Child killer goes to healing lodge.

How the hell could this happen? Looks like a tourist resort. McClintic and her husband tortured and killed a sweet innocent little girl, Tori Stafford, and now she’s on her way to a healing lodge, WTF!!! Healing lodge??? She should be either dead or perpetually tortured, not so called healed. The people (natives) that run the lodge don’t even want her.
“We have no say on inmate selection, but I believe if our elders were still a part of the process maybe Ms. McClintic wouldn’t be at the healing lodge,” Francis said in the statement. Only in Canada . Ruined my fucking day and safe to say I’ll rethink my vote going forward.

Kind of funny how humans decry the death of a child we don't know personally, yet are also oddly trained to ignore the deaths of other children when government declares them "collateral damage" eh ?

Would you be willing to be the person torturing the killer in the scenario you describe above? Just curious.

Rob Roy said:

Kind of funny how humans decry the death of a child we don't know personally, yet are also oddly trained to ignore the deaths of other children when government declares them "collateral damage" eh ?

Would you be willing to be the person torturing the killer in the scenario you describe above? Just curious.

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Nope I wouldn’t, I’d like be the one to put a bullet in her skank brain though. Convinced her to follow her home to see puppies as a present for her pedo husband. And I do decry the deaths of innocents and have mentioned the ongoing genocide of the rohingya many times. Do you ignore your governments actions abroad and at home? Are you out there protesting eh? And I don’t find it funny at all.

Budley Doright said:

Nope I wouldn’t, I’d like be the one to put a bullet in her skank brain though. Convinced her to follow her home to see puppies as a present for her pedo husband. And I do decry the deaths of innocents and have mentioned the ongoing genocide of the rohingya many times. Do you ignore your governments actions abroad and at home? Are you out there protesting eh? And I don’t find it funny at all.

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I don't have a government, in the sense that I willingly acknowledge any as owning me etc.

But to answer your question, if you meant am I opposed to the USA's empire building etc. ? Yes. I'm not responsible for that though, the people who participate in it are. I don't believe "just doing my job" is a valid excuse.

Protest government actions ? I prefer to say I'm more interested in revealing truths and proliferating ideas rather than protesting these days.
In the long run I'm not interested in reforming government. I'm more interested in peace and freedom.

I don't find assault and murder funny either, it's one of the reasons I don't willingly affiliate with any governments, since assault and murder are an integral part of how governments operate.

Do you think it’s wrong to put an end to the the skank and her pedo husband? Would you pull the trigger?

Budley Doright said:

Do you think it’s wrong to put an end to the the skank and her pedo husband? Would you pull the trigger?

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I think proportionality should be considered when addressing our grievances. For instance if a person were trying to kill me, (and I hadn't tried to kill them etc) I have a right to use deadly force to stop them. Not a comfortable circumstance, but I think I would use force to stop them.

If a person bumps into me on the street and it was clearly their fault, but they just called me a name or gave me a shitty look as if I were the douchebag but they kept on walking, I'd probably let it go, even though I might have a right to engage them. Not worth the trouble, even if I had a right to engage them. I'm not interested in proliferating assholish behavior in real life.


Pull the trigger on the killer ?
I would not pull the trigger in that instance, but I wouldn't stop the parents etc. from seeking their justice and I wouldn't care if the killer couple disappeared or had an "unfortunate accident" .

Budley Doright said:

Do you think it’s wrong to put an end to the the skank and her pedo husband? Would you pull the trigger?

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They should have been executed. Deplorable torturing murderous douche bags that they are. The odds of a child luring, torturing and murdering pair of thugs reforming in the big house is not good. Peds re offend. The sickness is curable with lead poisoning

Eat lead bitches.

it would surely be immoral to let them continue with that but then you have to lock them up and pay for them for forever pretty much. perhaps the punishment of them having to live with what they did is harsher than instant death, idk.

Budley Doright said:

Do you think it’s wrong to put an end to the the skank and her pedo husband? Would you pull the trigger?

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People with bad lawyers get wrongly convicted and sent to death row while people who are guilty but have good lawyers never get it. So capital punishment should be banned in principle. Otherwise, if we are going to keep it as a form of socialized revenge, absolutely, I'd put crimes of child molestation in the same bin as murder and hang the fuckers.

Fogdog said:

People with bad lawyers get wrongly convicted and sent to death row while people who are guilty but have good lawyers never get it. So capital punishment should be banned in principle. Otherwise, if we are going to keep it as a form of socialized revenge, absolutely, I'd put crimes of child molestation in the same bin as murder and hang the fuckers.

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Move them to the front of the line. Capital punishment works in that the likelihood of the offender re offending becomes zero. It is the only guaranteed method.

gwheels said:

Move them to the front of the line. Capital punishment works in that the likelihood of the offender re offending becomes zero. It is the only guaranteed method.

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A good case has yet to be made that proves whether or not capital punishment is much of a deterrent to murder so I prefer to call it revenge rather than justice. That said, why not? A life for a life, right? The only reason I oppose it is the injustice in our system applies the penalty unevenly and our system has been proven to be unreliable when it comes to convicting people correctly. So, until we fix the reliability issues where there are innocent people convicted and killed by the state and we apply the penalty unevenly then, no, the state should be limited to life in prison as the maximum penalty.

Budley Doright said:

How the hell could this happen? Looks like a tourist resort. McClintic and her husband tortured and killed a sweet innocent little girl, Tori Stafford, and now she’s on her way to a healing lodge, WTF!!! Healing lodge??? She should be either dead or perpetually tortured, not so called healed. The people (natives) that run the lodge don’t even want her.
“We have no say on inmate selection, but I believe if our elders were still a part of the process maybe Ms. McClintic wouldn’t be at the healing lodge,” Francis said in the statement. Only in Canada . Ruined my fucking day and safe to say I’ll rethink my vote going forward.

