my 3rd straight year of no pills...being 100% med-free, and having basically full control over my disease.
For CBD-rich strains, you can also check out CBD-Crew, which is a breeding collaboration between Mr. Nice's Shantibaba, and Resin Seeds' Jaime (maker of cannatonic). They have a bunch of strain offerings that are all CBD-rich.
I've grown and pheno hunted Cannatonic, and Z7 strains, and both strains are excellent specimens. Z7 is a regular in my garden, and is my go-to CBD-rich strain. Now that I've beaten back the disease, I only use my vaporizer, in "maintenance doses".
Project-CBD is a good resource for CBD information.
I've also used CBD-rich canna-capsules, using coconut oil to exract the cannabinoids. I've made tinctures too, but found the alcohol strong, compared to the coconut oil-extracted capsules.
I was on a ton of pharmas to try and cover my symptoms, but nothing ever worked to the degree that a CBD-rich cannabis treatment program did. I'm now entering my 3rd straight year of no pills...being 100% med-free, and having basically full control over my disease.
For CBD-rich strains, you can also check out CBD-Crew, which is a breeding collaboration between Mr. Nice's Shantibaba, and Resin Seeds' Jaime (maker of cannatonic). They have a bunch of strain offerings that are all CBD-rich.
I've grown and pheno hunted Cannatonic, and Z7 strains, and both strains are excellent specimens. Z7 is a regular in my garden, and is my go-to CBD-rich strain. Now that I've beaten back the disease, I only use my vaporizer, in "maintenance doses".
Project-CBD is a good resource for CBD information.
FrozenChozen
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not trying to be prying, but is it an eczema/psoriasis auto-immune disorder?
Both tinctures and RSO have their uses. sorry for coming off a bit too strong. don't only limit yourself to cbd and thc, their are other compounds that help other ailments as well.
KineBoisin420
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Psoriatic Arthritis.
I had Psoriasis starting when i hit 20, which progressed to the Arth side in my late 20's.
FrozenChozen
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I'm trying to treat my wife's eczema/psoriasis with a cbd salve... way better than pharmas....
GrowinDad
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IMO, RSO is the most versatile. I store it in syringes. It can be used topically, orally, put into edibles, or my favorite, mixed with PG and put into a vape tank. I find it far better than my previous tinctures and it is really easy to make.
I use 100% ethanol but everclear would work. I freeze my bud and the alcohol before extraction. I do two washes, each for a little over a minute.
There is lots of info on this stuff in the concentrates and extracts section of RIU.
I use 100% ethanol but everclear would work. I freeze my bud and the alcohol before extraction. I do two washes, each for a little over a minute.
There is lots of info on this stuff in the concentrates and extracts section of RIU.
DemonTrich
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I have a whole CBD plant im about to extract. was planning on doing a dry ice extraction, gathering up the pollen, then figuring out what im going to do with it. the flowers have been dried and cured, as well as the sugar leaves I trimmed and set aside.
Bricksquad2625
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So it looks like 2 weeks as a minimum? I'm assuming 3 or 4 weeks would be good as well? I'm making a custom shea butter lotion, mixing in some essential oils: lavendar, tea tree, chamomile. I like the idea of the alcohol acting as a disinfectant, as well as the tea tree oil. I'm going to run 2 auto and put them both into the lotion, using the leaves, stalk, and I'm even considering boiling the roots.Nah.... FrozenChozen, that's not what I'm talking about; my tincture is infused ALCOHOL, not the remaining evaporated residue (it's not an oil). Shhh, off with you - moving on.
Bricksquad - I soak mine for about two weeks! That's not good enough for Frozen (he says soak it for a full year, what a a-hole) but my shit is always a really nice euphoric lift. I pour a pretty small amount of the finished product into a tea/coffee/liquid. Lasts 2-4 hours; not too intense. I use strains that benefit me. Blueberries for pain, Diesels for my brain. Of course, don't discredit Frozen's suggestions - RS Oil and Phoenix tears are cool but I make my tincture in a cubbard and only have to shake it once a day; so fucking easy; so fucking good.
** I soak it that long because at one week, the tincture is not as potent as it is at two weeks. And the internet says to soak it for longer periods of time than that. The alcohol content is too high for mold to grow so I try to let the alcohol absorb all that it can. There's good shit all throughout the plant; we used to throw out leaves for example; crazy right; so I love to get all I can from absorption. -- Also, I've been making just cannaoil (for cooking) and mixing it with various burts bees products, like lotion and chapstick; the products give off a nice smell and you've got cannabinoid receptors all over your body so I would think it's pretty good for you. I wouldn't rub alcohol on my skin very often as it will dry it out; but one would assume that medication within alcohol penetrates the skin deeper than vegetable oil. Last... don't be scared of THC strains, cbd gets a lot of hype but many disorders are better treated by THC, don't be scared to experiment with simpler solutions b/c they may be the simple answer you were looking for; cannabis is kinda like that; doesn't Need to be complex.
Best of luck
Bricksquad2625
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would you guys say this is a accurate graph for decarbing?
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Bricksquad2625
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why salve over lotion? just curious, I was thinking about doing a beeswax salve instead of lotion
FrozenChozen
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its thicker and less greasy, works as a massage salve as well