Cheese #1 - Pure Exodus Genetics - Kaliman Seeds - Test/Seed Grow

hey i want to do a SOG method.. and ive heart cheese is very good for that, and i can tell by ur plants short and bushy, so is cheese another strain than cheese #1? i think i might get FEM seeds only.. as i intend to SOG and fast flower, would u recommend me to get reg cheese or cheese #1?? also very nice fem u got there, to bad u didnt get more clones now the wait will be longer but that stem seems fkin robustttt, how would say is the high of a cheese?? if u ever tried it. im currently growing ak47 and blueberry but i want to get some new seeds coz aint trusting much on my dutch passion blueberry... reading shit all over... and it seems to have more problems during seedling that i had with my ak47.

These are not really short and bushy if left to thier own devices like in a sog.
I topped them low with a 1-step FIM.
I got pictures of stem size from 3 days ago at 28 Days bloom cycle:



Had I not done that this is a 6 footer easy indoors.
At least this female specimine is.
The Male I selected was also poking it's head way out of box before I gave up on isolation in the intense heat wave.
It was like 95+ degrees around here for over a week, and I had to keep air going to not get too hot.

So I have been weaving a web with all sorts of LST technics:



I'm using steel 'candy cane' bolts, s-hooks, bungie cords, and twine to shape the plant where I want it to go.
At 31 days bloom of @ 70 day cycle I am still LSTing heavy.
Stretch is pretty much done finally, and buds are starting to pack on.



My bloom room is 5' x 4' with about 4' of useable height before I burn up in the HID lamp in center.
The cheese plant is covering most of it already.
The canopy is about 24" from top of medium to upper growth.

Seed developement looks real good so far: it definately got hit good with pollen.
So much new growth since last week though that there will plenty of good smoke as well when ripe.

lol yeah you have them tied every which way. nice stalk at the base.

Here's a couple more shots showing the LST:



Had to do a 180 on that one branch.
Second pic shows spacing of branches out far.
It's starting to look like a spider web.

Hopefully I am pretty much done with the LST work now.
I was able to sneak my Strawberry Diesel into the room by feeding Cheese through her.

I'm now at 35 Days bloom cycle and they are starting to put on some trichomes.
Seeds appear to be developing normal and some buds are packed with them.



The Fat Marty plant in the left rear I hit at same time did a lot more new growth so far than the Cheese.
But I did get some seed action going there as well.
It was only in bloom a week or ten days as opposed to 3 and half weeks for the Cheese when I pollinated.



Same image progressively closer above.
As you can see I also got plenty of new growth on Cheese since pollination.

My temps are running about 68 to 70 during lights out and 75 to 78 during lights on.
It goes up and down all day because I switch the side lighting at half hour intervals.
I made my own cloud cover to mimick nature; so the light intensity changes throughout the 'day'.
I am the Bullgod.

I'm around 45 days into bloom cycle and all looks and smells good so far.

Here is a shot from 40 days of the bloom:



The clones I took 3 or 4 weeks ago are ready to rock:



My experience with this for clones is they get preety pale but recover after a week or so.
My Fat Marty does the same thing to a lesser degree.

Speaking of FM; check this out at 33 days bloom:



I think there's a bit of cheese in FM; but no one knows what it is besides bad ass weed...
I hit that with the Cheese #1 male when I sprayed the female Cheese.
I'm pretty much growing Marty this go round to produce meds quick because I was behind on my stash.
Most of it will come down a piece at a time as I do what I've got to do.
But I definately will let some of it mature the seeds so I can see what happens there at a later date.

What a great grow journal, Fat Marty, respect!

Sorry about your male/female ratio, bummer, eh?

And very​ nice one on spreading the love dust about, heh heh.

I've uploaded a few mid flower Cheese#1 macro's, if that's ok?

Rockster said:

What a great grow journal, Fat Marty, respect!

Sorry about your male/female ratio, bummer, eh?

And very​ nice one on spreading the love dust about, heh heh.

I've uploaded a few mid flower Cheese#1 macro's, if that's ok?

