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jigfresh

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3eyes that sux bout the mold, it hit us all hard this year for some reason.

Has anyone ever used food coloring to change weed color, like add it to nutrients?
I've heard about people doing this at harvest. What they do is cut a branch and put it into a glass full of colored water. Turns the buds interesting colors. I don't know how it would work with nutrients in the mix, and I don't think it would work at all in soil... maybe hydro, but you would need like a gallon of food coloring. I think the harvesting way would be the best. I seen pics of pink buds.

@natty... I don't know anything about those heat shields. I use a diy cooltube. I think most of us use either cool tubes or enclosed refelctors... however, someone once posted something about one of those heat shields. I don't know if they used them, or if they were asking like you. Lol, how's that for no useful information.
 

bassman999

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Thanx for the reply Jig, just looking for added bag appeal. Since I had mold issues I have used a super-duty de-humidifier. Anyway it keeps my temps at night way higher than they would have been. The coloring has all but stopped as a result....lol
 

DoobieBrother

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Doob, that is a nice garden u have there!! I dont know what you are growing in though? Did you build that grow cabinet?
Do those dual fans feed from outside? If so what do you do to keep light out?
Hi bassman, and thanks :-)
The dual-fan unit on the left feeds from the cold night air while the lights are on, and I keep the day light out (night photoperiod for the plants) with a few vertical cardboard slats for light baffles that are painted flat black and are offset so that no light gets into the box.
The cool air is drawn across the tops of the plants, and the glass plate is barely above skin temperature when I put my hand up to it.
The cool air is drawn out of the box by the same type of fan on the other wall, and it gets ducted up into the sealed light hood which has a 265cfm squirrelcage fan sucking it all out and blasting it back outside through a ported window insert.
All DIY by me, and the growbox is made so that I can store hundreds of pounds of yet-to-be-unpacked household items on top of it since moving back to Oregon (and until we are back in a house).
It's inside dimensions are 48"x48"x60" tall.

As for plant variety, I was al cornfused when I narrated , so here's a list of what's in there and where in the box it sits.:

Front-row plants and the two other plants on the right-hand side (5 plants total) are all Deep Blue/Jack The Ripper/and?.
There is also a young clone of the huge DB/JTR/and? that's been in 12/12 for about 8 days now.

The remaining 4 plants are:
Deep Blue (F2)
C4/Casey
Herijuana
DOG

I bungled the narration pretty badly ;-)
 

DoobieBrother

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Hey people. I've just invested in a 600w HPS light (dual spec bulb) w/ a digital ballast. I've had a friend recomend buying a heat shield for my HPS. Are they any good? I plan on using a airhood in the future.

http://www.greensea-hydroponics.co.uk/shop/Lighting_Reflector_Heatshield.html
I think you'd be as well served by spending that 13 on a good fan to blow across the tops of the plants to create air flow between the plants and the bulb.
But I've never used a shield like that, so I'm only guessing.
 

duchieman

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I've read about those. I actually want to try one out. No need for one in a tube or hood but open bulb/reflector I've heard they're pretty good. Not for keeping heat down though, you will still have problems with that if your not equipped for it. All these things do are displace the heat from the hot spot right under your bulb, therefore from the plants right underneath, without light loss.

So again. If your planning on a hood or cool tube, I don't think I'd bother. Just lift your light higher until you square things away. IMO.
 

DoobieBrother

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You can make one DIY for next to nothing if you put your mind to it, too.
Pocket the 13, or spend it on mycorrhizae or towards a spare bulb. ;-)
 

Min8040

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Happy Anniversary Jig and Mrs. Jig! :clap: Have a great day!

Cof, you've got me all excited again. She looks great.

Min. Thanks for posting the pic and link. The inline fan your looking at looks good but I haven't seen one like that before so not positive. It is coming from a hydro supply and it is a 6", which is a mistake I made not getting and only getting a 4". I don't understand the unit of measure for air flow used there either. I'm used to CFM, cubic feet per minute, here.

About the reflector. I'm not seeing good things happening putting that in a tent. It takes up a large chunk of space and I think it's going to hold down a lot of heat. Even with circulating fans, which I recommend a couple, including an oscillating one, which I don't have, dammit!. They'll just end up blowing warm air around. You want the cool fresh air coming in the bottom and the warm stale air sucked out through you're filter/fan, at the top, ideally, where it'll collect. But that shield will stop that.

I wanted to post the pic of the inline for everyone to see.



