Comparative Grow: from Dutch Passion at The Vault

It's not oregano

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Pics taken on day 38 just after a watering.
Starting to stretch out nicely under the qb running at 60w. There is some slight yellowing of the top leaves but I am hoping it is more a case of rapid new growth than light burn. The bottom pic makes it look much worse than it actually is, but I will keep an eye on it.

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Sfrigon 1

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Pics taken on day 38 just after a watering.
Starting to stretch out nicely under the qb running at 60w. There is some slight yellowing of the top leaves but I am hoping it is more a case of rapid new growth than light burn. The bottom pic makes it look much worse than it actually is, but I will keep an eye on it.

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I got the same shit going on w one out of ten plants. I'm pretty sure I over watered a couple times and it just need to bounce back
 

JimmiP

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Quick question community so I topped each one of these once should I top the two mains again? Also should I top the side branches once if so how many nodes should there be on the side branches before I top
It depends on what you want them to do. And how long you want to veg them. After topping the first time I start bending the main stem over to let the other branches catch up to the same height. Then if I want to I will top again at the two new tops. On the side branches I wait for the third node and pinch or fim the tips.
 

Nizza

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Pics taken on day 38 just after a watering.
Starting to stretch out nicely under the qb running at 60w. There is some slight yellowing of the top leaves but I am hoping it is more a case of rapid new growth than light burn. The bottom pic makes it look much worse than it actually is, but I will keep an eye on it.

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What is that in the front of the chamber a fan? What kind?

Not sure what the wispy leaves are from though. I would start by putting a layer of black plastic around that bubble wrap you dont want the roots seeing light
 

It's not oregano

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What is that in the front of the chamber a fan? What kind?

Not sure what the wispy leaves are from though. I would start by putting a layer of black plastic around that bubble wrap you dont want the roots seeing light
It’s a 40w tube heater to try and keep temps up, as I grow in an unheated concrete garage. Temps were only 1c the other day outside of my cabinet in the garage!
I already have black plastic around the pots, and then bubble wrap over the top of that,to help keep root temps up, but I appreciate the advice.
 

Nizza

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cool man! It may be the cold then~ what r your temps?
sometimes a soil thermometer is nice. It gives you a real measurement of the root temp so you are sure the roots aren't too cold. The foliage can handle a bit more

60-65 is a good root temp. Edit: 65-70 is ideal in soil and 60 is the lowest you want it You can also take your average intake and figure out what your root temp should be. I wonder if the back side of the roots further from the heater are colder than the closer side
 
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It's not oregano

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The heater is keeping it at 19c minimum and hopefully when i get into full flower i can turn the light up more and get another couple of degrees from that. As it is only a seedling cabinet I am using just for this grow I don’t have room for another heater in there. I do rotate the pot a couple of times a day so hopefully all the roots get a chance for a bit of warmth.
New growth is shooting out every day, I am convinced the wispy leaves are just a result of that, and as I mentioned earlier the very top bit of the plant doesn’t look as tellow as the pic, more a paler green than the rest of it.
I appreciate the advice though, i sm always happy for people to comment on my grows, you are never too old to learn in my opinion.
 

DirtyDogs446

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It depends on what you want them to do. And how long you want to veg them. After topping the first time I start bending the main stem over to let the other branches catch up to the same height. Then if I want to I will top again at the two new tops. On the side branches I wait for the third node and pinch or fim the tips.
Well I want to maximize the grow space I think I will top everything once more which will be today keep them in veg for another two weeks then hit them into flowering
 

DirtyDogs446

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I feel like with 3 in the 4×= space 2 more weeks and flipping should fill it up I would imagine that will be like around 45 days in veg I will post pics later
 

Nizza

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To clarify the main branches were topped twice all side branches once
If trying to get the side growth equal to the top growth, check out apical dominance and tucking.
You can sometimes just get away with tucking the higher branches under the lower ones, or taking lower branches and putting them above stuff. The idea is that the highest part of the plant will get the most growth, so if one branch is dominating try bringing it lower than the branches you want to grow out more and you will get more even tops.

Looking great by the way!
 

DirtyDogs446

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If trying to get the side growth equal to the top growth, check out apical dominance and tucking.
You can sometimes just get away with tucking the higher branches under the lower ones, or taking lower branches and putting them above stuff. The idea is that the highest part of the plant will get the most growth, so if one branch is dominating try bringing it lower than the branches you want to grow out more and you will get more even tops.

Looking great by the way!
Thanks buddy with this scrog it should all be equal in the end if some right
 
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