Christianity has been debunked once and for all

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4eftelover

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KAOSOWNER said:
Give us some solid evidence that jesus diddnt exist or even that he wasnt the son of God. I dont have to see to believe but i will need some evidence in the contrary to not
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on the contrary, give us some scientific evidence that he does exist....something that would stand up in a court of law as fact.

it works both ways
 
4eftelover

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hearmenow said:
I found the tirade hysterical. It was clearly written by someone who lacked clear understanding of how to write a treatise, which this is supposed to be. I found myself laughing out loud at the blatant distortions and flat out fabrications. I am a strong believer in freedom of thought and speech but if you are going to attack one of the main 3 religions, at least spend the time to do some quality research to support your assertions. Also, as I read on and on, he lost credibility with each sentence, with his use of superlatives and absolutes such as this gem "It's the Christians who go around trying to persecute everyone else all the time". And that was just the 3rd sentence in the tirade. LOL. I came away with the impression that this was written by someone with a highschool education at best.

This was a humorous read on a slow and boring Friday. Thanks for that, at least.
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are you saying that people who did not go to college lack intelligence.*question mark button not working

also, christians HAVE persecuted people about religion and faith and so on. when have you ever heard of religious persecution by athiests
 
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roscosera said:
no, he\s thinking for himself and not blindly believing stuff that was passed down from equally brainwashed people.
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Thanks Roscosera! (I'm Irish too:D)

Thats how I see it too. I'm not claiming to know all the answers, but I'm going to keep an open (objective) mind to all subjects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhbuFlpaIGY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMcl5eXGW8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ftF8sXzoWk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02WMNoHSm8&feature=related

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trishmybiscuits

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roscosera said:
the first bit of sense here. my parents took me and my siblings to mass when we were children, and raised us as christians. they did this even though they had decided decades earlier that they did not believe any of it. why did they do this. they did it because they believe that everybody should make their own mind up.
i made up my mind at the age of 15. the whole thing doesnt make sense. if i worship anything, its the wondor of nature. something which we can observe, document, and interact with.

i think that the title of this guys essay is unfortunate. but the main thrust of his argument is that if someone doesnt believe in christianity, dont force it down our throats. why are some people appearing to respond with a degree of anger to this essay. isnt jesus philosophy all about tolerance.

the only thing that prolonged my belief in god and religion was the thought that most of the world believes in it. how could the whole world be wrong.

i now know more about human nature and will sleep soundly tonight in the knowledge that when i die, i will not spend eternity on fire in hell.

religion has already torn humanity apart. it will eventually destroy us. i think that the non believers have the right to express our concerns that the world in which we live is a very dangerous one primarily because of human nature, and that people are being intimidated because of the blind belief of extremist muslim and christian factions.

paradoxically, those religious fanatics.... the most holy of the holy... are prepared to take the lives of others in the name of god. so if all their ranting and raving turns out to actually be true, it is all the extremists who will in fact go to hell, while us tolerant non believers who will be sipping cocktails in heaven
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Great observations, roscosera! I'm sure you realize that a lot of the people who have been trashing that article and me as well for posting a link to it are just disgruntled Christians.
 
4eftelover

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trishmybiscuits said:
Great observations, roscosera! I'm sure you realize that a lot of the people who have been trashing that article and me as well for posting a link to it are just disgruntled Christians.
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i stupidly started replying to really old posts. i got about 8 pages into the thread and remembered that it is a completely useless argument to have.
it is an interesting conversation to have with my best bud over a few spliffs.... he believes in god and i dont.
but having this conversation with starngers on the internet turns ugly pretty quick.
i still shake my head when i see the arguments put fourth by some people...ridiculous!!!
here is the big difference though.....

i dont believe in god... but if i saw some miricle take place... something like some of the shite in the bible....
...like if i saw some hairy guy making bread and fishes multiply and handing them out to the needy... i would change my mind.
i would love to believe that there is a higher force at work. someone who will look after me as long as i live a life of moral good.and if i ever get any tangible evidence to support it, i would believe.

but these believers will never concede or entertain the possibility that maybe there is an agenda for people to believe in god.
if some people can get rich off it, then there is a motive, no matter how noble the belief of the vast majority is.

but to be honest reading this thread pissed me off.