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More than okay Rockster - Big Respect on the beans man.


I only got the one female out of the first round; but wow what a female I got.
It looked pretty raunchy after a lot of high heat and stress from other plants covering it up towards the end.
But everyone who has smoked it loves it: including me.
So I'm growing the clone out now seedless.

I just checked in here to update my journal as I was kinda putting it off because I had to sort out some decent pics from my cam.
The seeds are drying now - I thought the male I used was real nice and Hazeman says it and the female look alike still in veg.

Okay I will finish Journal entries for the seed project.

Sorry I've been derelict on updating this lately.

So at 50 days the buds are building tight; but I'm bumming a bit on yield worries.



Because I'm medical card I have plant number to follow and had invested a lot of real estate into Cheese #1 project.
I was getting lower than low on personal meds and starting to question my wisdom in putting so many eggs in one basket.

I had thought the massive stalk would put out more bud even though I seeded it pretty heavy.
As it turned out there was more than enough left even though I snipped a couple large branches off early.

The 'Cheese' smell started getting serious around 60 days.
Up until them you could get a nice whiff of flower mixed with the stink.
But tha skunk took over and all one can say is 'Yep - that's the Cheese".



53, 54, 54, and 56 days Bloom cycle above images.
It's getting heavy and the branches are trying to spread apart.
I used some mini bungee cords to hold it together for a few more days.

I'm ready to cut.
Those branches I took are tasty man.
But I got to wait for seeds to finish up.
Other plants are really taking over grow room.



66 days bloom in first image - 69 days in other three.
Help! I've fallen and I can't get it up.

At 69 days I pull her out of bloom room overnight, and then cut her down the next morning:



I trimmed what was left while it was hanging on a bungee cord from a hook in the ceiling.
It wasn't that much fun; but I was trying to leave seeds intact on stalks and it worked pretty good.

Last pic is some of the buds drying after clearing from the stalk.
Not the prettiest stuff I ever grew - that's for sure.
Hey no one said it was painless making seeds - this was well worth the effort and I feel fortunate to have had the chance.

The smoke from this is as good as any Cheese I have ever smoked.
It is better than the U.K. Cheese cut I grew a year or two ago a few times.
Really.
I was smoking some with the Purple Marty my friend sent me to sample, and I feel like they are peers.
That's a high compliment man. Purple Marty rocks too.

So I got more pictures of the clone before and into bloom for a few days at present;
I will sort through them and continue the journal so we can all see what I can get out of this bad grrl seedless.
Back to update more in a few days or so.

Top stuff Marty and I'm really pleased your friends liked it and many thanks for your very kind compliments.

I agree there are pheno's that don't have the best type of bud structure although the chemotype /resin profile is good and I'm going to be further working with Cheese#1 to dial out the freaky stuff, heh heh.

Rockster said:

Top stuff Marty and I'm really pleased your friends liked it and many thanks for your very kind compliments.

I agree there are pheno's that don't have the best type of bud structure although the chemotype /resin profile is good and I'm going to be further working with Cheese#1 to dial out the freaky stuff, heh heh.

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I will get you some of the F2's I have soon Rockster; I still need to sort those.

My clone is growing very well considering the limitations it has this time around.
Only a 4 gallon pot this bloom; but no pollination makes for a better look at super Cheese!

Here I am at 41 days bloom cycle with a decent bud shot progressively closer:



Cheese #1 takes about ten weeks first time; so I imagine it will take 9 or 10 from the clone.

uk cheese is amazing i only smoke it a few times but wow,,now i want more! are kalimans cheese just like the UK cut? and if not where did the UK cuts floating around in cali come from?

tobinates559 said:

uk cheese is amazing i only smoke it a few times but wow,,now i want more! are kalimans cheese just like the UK cut? and if not where did the UK cuts floating around in cali come from?