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Do you really think that this was a political action by the liberals in Canada to do this?

I don't know, man. After everything that's gone down in the States over the past decade, I'd be leery of this kind of story being used as propaganda. Politicians that use propaganda are worse than stupid bureaucrats who get things like this wrong and act like they had nothing to do with it. The decision can be reversed and probably should. It looks like somebody made a mistake. It shouldn't be that big a deal that it should take up time in Parliament. I saw some vids of outraged conservatives and it looked too much like our Republicans want to compel sanctuary cities to cooperate with Immigration Storm Troopers (ICE) by focusing on one heinous act as if liberals don't care. It was theater and posturing, IMO.

Fogdog said:

People with bad lawyers get wrongly convicted and sent to death row while people who are guilty but have good lawyers never get it. So capital punishment should be banned in principle. Otherwise, if we are going to keep it as a form of socialized revenge, absolutely, I'd put crimes of child molestation in the same bin as murder and hang the fuckers.

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I do get that for sure and putting someone to death is the ultimate punishment. In this instance they were 100% guilty, but yes your right it happens that people do spend years in prison wrongly convicted. Guess that’s one good reason we do not have capital punishment here. It’s something that I have differing thoughts about. It seems to happen less and less with the advancement of investigative tools but still happens.

Fogdog said:

Do you really think that this was a political action by the liberals in Canada to do this?

I don't know, man. After everything that's gone down in the States over the past decade, I'd be leery of this kind of story being used as propaganda. Politicians that use propaganda are worse than stupid bureaucrats who get things like this wrong and act like they had nothing to do with it. The decision can be reversed and probably should. It looks like somebody made a mistake. It shouldn't be that big a deal that it should take up time in Parliament. I saw some vids of outraged conservatives and it looked too much like our Republicans want to compel sanctuary cities to cooperate with Immigration Storm Troopers (ICE) by focusing on one heinous act as if liberals don't care. It was theater and posturing, IMO.

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No it wasn’t a political action that started the transfer but it could have been reversed when voted in the house which the liberals did not do. But seriously, a healing lodge for a child killer .... .

Fogdog said:

A good case has yet to be made that proves whether or not capital punishment is much of a deterrent to murder so I prefer to call it revenge rather than justice. That said, why not? A life for a life, right? The only reason I oppose it is the injustice in our system applies the penalty unevenly and our system has been proven to be unreliable when it comes to convicting people correctly. So, until we fix the reliability issues where there are innocent people convicted and killed by the state and we apply the penalty unevenly then, no, the state should be limited to life in prison as the maximum penalty.

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Totally true. But I’d still pull the trigger on her .

Budley Doright said:

Totally true. But I’d still pull the trigger on her .

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Just a few seconds alone in a room with them...


and a box cutter.

lungbutter said:

it would surely be immoral to let them continue with that but then you have to lock them up and pay for them for forever pretty much. perhaps the punishment of them having to live with what they did is harsher than instant death, idk.

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Not when you get sent to a healing lodge, pretty sure they just didn’t offer that option. Her and her lawyer found a loophole to get her out of PC. If she went to GP she’d at the very least get a boot to the head on a daily basis and most likely killed. So trying to gain leniency is not in my mind feeling real guilty about what she did. She’s a dog fucking (proven btw) scank.

Budley Doright said:

Not when you get sent to a healing lodge, pretty sure they just didn’t offer that option. Her and her lawyer found a loophole to get her out of PC. If she went to GP she’d at the very least get a boot to the head on a daily basis and most likely killed. So trying to gain leniency is not in my mind feeling real guilty about what she did. She’s a dog fucking (proven btw) scank.

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A bit off topic, but what do you have against dogs ?

Fogdog said:

A good case has yet to be made that proves whether or not capital punishment is much of a deterrent to murder so I prefer to call it revenge rather than justice. That said, why not? A life for a life, right? The only reason I oppose it is the injustice in our system applies the penalty unevenly and our system has been proven to be unreliable when it comes to convicting people correctly. So, until we fix the reliability issues where there are innocent people convicted and killed by the state and we apply the penalty unevenly then, no, the state should be limited to life in prison as the maximum penalty.

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The state's only job is as an advocate for its people. That's it. Not as an issuer of revenge. A person in prison is of no harm to the people at large if government is acting properly.

The only one who should act as an issuer of revenge is family or a spouse. Because I can understand their frustration.

Pigs working for the penal system who execute others are psychopaths who deserve death just as much if not more so.

The military and executioners only hide those who would naturally do that in private anyway. It's better they show their actions criminally as by the definition of law rather than have legal murders in society who lack empathy. They're part of the reason why society sucks, not racism or sexism or any other isms which are a symptom of the true cause.

Capitalism allows people to have a monentary value. People shouldn't have a value assigned to them. Capitalism puts such a value on people by paying people to kill.

Without capitalism there would be some who would kill just because but money and the status money gives are the main motivators. Also racism, sexism, etc would still exist because the disease of capitalism wouldn't take away the psychological damage right away for all.

But it would be a step in the right direction and we could then study the real motivations why everyone does the evils they do when there's no monentary reason behind the thoughts and actions.

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People with bad lawyers get wrongly convicted and sent to death row while people who are guilty but have good lawyers never get it. So capital punishment should be banned in principle. Otherwise, if we are going to keep it as a form of socialized revenge, absolutely, I'd put crimes of child molestation in the same bin as murder and hang the fuckers.

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That's a good point.

I'm not in favor of state executions either.