...and hey, we love 1... how are ya? what part of ireland are u from?
have you ever seen "the house of prayer" in mayo...????
..its basically this con woman up in mayo who has enriched herself by preying on the naeimhity of a lot of old people in that area. she has something like 3 big houses and a rake of luxury cars etc.

mother teresa... now there was a good person. no question about her motives cos she had nothing.

religion is evil imo
 
Angel B Smooth

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I Have not read all the post, But how did my thread go from prescription drugs to Christianity?????


Wether you agree with the systems or don't it doesn't matter, whatever control they wish to excert on anybody will soon meet oposition, revolutions have been happening for a very long time, just like climate change it is cyclical. Soon their will be a new order where at first people will love it, then they will be discontent then they will revolt. and so on and so on until singularity.


So anyway I saw a documentary that said if medical marijuana were legalized it might eliminate 80% of all presc. drugs.WOW!
 
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roscosera said:
...and hey, we love 1... how are ya? what part of ireland are u from?
have you ever seen "the house of prayer" in mayo...????

religion is evil imo
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Hey, I'm good! Thanks!

I wasn't born in Ireland, but I have some Irish fighting blook in Me! :D

I would love to visit some day. I just need to grow more Herb to save up My pennies! HAHA :lol:

I don't believe religion is evil, but some people (like the president) use religion as a tool for manipulation. If Bush was such a Christian, he would have more respect for human life! So candidly, some people shouldn't even consider theirselves Christians because they are just posers.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with believing in an afterlife. I believe Jesus is God and He is THE WAY to heaven!

JMHO

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jfgordon1 said:
? really...?.. i always thought u were being sarcastic when you said you were a believer lol
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No, I'm telling the truth. (At least I try to ;-))

I used to be very skeptical because I have a scientific mind, and thousand year old text wasn't very appealing to Me.

But, since I have been searching for God, I found Him! I actually saw Him in the clouds! It was the most amazing thing I have ever seen in My life!

Jesus is God!

God loves Us!

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jfgordon1

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We Love 1 said:
No, I'm telling the truth. (At least I try to ;-))

I used to be very skeptical because I have a scientific mind, and thousand year old text wasn't very appealing to Me.

But, since I have been searching for God, I found Him! I actually saw Him in the clouds! It was the most amazing thing I have ever seen in My life!

Jesus is God!

God loves Us!

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to each there own i suppose... as long as u dont look down upon us that dont belive :mrgreen:
 
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jfgordon1 said:
to each there own i suppose... as long as u dont look down upon us that dont belive :mrgreen:
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I just wish people would understand what I know. :D

Theres so much more to life! We have so much potential as a race to bloom. :mrgreen:

I just want everyone to be happy! Theres nothing wrong with that in My book :D

:peace:
 
herbie1020

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i can see how someone could be offended by this article. it hurts to have someone call you a liar and then prove it to your face. it hurts to know that you cant prove anything that you believe in. i for one, loved the rant and i could contribute pages and pages on this subject. KUDOS to the author. :fire:
 
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trishmybiscuits

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roscosera said:
here is the big difference though.....

i dont believe in god... but if i saw some miricle take place... something like some of the shite in the bible....
...like if i saw some hairy guy making bread and fishes multiply and handing them out to the needy... i would change my mind.
i would love to believe that there is a higher force at work. someone who will look after me as long as i live a life of moral good.and if i ever get any tangible evidence to support it, i would believe.

but these believers will never concede or entertain the possibility that maybe there is an agenda for people to believe in god.
if some people can get rich off it, then there is a motive, no matter how noble the belief of the vast majority is.
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This is my thinking as well. The only thing that will get me to believe in the Christian god is if the Christian god were to appear before my eyes in the here and now and in real time. And I know that that's never going to happen.
 
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