Chem induced males.

Lord Green Thumbs

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hi does anyone know if its only reg plants, or is it possible to do it with auto flowers. Can u spray to make males with the chems i ve been hearing about? not quiet sure what there called im trying to find out no one video tells all ingredients. if someone could help and or let me know a link to find the chems for this plz let me know ty
 

Pyewacket

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You can do it with Autos no problem. I made my silver colloidal solution a few weeks back and my Big Bud X Norther Lights auto is showing her balls:
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Plenty of guides out there. Here is how I make silver colloidal solution.

Two silver coins .999pure silver only. I am cheap and purchased small 3gram coins(8bucks for both on ebay); bigger coins would be better since you do NOT want the alligator clamps touching the liquid.
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Clamp on the coins and submerge in water (again, don't let metal clamps touch water...just the silver coins)--I have a second set of clamps so that I can position the coins away from the sides. With such small coins, I would make no more than 16oz-24oz of solution at a time. This picture shows the coins in place...I would bend them/move them a bit more toward the center of the pitcher.

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This silver colloidal generator is powered by the power-supply from an old laptop -- I purchased it from good will.

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The above shows the approx DC output you are aiming for (DC9Volt 600ma-2amp)...some folks just us a 9volt battery -- I prefer the power-supply for stable/consistent output. Also, 9volts can cost as much as this used power-supply cost:

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I use a small fish-tank air pump to mix the solution; this is probably not necessary. The above picture is the complete generator with the good-will power supply attached to alligator clips glued to the inside of the pitcher. The secondary alligator clips are soldered to lengths of silver solder to extend the coins where I want them. I have the coins in roughly the position you want them in (again, move them more toward center of pitcher than what you see in the photo) -- inch or two apart.

Fill with distilled water up to the top of the coins. Since the coins are small, I run this 24 hours. You will noticed some pitting as the silver is driven into solution...and some corrosion will float around as well. My solution turns a light amber color...I wouldn't worry much about the color -- If you run the above current through the silver in solution...it works.

Bottle up the silver colloidal solution and spray your plant 2-3 times a day. Do this just as you begin to see preflowers -- Start spraying 3+ish weeks into your grow. Monitor you plant carefully...back off the spray if you are stressing her out too much. When you see balls...stop spraying at let them fill up with pollen.

Store the colloidal silver in a dark place...have fun.
 

Lord Green Thumbs

New Member
there inst an easier way an a cheap way to do this? im new an wanna learn is y im asking i use to be a mad grower but old school grower an this new species of seeds is new to me. so i ask again is there an easy easy way with out electrocuting myself that i can make this plant male? or a place to find out how? im still looking but cant find an easy solution
 

Pyewacket

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Tiresias Mist -- search this product. I hear it works fine. The above cost me like $15. Not sure how you would electrocute yourself...it is DC power after all. Tiresias spray will cost you at least that...and you get a very small amount. Enough to do a branch. It is easier though, and I hear people have good success with it.

Gibberellic(sp) acid might be another idea...though I wouldn't use it myself.
 

desertdog

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I watched one guy make 500 ppm in about two hours using five or six batteries, but a 12 volt dc adapter is cheaper. He also sprayed them two weeks before flowering them. Does this help? or is it unnecessary? I have .999 silver wire and am using a mason jar with plastic cover so I should see around 300 ppm or higher at 24 hours. When I used hermies all of my fem strains that resulted were stronger and snow bombed. The difference was amazing, and the yield was better.
 

Pyewacket

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Six batteries would be expensive. Depending on how the batteries were wired, you could get a large amount of volts...too much. Most people recommend that you stick with 9Volt as this tends to make the proper size silver particles in solution. I like the DC adapter because it puts out constant power...whereas, battery output would diminish over time.


I just finished harvesting my plant. It was full of balls and produced more pollen than I can use. -- I collected the pollen 4 times and froze 3 harvests using:
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You can get the kit at walmart for like 4bucks. Fluffed out a bunch of Qtips and imbibed them with pollen each harvest. Put them in the bags and sucked out the air. Stuffed these into a mason jar half full of rice...I hope it works.
 

OzGrower87

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Six batteries would be expensive. Depending on how the batteries were wired, you could get a large amount of volts...too much. Most people recommend that you stick with 9Volt as this tends to make the proper size silver particles in solution. I like the DC adapter because it puts out constant power...whereas, battery output would diminish over time.


I just finished harvesting my plant. It was full of balls and produced more pollen than I can use. -- I collected the pollen 4 times and froze 3 harvests using:
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You can get the kit at walmart for like 4bucks. Fluffed out a bunch of Qtips and imbibed them with pollen each harvest. Put them in the bags and sucked out the air. Stuffed these into a mason jar half full of rice...I hope it works.
That's the correct way to store pollen. But the condensation from thawing the pollen may make it not viable. You need to freeze the pollen, then thaw it in the fridge, then slowly introduce it into room temperature when using the pollen again.
 

Pyewacket

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That's the correct way to store pollen. But the condensation from thawing the pollen may make it not viable. You need to freeze the pollen, then thaw it in the fridge, then slowly introduce it into room temperature when using the pollen again.
Sounds smart...I was worried about the condensations, so I will definitely do it this way. Thanks.
 

Pyewacket

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Hey Ozgrower87, another thank you for your tip. I pulled out the frozen pollen a couple days ago...placed it in the refrigerator for several hours...took it out of the fridge and wrapped it with a kitchen towel...let it warm up for a couple of hours slowly. Took the Qtips and flicked the pollen on my LR2...the pollen puffed out dramatically as if it was fresh. Flicked it all over the plant. I am a bit allergic to the pollen...my ears get plugged every time I mess with it.

Here is the LR2 two days after the pollination. The pistols that have been pollinated have turned brown. It is hard to see from the photo, but it looks like I will get a TON of seeds. Low Ryder 2 X Northern lights X Big Bud fem autos.
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Before I froze the pollen...I pollinated directly two plants:
pollinated another NLXBB auto for a bunch of seeds...
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The second was a Pakistan Ryder auto. For some reason I only got several dozen seeds...and they are a bit on the white side. Looking close they appear healthy otherwise...I am a bit skeptical and will have to wait and see if they germinate.
Pakistan Ryder X Norther Lights X Big Bud fem auto:
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redzi

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I used a humidity/condensation chart that I found somewhere online to make sure that condensation didn't occur. Got temp to 70F with 13% humidity by using water crystals. The pollen worked at 45 days after storage but when I tried the same container of pollen second time around it didn't produce seeds. Flowers showed a reaction but no beans.
 

Pyewacket

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I have some of those crystals, I didn't think to use them. Pollen was as friable as it was when I harvested...I may have lucked out -- as I wasn't very scientific about things. The calyces appear to be swelling...but who knows.
 
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