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i guess the seeds were from a uk cut that was seeded from an unknown source.

i have 2 packs of the cheese #1 and i have not tried them yet. also i have never tried the uk cut so i wouldnt be able to tell you if its the same or not.

smoke and coke said:

i guess the seeds were from a uk cut that was seeded from an unknown source.

i have 2 packs of the cheese #1 and i have not tried them yet. also i have never tried the uk cut so i wouldnt be able to tell you if its the same or not.

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Well, if you are talking about Cheese#1, no, it's not the Exodus pollinated by another strain but pure 100% unhybridised 1989 UK Exodus in a normal male/female population.

Sounds impossible doesn't it? A strain derived purely from one female clone, but it happened due to the spontaneous sexual reversal of 2 Exodus clones in a tray of 20 that when flipped to 12/12 grew out as perfect males and those males dusted the girls and all the progeny were cheese in chemotype / resin profile.

That's a pic of one of the she's that became he's and I don't mean hermies but 100% males.

Here's a male that I'm using in a cross with a cut of a strain that has an extremely exotic terpene profile. Folks who have tried it have mentioned that it may be a long lost AK-47 cherry pheno. I don't know, but I'm hoping this makes a nice cross. I have grown the Kaliman Cheese #1 for three years in a row now without any hermie issues. Very stable strain in my experience. I've got some growing OD in holes in the ground right now that are amazing looking. Purplish silver in color and massive. I'll post some pics of these in a couple of days.

i grew out 2 of the cheese #1 and had 1 male and 1 female. the male is gone and i grew out the female. it was an ok plant and was def. a cheese. the 2 clones i have of her, 1 in veg. and the other in flower and going to hit it with a jilly bean male. i may not have been impressed with this one but i will try it again for sure. the smoke is very good, i just did not like the way this one grew.

i grew out 1 of the rockster's cheese and it was a much better yielder so i am running 2 clones of her in flower.

smoke and coke said:

i grew out 2 of the cheese #1 and had 1 male and 1 female. the male is gone and i grew out the female. it was an ok plant and was def. a cheese. the 2 clones i have of her, 1 in veg. and the other in flower and going to hit it with a jilly bean male. i may not have been impressed with this one but i will try it again for sure. the smoke is very good, i just did not like the way this one grew.

i grew out 1 of the rockster's cheese and it was a much better yielder so i am running 2 clones of her in flower.

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All of the phenos I've grown of the Kaliman #1 have been sativa dominant. They take about 10 weeks in flower to finish. I've never had the indica dom pheno pop up. I'm OK with that actually. The sativa dominant strain I have here has a terpene profile that really reminds me of a strain I used to find down on the coast of Oaxaca back in the early 70's before the area around Zipolite and Puerto Angel became an international tourist destination. The female cut I'm crossing it with also has some terpene that reminds me of that same strain. It was one of the most exotic smelling strains I've ever run across and one of the best "happy weed" highs. Very special stuff and I have never seen it in the US. I'm hoping to get something close to that by crossing these two, but we'll see.

Here are two Kaliman Cheese #1 females in flower at around 7000' altitude (the shovel is in the ground between the two). From the base of the stalk to the top they are both about 4-5 feet tall and about 5-6 feet in width. The soil was heavily amended- something along the lines of the Tom Hill mix but adjusted somewhat due to our incorporating native soil as well. It took them a while to adjust. This stalled them out for a couple of weeks. Perhaps an indica dominant pheno would be a heavier feeder but I've been very happy with the sativa dominant phenos I've grown. Just excellent, high quality bud and if my past experience with running these in 50 gallon containers is any yardstick, these may each yield around a kilo if the weather permits a harvest around mid October.

i used a 3 gal. container and only veg. for about 4 weeks so it was much smaller. i love the taste and smell of the cheese #1 but this particular one i still have in veg. probly wont get flowered out this year so i will have to toss it. i agree it needs 10 weeks or close to it and i only let it go 8 1/2 weeks.

the rockster's cheese tastes and smells close to the #1 and i only let that go 8 1/2 weeks but it def. should have went 10 weeks. i am running out of time for this year and my next flowering round can only go 9 weeks max. i may have to toss out the cheese#1 and the rockster's cheese that i have in veg.