Clones not doing so good in bubbler..

ToneOZ said:

Oh and I haven't used a dome as I was under the impression a bubbler doesn't need one

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Your running a water cloner - like an Aero cloner right? Pumps water around with air bubbles in it?
Not a bad method for "woody" plants but, I have not cared for that style with MM...It does work though - kinda slow in my book...
NO dome!

tyke1973 said:

Get a humidity dome,vents closed first 3/4 days after then vents open.

It's the leaves that need misting twice a day for first 5/7 days after that once a day .I would not even have the bubbler on till I knew they was ok,rooting gel have them sitting in pucks after a few days, then put bubbler on.

Also you only need a low intense light a cfl will work perfect.I would put the clones into a mix of water and aloe Vera leave to soak over night,this will help with wilting,but the problem I think lies with humidity.

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Aero or Water cloner = NO dome!

Lostnz said:

You need clone dome dude. They will just struggle without proper dome. As you can see results without dome.


Here are my clones. Unknow strain. Weed bag seeds.

Exactly 14days old from rooted in dome.
150watts compact grow light.
I keep my veg /mother room very hot. 28 30c plus. Fuck all air circulation. Took about 10days to see roots popping out
I misted my girls twice a day with pure rain water. Kept them fully wet.
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Pics 1,2,3 look underfed and are rather far from clone stage! Pic 4 does not appear to be the same plants, unless the plants are much older. Sure don't look the same!
NO domes on Aero or water cloners...

DEMON TRICH is 100% correct!

Pics under hps makes them all look yellow. 4th pic is there home. Very lush green. 400ppm I don't want to rush them as flower chamber still busy. Flowering. Bout 3 more weeks to go before I can transfer them to flowering. Already topping 13inchs. I'm very very tight on space I can't transfer to 2gallons at all.at this stage

Same clones just diff light.

Ok,,,,,Hmmm.

You can lead a horse to water, don't mean the damn things gonna drink. The op has had all the info he needed to correct his prob, but yet won't heed the advise. I'll stick to what I know and get 99.9999% Success Rates every time I cline. Which is 365 days a year.

i am talking about a tub with an airstone in it. i can assure you these clones were green as can be. as far as advice i didnt see any clear advice on here other than a dome. and that is going against what i already knew. i did add a dome last night and now the leaves arent as crispy. they seem to be drying out. also im using a 19 watt cfl about 3 foot inderectly from the tops. this same thing has happened when i tried using peat pellets last year. my only success in cloning was in 2008 using rapid rooters and misting them. i just thought that the bubbler setup was a set it and forget it type system. either way, the clones still look horrible and if i can find a pic of what they looked lime on day one ill show you.

Here is a pic of day one of cloning. Notice how healthy they are. You may want to zoom in.

I just potted 2 of my cloners last night. All of them. They went into the cloner on 5/28, 7 days and excellent root growth. NO f n dome, lol. Under my dual bulb t5 about 16" from tops. If you take healthy cuts, and with enough leaves so the clone has a food storage, it's a set it and forget it. I do check daily for oh, and keep it at 6.0. No additives other than my dip n grow. Stuff kills every other cloning solution I've used in the past 4 yrs. I also use a small air stone in each cloner.my cloner runs 24/7, lights on 18/6. 84* canopy temp, about 77* water temp. Fan blowing on them 24/7.

buy a clone king,,, $65.00 at amazon 100%success rate, no dome ,nonutes,no clone gel etc,,, just ph balanced water and plug it in...i bought one a few years ago,, before that i used the plastic tray with dome and 1'' rock wool w/ dip n grow..it worked great and 99% success but took 10-14 days to get nice healthy roots.. the clone king gets root in 7-10 days every time,,and you need very little light..

I use 4 of them. 2 going on 3 years. Top notch cloner for the money.

are you guys submerging your stems? how much?

No, 1" below the bottom of the foam collar.

Hmmmm..... how are U preparing ur clones? I slice on 45angle. i split the 45 angle cut in half.Then I make 3 slits on each side of stem does that make sense? Then I dip it in and I use jiffy pots. Real basic real cheap setup 100 percent success.

How old are the clones now? No sign of root? Show us a picture of ur mother and how old is she

KISS
Keep
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Simple
Stupid

You guys are way over thinking things.
Just cut at a 45* angle, dip it In the rooting compound of your choice, put in cloner, RR plugs, or rw cubes and let nature do her thing.

DemonTrich said:

I just potted 2 of my cloners last night. All of them. They went into the cloner on 5/28, 7 days and excellent root growth. NO f n dome, lol. Under my dual bulb t5 about 16" from tops. If you take healthy cuts, and with enough leaves so the clone has a food storage, it's a set it and forget it. I do check daily for oh, and keep it at 6.0. No additives other than my dip n grow. Stuff kills every other cloning solution I've used in the past 4 yrs. I also use a small air stone in each cloner.my cloner runs 24/7, lights on 18/6. 84* canopy temp, about 77* water temp. Fan blowing on them 24/7.

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I wish I brought t5 for my clones fuck. Damn hydro guy suggested 150 Compact grow light better. For one mother and some clones. Now I have 2 mother's and clones and my space is squashes no room at all Lol.

well i submerged my clone stems about an inch below. mothers are a foot tall and bushy. about 2 months old i would say. green as can be. how far above the water should the clone stems be? ivheard you wanted the stems to be submerged thats why im doing it that way. not going to take anymore clones to just waste them on this venture.

btw, clones are cut at 45 angle, scraped, and cut in half, and dipped in powdered root hormone.

clones are roughly 7 or 8 days old
clones are taken from bottom branches as well.

Here are some pics of the mothers they came from.

ToneOZ said:

clones are roughly 7 or 8 days old
clones are taken from bottom branches as well.

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I think you're mothers are to small and young could be the problem

Lostnz said:

I think you're mothers are to small and young could be the problem

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highly doubt it. i have taken successful cuttings from younger much smaller plants.
i may have to try rapid rooters.