Clone only strains

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RockStarGrower said:

I am In Fl. I am always 5 years behind everyone trying to find the stuff everyone else is growing. I get seed cross after seed cross of stuff I want to run and go thru pheno hunts and get frustrated becsuse I dont have the room I would love to have and its fun dont get me wrong, but when you see everyone with great buds and not a store in the state to get the goodies you would like, just plain sucks. Kind of like being the poor kid at Christmas feeling. But hey its a learning experience also. I cant complain to much.

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Make friends with someone that has glue and ask them to send you a cut

GNOME GROWN said:

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Make friends with someone that has glue and ask them to send you a cut

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. I just dont want to come off as a mooch to people I dont know, I am better at asking people if they want cuts. Lol. At least I am able to be in the position to make a decent trade thou. When looking for seed form its like a major speed bump After researching every seed breeder that says they have the real deal and reading all the fourms to find out thats not the case also and most breeders are trying to make cash off the name or they just did a cross of the plant and didnt stabilize it giving problems to the growers, guess its all part of the growing Journey/strain hunt

RockStarGrower said:

. I just dont want to come off as a mooch to people I dont know, I am better at asking people if they want cuts. Lol. At least I am able to be in the position to make a decent trade thou. When looking for seed form its like a major speed bump After researching every seed breeder that says they have the real deal and reading all the fourms to find out thats not the case also and most breeders are trying to make cash off the name or they just did a cross of the plant and didnt stabilize it giving problems to the growers, guess its all part of the growing Journey/strain hunt

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Dungeon vault genetics has feminized gg#4 . That is gonna bE the best you can get and honestly probably better than the clone only as that cut is wore out after being passed around for the past few years .

Stonironi said:

Dungeon vault genetics has feminized gg#4 . That is gonna bE the best you can get and honestly probably better than the clone only as that cut is wore out after being passed around for the past few years .

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My luck they are sold out. Did sound like the best out there like you said thou.

Some Madman Og and Alien Og I just grew, and got tested.

xmatox said:

Some Madman Og and Alien Og I just grew, and got tested.

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A lot of these testing facilities are on BS be careful . Not knocking your Meds ,they look great ,but there is a very low chance you are running 2 completely different strains at close to 29 % . That is extremely hard to accomplish and I'm seeing it everywhere now . I don't know, just my opinion.

Stonironi said:

A lot of these testing facilities are on BS be careful . Not knocking your Meds ,they look great ,but there is a very low chance you are running 2 completely different strains at close to 29 % . That is extremely hard to accomplish and I'm seeing it everywhere now . I don't know, just my opinion.

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I have been genetic hunting for over 3 years now. This isn't random.

Just courious how much it cost to get tested and if they double test or if its standard to get a separate company's test to confirm results?

RockStarGrower said:

Just courious how much it cost to get tested and if they double test or if its standard to get a separate company's test to confirm results?

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I pay $50 a test because I buy them in bulk. The lab I use triple test the results. Separate companies test would just cost me more money. The lab I am currently using we have gone through over 50 strains and they seem pretty accurate.

I need a connect for clone-onlys in Canada. Peace!!

xmatox said:

I have been genetic hunting for over 3 years now. This isn't random.

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I am sorry . I came off the wrong way . That is incredible you are killing it .

Stonironi said:

A lot of these testing facilities are on BS be careful . Not knocking your Meds ,they look great ,but there is a very low chance you are running 2 completely different strains at close to 29 % .

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xmatox said:

I have been genetic hunting for over 3 years now. This isn't random.

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Stonironi said:

I am sorry . I came off the wrong way . That is incredible you are killing it .

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I don't bother with the testing BS anymore. ~5 years back, just for shits and giggles, me and a buddy sent stuff out to see how just how bad the testing was. OG VS bunk bs strain. He had a friend of his send shit out through their shop, with "bs made up name" VS "bs made up cool/trending name". I sent the same shit out with "bad ass OG name" VS "unknown bunk name". Completely different results from the same strains, same plants, same cuts (buds from mid plant generally have higher THC due to optimal light VS light degradation). Results are not valid. If you ask me, the results are largely based on nomenclature and (to a lesser extent) presence.

Just for reference, the results for the bunk strain with a "trendy" name/bunk name (don't remember what we called it) came back at 28%/16% (respectively), the OG cut with OG name came back as 26.5% (with OG designation) and 17% (some bunk name). Results were similar between two labs (SC and another).

Edit- not that the numbers were the same, just that the "high/low/nomenclature" results were the same.

Shaggn said:

I need a connect for clone-onlys in Canada. Peace!!

