Clawing leaf tips help !!!

Hydro4life

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I do have an air stone in... since they’ve dried out an are on one feed a day now the seem a little better !!! Big learning curve for next time tho thanks bro
Hey Ajay, now youve hopefully sorted out the overwatering side of things...? Are you finding your leaves are very dark green and the very tips of the leaves are at a 90ish degree bend downwards??
 

Ajay86

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Hey Ajay, now youve hopefully sorted out the overwatering side of things...? Are you finding your leaves are very dark green and the very tips of the leaves are at a 90ish degree bend downwards??
Yeah bro exactly that an ones really dark been reading up a little on nitrogen defiency is that what you think it is ?
 

Hydro4life

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Yeah bro exactly that an ones really dark been reading up a little on nitrogen defiency is that what you think it is ?
Nitrogen TOXICITY
for sure man. No signs of nute burn on tips of leaves? If not then your nutrient strength is NOT too strong and would mean your plants are getting too much N (nitrogen) in their NPK ratio. Some plants/phenos are more sensetive to Nitrogen than others. When the plant stops growing new leaves and starts focusing its energy on bud development then you need to start reducing Nitrogen and start increasing P and K. (This is where people change from grow nutes to bloom nutes) If your Nitrogen ratio is too high throughout flower then bud development will suffer. Also be careful not to over do it with all the PK boosters as it will cause lockout of magnesium etc. A little goes a long way! If your in week 4 of flower, cut the Nitrogen back and let the plant use the excess nitrogen in the leaves. You will know you have rid the plant of excess nitrogen when the leaves become more of a mid green rather than a dark green. Plant will look happier too. I know this because i have gone through the exact same thing lol.
 

Ajay86

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Nitrogen TOXICITY
for sure man. No signs of nute burn on tips of leaves? If not then your nutrient strength is NOT too strong and would mean your plants are getting too much N (nitrogen) in their NPK ratio. Some plants/phenos are more sensetive to Nitrogen than others. When the plant stops growing new leaves and starts focusing its energy on bud development then you need to start reducing Nitrogen and start increasing P and K. (This is where people change from grow nutes to bloom nutes) If your Nitrogen ratio is too high throughout flower then bud development will suffer. Also be careful not to over do it with all the PK boosters as it will cause lockout of magnesium etc. A little goes a long way! If your in week 4 of flower, cut the Nitrogen back and let the plant use the excess nitrogen in the leaves. You will know you have rid the plant of excess nitrogen when the leaves become more of a mid green rather than a dark green. Plant will look happier too. I know this because i have gone through the exact same thing lol.
Ok I get it I’m filling my res today an your basically saying put less a+b in as the bloom booster am using has no nitrogen in it at all but yeah your right my buds are looking kinda small lol

What about canna boost what’s the npk ratio ?
 

Hydro4life

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Ok I get it I’m filling my res today an your basically saying put less a+b in as the bloom booster am using has no nitrogen in it at all but yeah your right my buds are looking kinda small lol

What about canna boost what’s the npk ratio ?
Still put A and B in but reduce the part that has alot of nitrogen. (I think its part A?) And just be careful not to add too much bloom booster. It should have the NPK ratios on the bottle.
 

Ajay86

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Ok I get it I’m filling my res today an your basically saying put less a+b in as the bloom booster am using has no nitrogen in it at all but yeah your right my buds are looking kinda small lol

What about canna boost what’s the npk ratio ?
Still put A and B in but reduce the part that has alot of nitrogen. (I think its part A?) And just be careful not to add too much bloom booster. It should have the NPK ratios on the bottle.[/QUOTE

It does an the npk of my bloom booster has no nitrogen at all in it ( 0-18-20 ) it’s just the a+b ( which is 16-6-26 )an canna boost. Not sure what the npk is on the canna boost I’ve tried to look on google but can’t seem to find it. Do you no the npk of cann boost accelerator ??
 

Hydro4life

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I used a PK 13/14 before, i think it was canna? Meaning NPK of 0,13,14. Not sure about canna boost accelerator? I use advanced nutrients big bud as my primary PK boost. I know the PK13/14 was VERY strong. As for your base nutes they should have the individual NPK ratios on each bottle that you have. One of them will be higher in N and calcium/magnesium. Reduce that one for a while.
 
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Ajay86

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I did I had about 4 1/2 scoops of powder a+b base foid but now reduced to just 2 scoops. But on my canna boost accelerator it doesn’t say the npk on the bottle.

