cloning in hydroton?

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kanabiis420

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Is it ok to cut clones and put them in root take and then into hydroton?

its in a moisture box i built to hold in the moisture but im not sure if this setup is ok???
 
cowell

cowell

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I'm still doing some research on cloning, but I would say not a good choice. The hydrotron may not block the light from the area being rooted.. so I think you may have issues.. even if you start them in rockwool or the like you are doing the "norm"... I don't know that it can't be done, but I think you need light blockage, and moisture.. could be wrong, but if I am someone will let me know
 
doctorD

doctorD

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Its not the light as much as the moisture. I have had roots growing several inches out of the rockwool with no problems. It put them i the hydro rocks after I see them popping out but sometimes I dont get to it right away so I think it wouldnt be a big problem. You will however have problems with the hydro rocks not holding enough moisture in close contact with the stem. Good Luck
 
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regd87

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JimVarney said:
Cloning is extremely difficult and should only be done by highly experienced growers...sorry dude.
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that's a bit of an over statement. Cloning is by no means something that beginner can't learn to do. It's not that hard to learn.
 
DND

DND

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It has and can be done. You will need to make sure that you have close to 90%+ humidity at all times and because hydroton does not hold water well (I suggest) you water them at least 3 times a day.
 
doctorD

doctorD

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JimVarney said:
Cloning is extremely difficult and should only be done by highly experienced growers...sorry dude.
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Sorry but this is just plain wrong. Cloning couldnt be any easier. Stoners have mane it sound cool by calling it cloning. It isnt cloning at all. Its merely taking cuttings and rooting them in some water.
Ask your Grandma she has been doing it for years id bet.
 
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kanabiis420

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ha you all are hilarious!!! i appreciate the info from everyone... im going to be safe and move my clones to rockwool or maybe soil then transplant later... and despite how much of an experienced grower mr Varney feels i should be to clone, i think my cuttings will do just fine growing their little roots out. lol thx everyone
 
doitinthewoods

doitinthewoods

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doctorD said:
Sorry but this is just plain wrong. Cloning couldnt be any easier. Stoners have mane it sound cool by calling it cloning. It isnt cloning at all. Its merely taking cuttings and rooting them in some water.
Ask your Grandma she has been doing it for years id bet.
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yea, my dad has been doing it for like 25 years with apple trees. It's nothing super scientific. I've always wanted to try grafting with weed. I guess it would work, in theory anyway.

..and I've only cloned in rock wool, and then in to hydroton.
 
Twistedfunk

Twistedfunk

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Yes you can, I have done it. It was not the most effective way to clone though. Now, if i plan on moving it to hydroton, i will root the clones in a mini-bubbler and then you can just bury them in the hydroton when they get long enough roots, its very easy and makes me feel weird calling it a "transplant"
 
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kanabiis420

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i thought about rooting them in a mini bubbler too.... so its the same process? just use some rooting substance on the cut end of the cutting and then put it into the bubbler always submerged?
 
Twistedfunk

Twistedfunk

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kanabiis420 said:
i thought about rooting them in a mini bubbler too.... so its the same process? just use some rooting substance on the cut end of the cutting and then put it into the bubbler always submerged?
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i make my cutting to size and dip it in my hormone as usual. i just make sure that at least half an inch of the cutting is submerged, that seems to be enough to keep them from drying out. no spraying or humidity dome is required but is suppose it couldn't hurt if you are in a dry area. after the roots start to stretch out a bit (1-2 inches should be enough) then you can stick em in your hydroton. your cutting should be easy to bury since the roots aren't very long. it can take about a week or so for your cutting to expand in and bind with the hydroton but once that has started you should be on your way. It should also be noted that i do this with my aquaponics setup and sunlight so take that into your considerations. :blsmoke:
 
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2ez

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JimVarney said:
Cloning is extremely difficult and should only be done by highly experienced growers...sorry dude.
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i dont agree with that statement im new to this growing thing and all of my clones have rooted and been put in veg.you dont have to be a genius to figure out cloning
 
fmgeek

fmgeek

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Hi! maybe this is covered elsewhere, but this thread seems ambiguous on the subject, and I'd like to clear this up.

I just tried a side-by-side comparison, and got amazing results! I think it's because the cloning powder got more time on the stems.

These were all cut at the same time, with the same methods, on 4/1. Today is 4/10. I put most of them in my spray cloner, and just 5 of them in my 3" net pots with hydroton. Same water (1ml/L JumpStart, ph 5.8, 71F,) same water changes, (one, after 6 days) same spray frequency. (30 seconds every 30 minutes.)

I just moved those 5 back into the spray cloner to make room for vegging plants.

Guess which 5 were in the hydroton?
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Pretty hard to argue with these results. Hope you find them useful! I'm now going to make a dedicated hydroton-based cloner. I'm thinking a 14 gallon tote with as many 2" net pots as I can cram into the lid! (Probably about 50.)

Peace.
 
fmgeek

fmgeek

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Just wanted to share a picture of my new 35-site cloner. Some of you will recognize the big black/yellow Home Depot. Works awesome. Leaks if I leave it on full time, but my interval timer kicks it on for 30 seconds every 30 minutes, and not a drop leaks out now. (Leaving the pump on all the time just heats the water up anyway, and I think I get faster results.)
Cost:
tote 14
pump 25
pvc pipe 2
nozzles 3
net pots 9
hydroton 5
airstone 1
airhose 1
Total: 60

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