Club 315w lec

GemuGrows

GemuGrows

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I really think for larger home grow areas (between 630w and 4000w) a mix of HPS and LEC can perform incredibly wel.



IMO an individual 630w LEC fixture is overkill. Any time i've had 2x lec 315 lights next to each other it has been too much light (far too much).

I think the 3 most ideal fixture setups are:

-Appropriately spaced LEC 315 fixtures
-Appropriately spaced LEC 315 fixtures with some 600-1000w HPS fixtures in between
-Double Ended HPS fixtures (if you have a shitload of room); if your running these you know what you need

But for most of us the first 2 options are ideal.

these LEC315's are not to be underestimated. Keep them too close and they WILL light bleach your plants; without any heat burn at all- despite their low wattage.

If you have a 5*X grow room (5 foot by X foot) IMO a mix of HPS and LEC would be ideal. If its 4*X foot then you have your choice, if its 3*X foot then pure LEC is ideal.

LEC lights work incredibly well to put in between HPS bulbs to make sure every square inch of your grow space has perfectly adequate light.

Sometimes fitting your space "perfectly" with LEC will be too much light (which hurts plants).

Sometimes fitting your space "perfectly" with LEC won't be enough light; in which case having a few strategically placed HPS and LEC will do you wonders

And sometimes fitting your room with HPS (especially double ended HPS) is ideal; and maybe even then a few LEC in some lacking spots or corners will help you totally fill your light needs is appropriate.

The lights can really fill in the holes in the other. Sometimes pure LEC is ideal(very often), sometimes a mix is ideal (very often), and sometimes HPS id ideal.

The beauty with mixing with HPS bulbs is that you get a bunch of hoods to vent from and you fill out your bloom spectrum very well (although i'm honesty not sure if LEC's need that).



This is tough stuff to explain. Once you work a bunch with both lights you will understand; but in small grows LEC can be perfect- in medium grows LEC with HPS can create an unbelievable light setup. Once you get used to them both you'll be able to craft incredible grow spaces.




Everybody seems to be getting along here now which makes me happy (: I'm here if anybody thinks my info is relevant; ask me anything
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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GemuGrows said:
I really think for larger home grow areas (between 630w and 4000w) a mix of HPS and LEC can perform incredibly wel.



IMO an individual 630w LEC fixture is overkill. Any time i've had 2x lec 315 lights next to each other it has been too much light (far too much).

I think the 3 most ideal fixture setups are:

-Appropriately spaced LEC 315 fixtures
-Appropriately spaced LEC 315 fixtures with some 600-1000w HPS fixtures in between
-Double Ended HPS fixtures (if you have a shitload of room); if your running these you know what you need

But for most of us the first 2 options are ideal.

these LEC315's are not to be underestimated. Keep them too close and they WILL light bleach your plants; without any heat burn at all- despite their low wattage.

If you have a 5*X grow room (5 foot by X foot) IMO a mix of HPS and LEC would be ideal. If its 4*X foot then you have your choice, if its 3*X foot then pure LEC is ideal.

LEC lights work incredibly well to put in between HPS bulbs to make sure every square inch of your grow space has perfectly adequate light.

Sometimes fitting your space "perfectly" with LEC will be too much light (which hurts plants).

Sometimes fitting your space "perfectly" with LEC won't be enough light; in which case having a few strategically placed HPS and LEC will do you wonders

And sometimes fitting your room with HPS (especially double ended HPS) is ideal; and maybe even then a few LEC in some lacking spots or corners will help you totally fill your light needs is appropriate.

The lights can really fill in the holes in the other. Sometimes pure LEC is ideal(very often), sometimes a mix is ideal (very often), and sometimes HPS id ideal.

The beauty with mixing with HPS bulbs is that you get a bunch of hoods to vent from and you fill out your bloom spectrum very well (although i'm honesty not sure if LEC's need that).



This is tough stuff to explain. Once you work a bunch with both lights you will understand; but in small grows LEC can be perfect- in medium grows LEC with HPS can create an unbelievable light setup. Once you get used to them both you'll be able to craft incredible grow spaces.




Everybody seems to be getting along here now which makes me happy (: I'm here if anybody thinks my info is relevant; ask me anything
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Good post and I will agree. On the DE I will add by shitload of room you also need good height.

As I have said previously, the 315's are one of my favorite lights that I have used, and if I wasn't so pleased with my DIY COB testing so far I would basically have a bunch of vertical 315 phillips bulbs running spaced correctly with remote mounted ballast.