Also what’s the difference in a pk, boost accelerator and bloom booster... I’m using accelerator+ bloom booster ?? Should I be using a pk or is a bloom booster ok I’m a little confused lol. Sorry to sound simple an thanks for the help bro ! it’s gonna help me loads Next time honestly, you defo needs hands on experience to get good results. I also took your advice on a feeding chart an had a good study of one, is there any line of food you suggest an a chart to go with it. It’s cool if I have to buy from scratch and is it best to stick to the same food line ???
 
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Hydro4life

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Basically what i can see is you have too much nitrogen stored in your leaves. So you need to reduce your nitrogen in your feed. One of those parts (a or b) will have a higher nitrogen ratio. Cut that one back to maybe half what you would usually feed and watch the colour of the leaves hopefully lighten a bit then the leaves should perk up a bit and plant will look healthier. As with the bloom boosters, they give an extra spike of pk to feed flowers for bud growth/development. Also containing amino acids etc. You dont have to use the same line of nutrients. You can mix and match. I personally would choose 1. This is what i use.
 

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Ajay86

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Oh ok ok I get it now an yeah I’ve halved my base feed am I’ve also noticed the bottom leaves are lighting a little. That’s since I started chatting to you lol. But yeah they do seem better to be honest !

Do you use the same line for veg ?
 

Hydro4life

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Oh ok ok I get it now an yeah I’ve halved my base feed am I’ve also noticed the bottom leaves are lighting a little. That’s since I started chatting to you lol. But yeah they do seem better to be honest !

Do you use the same line for veg ?
No thats what i was saying before, when you see white pistols starting to form, thats when you generally switch to BLOOM base nutes. As bloom nutes are lower in nitrogen. If you havent done this then thats probably where youve gonw wrong with the excess of nitrogen!?
 

Hydro4life

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Also keep a close eye on lower yellowing leaves that they dont work their way up the plant too fast. It either means you dont have enough nitrogen or you dont have enough light to the lower part of your plant. Judging by your earlier pics id say you just arent getting enough light penetration to bottom of plants.
 

Ajay86

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Ok ok an I did start putting bloom nutes in when I saw the pistols but I also carried on putting in the base food at the same dose if not more

Anyway I’ve lowered the base food now, an defo got my eye on them I’m just gonna use one line a stick to a feeding chart next time see what results I get surely be better lol

Practice is what I needed anyway just hope it’s not effected the end result to bad, I can already see it’s effected the size. But thank again anyway hydro4life
 

Hydro4life

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Ok ok an I did start putting bloom nutes in when I saw the pistols but I also carried on putting in the base food at the same dose if not more

Anyway I’ve lowered the base food now, an defo got my eye on them I’m just gonna use one line a stick to a feeding chart next time see what results I get surely be better lol

Practice is what I needed anyway just hope it’s not effected the end result to bad, I can already see it’s effected the size. But thank again anyway hydro4life
My advice is research and keep it simple. Every grow you will get better. Then youll start experimenting with new techniques. Some will work, some not so much. Before you know it youll be pretty confident and be smokin on quality bud that wont run out!! Good luck man. Happy 2 help!!
 

Ajay86

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Haha I like the sound of that an to be honest I enjoy it it’s not just for the smoke, but in a mad way it defo is hahaha

Yeah man am gonna take your advice an keep it simple much appreciated for the the time bro, an I’ll stay in touch an upload you a few pics on progress and sure I’ll have loads more to ask lol
 

Hydro4life

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Haha I like the sound of that an to be honest I enjoy it it’s not just for the smoke, but in a mad way it defo is hahaha

Yeah man am gonna take your advice an keep it simple much appreciated for the the time bro, an I’ll stay in touch an upload you a few pics on progress and sure I’ll have loads more to ask lol
Sounds good man!!
 

Mr Lizard

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Also keep a close eye on lower yellowing leaves that they dont work their way up the plant too fast. It either means you dont have enough nitrogen or you dont have enough light to the lower part of your plant. Judging by your earlier pics id say you just arent getting enough light penetration to bottom of plants.
Or if they are yellowing prematurely it could be amino acid. (Magnesium) I have found an easy fix for this is a $5 per kg at the local hardware. A tablespoon per 3 litres dissolved and also a large 2 litre spray for foliage feed fixes it nicely
 

jtrizzy

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No need to water once a day if you are in the right size pot for the plant. I always add perlite to my coco about 30%. I am in 5 gallon pots in flower and only water once a week.
 
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