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I still have a hard time claiming them to be ELITE GENETICS. At least for now. Who knows what they are sending you.

specialkayme said:

I still have a hard time claiming them to be ELITE GENETICS. At least for now. Who knows what they are sending you.

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You are correct. All of this should be the qualifier is that it would be a fair price if this is honest shit and they are what they claim to be. However, for someone living in California that actually has access to those clones, it would be no more profitable to rip people off selling clones of bag seed than it would to get a good name for yourself and sell the real deal, in fact, word would spread really fast and I'm sure it would be less profitable.

specialkayme said:

I still have a hard time claiming them to be ELITE GENETICS. At least for now. Who knows what they are sending you.

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Same goes for seedbanks, you can always say "you never know what you're getting" but we hope for the best, eh?

I would venture to say that the clones he is selling actually is what he claims them to be. I think it would actually involve more work for him to sell some bag shit and call it Gods Gift. BUT alot of people do alot of shitty things. There are scammers out there. Until someone can confirm that they are what they say they are, then I don't feel comfortable calling them ELITE GENETICS.

The same thing goes for several of the seed companies as well. I've ordered seeds from a certain breeder (not to mention names - *cough* GH *cough*) and I've gotten seeds that were totally different from what I ordered. Now that could have been a result of an accident, or just plain laziness, or who knows. But if you claimed that that seed bank sent me high quality ELITE genetics, your claims would be wrong.

shepj said:

Same goes for seedbanks, you can always say "you never know what you're getting" but we hope for the best, eh?

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In total agreement. Either way, seeds or clones, you have to take the buyer at their word. Just buyer beware. A seedbank usually has a reputation to uphold, not to mention bills, CEO's, presidents, rent, advertisements ... ect. This guy doesn't have anything holding him back. Not that I'm saying that's a problem, just something to ponder.

But not only could he be sending you something other than what you ordered (again, I don't think it's the case, but possible), he could also be sending you the WORST mother of a batch he has. That's the one benefit you get from ordering seeds, you can choose your own best mother, the one that holds the best characteristics that you like. Here, you are just taking his word for the fact that it's the best.

I still think it beats the alternative in several situations, don't get me wrong. Just making sure everyone sees the positive sides, as well as the negative.

even if they are A+ genetics now... if they get too big to fill orderslater and have to contract out the cuttings to other growers.. then one grower fucks up an order and decided what the hell ill just send them something else...
but like you said... itd be more of hastle to grow shit weed and sell cuttings?

I would highly doubt they would ever 'outsource' their orders to other growers. Business wise that is the dumbest decision they could make.

specialkayme said:

But not only could he be sending you something other than what you ordered (again, I don't think it's the case, but possible), he could also be sending you the WORST mother of a batch he has. That's the one benefit you get from ordering seeds, you can choose your own best mother, the one that holds the best characteristics that you like. Here, you are just taking his word for the fact that it's the best.

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The thing I'm not sure you are getting is that certain phenos exist as clone only and if that's what he sent you, that's what you are getting. There is no 'worst' mother plant since the genetics are all identical. You brain is still stuck in seed mode which is the result of natural fertilization resulting variation (different phenos). However, with clones, the pheno is pretty much locked in since the genotype will never change. If he has the Bubba Dutch pheno of SSH, that's what your plant will be.

yeah, he's saying what if he cloned a piece of shit mom that blew rectum.

specialkayme said:

I would highly doubt they would ever 'outsource' their orders to other growers. Business wise that is the dumbest decision they could make.

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seed banks do it ?

What is wrong with that?

All you folks bashing the price... Or the genetics...

Feel free to do it cheaper for us, or send to all of us for free.

My inbox is waiting as are others.

I bet we don't get a single person willing to do it even for the same amount of money. Too much hassle and risk.

theyre lookin geerate,the tw is beautiful.

they could probally use a light feedin,maybe a foliar,glad it worked for you. i may order from them when the mother list opens up fully. do you know if theyre clones from feminized seeds or regular?

wackymack said:

theyre lookin geerate,the tw is beautiful.

they could probally use a light feedin,maybe a foliar,glad it worked for you. i may order from them when the mother list opens up fully. do you know if theyre clones from feminized seeds or regular?

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I think you are under the mistaken impression that selfing a clone only strain is the same thing as taking a cutting. Feminized seeds are not clones. They are still pollinated so is still considered a mating and will show various phenos. For any trait the strain is heterozygous for has a chance of being different than the mother plant. There is no way to turn a clone only strain and get seeds from them that are guaranteed genetically identical, in fact the odds are small. There are ways to backcross to try to approximate as close as possible which is where where get things like Chem D, not a clone of Chemdog but a very close cross that was carefully selected and re-backcrossed, etc. until the desired results were achieved.

i think i will just stick with mail order seeds for now, reason being that the point special k made about customs merely "removing" the contraband and thats all that ever happens, and within the states leo is informed and the package traced and investigations started. thats a bit too risky imo. however the strains available do make it very tempting tho. peace

sir $moka lot

OregonMeds said:

All you folks bashing the price... Or the genetics...

Feel free to do it cheaper for us, or send to all of us for free.

My inbox is waiting as are others.

I bet we don't get a single person willing to do it even for the same amount of money. Too much hassle and risk.

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Shocking. Another post on RIU about someone asking for a hand out.

No offense OM, I know you are just proving a point, but this forum seems to be flooded with lazy people who want things handed to them for nothing.

well I sent my $$ off to the Netherlands...we will see....I will be keeping everyone interested updated

good luck def. keep us posted.

sir $moka lot said:

i think i will just stick with mail order seeds for now, reason being that the point special k made about customs merely "removing" the contraband and thats all that ever happens, and within the states leo is informed and the package traced and investigations started. thats a bit too risky imo. however the strains available do make it very tempting tho. peace

sir $moka lot

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Something else to consider... No one can control what is sent to them.. Had a friend receive a package fro FLA..UPS delivered it..LEO busted in the door...The Judge wacked LEO's pp because my friend, nor anyone else can control what gets sent to them..He hadn't even opened the box..Now the fact that he had dozens of the same containers didn't matter as they were tupperware. I get stuff addressed to the wrong name all the time.. I've been getting mail for the same guy for 12 years.. and as far as I know, he NEVER even lived here!! Sooo .. *s*

Anotheroldephart said:

Something else to consider... No one can control what is sent to them.. Had a friend receive a package fro FLA..UPS delivered it..LEO busted in the door...The Judge wacked LEO's pp because my friend, nor anyone else can control what gets sent to them..He hadn't even opened the box..Now the fact that he had dozens of the same containers didn't matter as they were tupperware. I get stuff addressed to the wrong name all the time.. I've been getting mail for the same guy for 12 years.. and as far as I know, he NEVER even lived here!! Sooo .. *s*

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Yeah I used the previous owners name at the safe-house I had delievered to. As the people there now have been still receiving mail from that persons name. But yeah how can you can control what is sent to you..what if someone had a vendetta against someone and could set them up. Just like anything we do with cannabis have to be careful.