Here is the NL I grew under my Sunsystems 315, it netted me a 1/2 unit dry and was my first ever plant to flower out, she had a 2 month veg with mainlining under an 8 bulb T5.

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GemuGrows

GemuGrows

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Evil-Mobo said:
Good post and I will agree. On the DE I will add by shitload of room you also need good height.

As I have said previously, the 315's are one of my favorite lights that I have used, and if I wasn't so pleased with my DIY COB testing so far I would basically have a bunch of vertical 315 phillips bulbs running spaced correctly with remote mounted ballast.

Here is the NL I grew under my Sunsystems 315, it netted me a 1/2 unit dry and was my first ever plant to flower out, she had a 2 month veg with mainlining under an 8 bulb T5.

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Looking great breh

When I think Double Ended HPS i think Medicropper's garden https://www.youtube.com/user/medicropper/videos
^That dudes a monster

But yeah i gotta say these LEC's have impressed me very much.
 
GemuGrows

GemuGrows

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Evil-Mobo said:
That guy is on a whole 'nother level bro lol. Mad respect for grows like that!
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That homie is watering his garden with some of my technology that I gave him :D

Yeah medicropper is where its at man. He pulls some serious chronic with impressive quantities
 
KushyMcKush

KushyMcKush

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Very happy with my ss 315! This thing is a beast in my 4x4 (well a 3.5x4.5 closet). I have 6 plants in here and the only areas a notice a lack of production is around the very outside edges so I spin everyone around once a week and keep my smallest girls on the outsides. 4 RD 501st OG, 1 Bodhi ssdd, 1 Bodhi granola funk (very very tiny plant). The only problem I have right now is that it doesn't keep my room warm enough! 65-68F... so I have a heater running during lights on to get it up to 75 lol. I want to add another for next run. What donyou think? Too much for this room? Maybe I should add ~150w of cob to one side just to fill it out? Anyone notice extremely leafy plants with these?
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Great penetration. This is about 7-8 nodes down.
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DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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Yodaweed said:
Yea sounds like I would need 2 of those lights to cover the same area as my 600w hps does, my hps does 16 squared feet, this light does 9. Yield is mainly determined by grow area, I don't see how this could yield as much as a 600w hps or a 1000w hps. 3x3 is kinda a small pattern and doesn't match my area I would have a good amount of overlap, i'd have to run 8 of these to cover what 3 of my hps cover. I would wager that would be a whole heap of a lot more heat.
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I run 3x600mh in a 5x10 tent, them 3x600hps in a 8x12 built room. The light spread per1x600 is no where near adequate to do a 16' spread.


What bulbs you guys running? 31k, 42k, agro, elite cdm?
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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Yodaweed said:
I use a 600w hps in a 4x4 tent and it covers from wall to wall, I measured with my light meter and have grown plants from wall to wall. It's more about the reflector than anything, a 600w hps will properly cover a 4x4 for sure, that's what they are made for, and a 1000w hps will cover a 5x5, just like a 400w hps will cover a 3x3....even dumb ass grow weed easy knows whats up

http://www.growweedeasy.com/mh-hps-upgrade-guide

Sounds like you guys aren't buying good reflectors.
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I disagree. We will leave it at that.
 
Sire Killem All

Sire Killem All

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Carolina Dream'n said:
I disagree. We will leave it at that.
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maybe in a tent but i always felt like the 5×5 in open with a 1k was lacking around the edges.
ran a 1k a 4×4 open and once in a tent with a sealed hoodand could see the diffenceversus the types. so I imagine a 630 work in a 4×4 open area and Up too a 5×5 in a tent behind glass.
 
bob223

bob223

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Sire Killem All said:
this would be over kill, this will run 2 DE630 lamps.

http://hydrobuilder.com/nanolux-de-dual-fixture-600wx2-208-240v.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=DEFNC-600x2&gclid=Cj0KEQjwhvbABRDOp4rahNjh-tMBEiQA0QgTGuFvThvRmAK5DT9XPUDkmU9kB-hWizyUkJnq-k0Vqh8aAvrg8P8HAQ
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holy S%*#..... those are badass. for $1049 you would get to run 4 630 DE lamps? there is a guy on youtube running one 630 DE in a 5x5 and getting great results. Growers choice is the only one i know of making the bulb. I think if Philips ever got on board DE LEC could become a real thing but till then it will kinda be a novelty....... A kick ass novelty
 
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