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Find Ladybug man, that cat has every cut for the last 30 years I think

Odin* said:

I don't bother with the testing BS anymore. ~5 years back, just for shits and giggles, me and a buddy sent stuff out to see how just how bad the testing was. OG VS bunk bs strain. He had a friend of his send shit out through their shop, with "bs made up name" VS "bs made up cool/trending name". I sent the same shit out with "bad ass OG name" VS "unknown bunk name". Completely different results from the same strains, same plants, same cuts (buds from mid plant generally have higher THC due to optimal light VS light degradation). Results are not valid. If you ask me, the results are largely based on nomenclature and (to a lesser extent) presence.

Just for reference, the results for the bunk strain with a "trendy" name/bunk name (don't remember what we called it) came back at 28%/16% (respectively), the OG cut with OG name came back as 26.5% (with OG designation) and 17% (some bunk name). Results were similar between two labs (SC and another).

Edit- not that the numbers were the same, just that the "high/low/nomenclature" results were the same.

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I get strains tested for my delivery service,not just my grows. I too, have dealt with funky test scores and get irritated at times, but part of testing is knowing how they test. A large part of it is water content. If you try testing again, try letting your bud dry out just a little. Sc labs was pretty inconsistent, but the lab I have been using for a few months now seems to be giving me the same results (or damn near close) that others are getting on the same product.

All test hating aside, it's something you have to accept if you want to sell in a legal rec state.

xmatox said:

I get strains tested for my delivery service,not just my grows. I too, have dealt with funky test scores and get irritated at times, but part of testing is knowing how they test. A large part of it is water content. If you try testing again, try letting your bud dry out just a little. Sc labs was pretty inconsistent, but the lab I have been using for a few months now seems to be giving me the same results (or damn near close) that others are getting on the same product.

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Completely dried and cured and my buddy would let stuff get dried to the point of "brittle". I'm pretty savvy to testing procedures/variables, I worked for/executed testing at a medical lab for a little bit while in school. No room for error there, so maybe my standards are a little high. Current methods aren't accurate, THC alone means little without full terpene/cannabinoid details, and even then, our understanding of their relevance/interaction/relationship is in it's infancy, so we don't fully understand what those numbers are telling us. Testing is "fun", a novelty of sorts, I just don't feel that they are all that reliable.

Odin* said:

I don't bother with the testing BS anymore. ~5 years back, just for shits and giggles, me and a buddy sent stuff out to see how just how bad the testing was. OG VS bunk bs strain. He had a friend of his send shit out through their shop, with "bs made up name" VS "bs made up cool/trending name". I sent the same shit out with "bad ass OG name" VS "unknown bunk name". Completely different results from the same strains, same plants, same cuts (buds from mid plant generally have higher THC due to optimal light VS light degradation). Results are not valid. If you ask me, the results are largely based on nomenclature and (to a lesser extent) presence.

Just for reference, the results for the bunk strain with a "trendy" name/bunk name (don't remember what we called it) came back at 28%/16% (respectively), the OG cut with OG name came back as 26.5% (with OG designation) and 17% (some bunk name). Results were similar between two labs (SC and another).

Edit- not that the numbers were the same, just that the "high/low/nomenclature" results were the same.

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That is good. I have heard and seen the same story with different results but I am glad you are in a legit spot with good testing . Your stuff looks fire . Congrats

xmatox said:

I get strains tested for my delivery service,not just my grows. I too, have dealt with funky test scores and get irritated at times, but part of testing is knowing how they test. A large part of it is water content. If you try testing again, try letting your bud dry out just a little. Sc labs was pretty inconsistent, but the lab I have been using for a few months now seems to be giving me the same results (or damn near close) that others are getting on the same product.

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See and I know that was my problem because I don't dry my flowers to the point of dust. I like mine sticky so my test results show that with 13% moisture still left. I'm seeing guys with less than 2% and the bud looks like crap pulling higher results than me. I'm not drying it enough .

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Completely dried and cured and my buddy would let stuff get dried to the point of "brittle". I'm pretty savvy to testing procedures/variables, I worked for/executed testing at a medical lab for a little bit while in school. No room for error there, so maybe my standards are a little high. Current methods aren't accurate, THC alone means little without full terpene/cannabinoid details, and even then, our understanding of their relevance/interaction/relationship is in it's infancy, so we don't fully understand what those numbers are telling us. Testing is "fun", a novelty of sorts, I just don't feel that they are all that reliable.

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You win! Happy growing

@xmatox Not trying to win, just laying down the facts on my end. We're all on the same team here, so if you win, I win, they win, we all win. I feel like a fuckin' winner now. Need some more tiger's blood.