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Thanks for the reply, I think I will just keep the reflector for the room I am building and will purchase a smaller single unit (small batwing). Should I just use 1batwing and do 1 plant or will it be ok to use 2small batwings and do 2 plants? I`m not sure as the size of the tent is abit small.
 

duchieman

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Thanks for the reply, I think I will just keep the reflector for the room I am building and will purchase a smaller single unit (small batwing). Should I just use 1batwing and do 1 plant or will it be ok to use 2small batwings and do 2 plants? I`m not sure as the size of the tent is abit small.
There's too many ways to go about it for me to tell you which way is best. I can tell you I have 2 1m2 tents, so slightly smaller than yours, and I have 1 600W in each tent. One is just an open reflector and one is a cool tube. If you can control your head then the open reflector is fine. I personally would never run more than 1 600W in my tent, unless I was doing a vertical grow which is a whole other discussion. How many plants you grow depends on the style and technique you choose to go. Some people here grow 1 or 2 large plants and some grow 20+ small ones. I average about 10 in mine. If your tent is in a coolish room with access to fresh air, you should be okay with an open reflector if money is and issue and a cool tube or enclosed hood is out of the question. Just make sure you have a decent portable fan or two in there to for circulation.

Question. How many ballasts do you have?
 

Min8040

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There's too many ways to go about it for me to tell you which way is best. I can tell you I have 2 1m2 tents, so slightly smaller than yours, and I have 1 600W in each tent. One is just an open reflector and one is a cool tube. If you can control your head then the open reflector is fine. I personally would never run more than 1 600W in my tent, unless I was doing a vertical grow which is a whole other discussion. How many plants you grow depends on the style and technique you choose to go. Some people here grow 1 or 2 large plants and some grow 20+ small ones. I average about 10 in mine. If your tent is in a coolish room with access to fresh air, you should be okay with an open reflector if money is and issue and a cool tube or enclosed hood is out of the question. Just make sure you have a decent portable fan or two in there to for circulation.

Question. How many ballasts do you have?
I have 2 Sunmaster 600w ballasts.
I just want to grow 2 plants without doing anything to them.
This is the reflector I was thinking of getting as its way smaller and holds just the 1 globe.


Ok, I won`t run 2 of them as you say you wouldn`t. But will I be able to grow 2 plants well with just the 1 light in the reflector I just posted above?
I will one day get a cooltube but for now this will have to do as cash flow aint the best atm. Pumping all my time a $ into building a grow room.
 

duchieman

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I completely understand the cash thing. The reflectors a definite improvement. Not used to seeing the white. Again, about the plants, it depends on too many things. What you expect to get vs what you do. Lots of different growers with different techniques on this thread alone so check around and see what everyone's doing. You can see what I'm doing in mine by clicking on the link in my signature.
 

Min8040

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What is better regarding the coating on the reflectors, white or the silver hammer tone?
@duchieman, can you please post pics of your setup so I can get some ideas. I`d like to see the way you have things setup just to get some ideas.
 

duchieman

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This link will take you to a post in my first journal thread. In this post is pictures of my setup when I first got it. Then you can check out the rest of that thread if you like. For newer stuff, like I said, there;s a link in my signature for my new thread.

The silver is more common is all I know. The only negative I've ever heard about white is tents that are lined white instead of mylar, but I know nothing of that either.
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/387947-duchies-little-big-top-under.html#post5150778
 

Min8040

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Ok, with the tent that i`m getting which of these would ppl recommend I get? I will be running it as a 600w.
1

2

3


I`ve seen people on this forum run them all but what would be the best 1 for me to get to grow 2 plants in a 1.2x1.2x2.0 mtr tent?
I will be wanting to purchace 1 within the next 2 weeks or so.
 

DST

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I think horizontally growing you would be better going for number 3.

Morning 600, hope you are well. I wonder what is up with CoreyB........wtf, lol.

Sunny Sunday today. Peace, DST
 

Min8040

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Thank you for you input/reply. I will sit and wait to see what other have to say aswell. I will need 1 of these setup with a good fan to keep things cool as summer is knocking on my door.
 

DST

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I would def be sitting, these bloody stoners can take a while to reply. Saying that though, I think most of them will agree with my choice as the favoured growing option (for horizontal) I know whodat uses cool tubes horizontally but he has weed growing out of every orrifice. From what I have heard the reflectors on the cool tubes are not optimum, but perhaps they have improved. Myself, I use Cool Tubes but I grow vertically. Roll youself a joint while you wait. Think I'll do the same and go and check on me stinky room.


Thank you for you input/reply. I will sit and wait to see what other have to say aswell. I will need 1 of these setup with a good fan to keep things cool as summer is knocking on my door.
 

jigfresh

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Option 3 (like D says) is my vote. Guess you are so. hemisphere eh? Cricket fan by any chance, hehe.

Do you only have the 1 plant left outdoors D?

Here's a pic my wife took at the lake today. Have a good sunday everyone!!!

 

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