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DoubleAtotheRON

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I don't think it has any effect on the CO2 levels but let me know what Michael tells you about it. You breathe out CO2 as well when you are in the room.
Yep!.. this is a reading Im getting after being out of there for a couple of hours.. I know we breathe out at around 30-50,000 PPM, ... maybe its just hanging around after I've been in there. They are still young after all.
 

Keesje

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Just got this up yesterday, so it will be a while before we have got solid results like no signs of Botrytis at harvest. But upon installation, after a few min, it just smelled like fresh clean air in there. It took a while for the system to clean the air and I got no H2O3 readings for a couple of hours as it cleaened up the room and built it up. I had to set it to 100% power to do the initial cleaning and as the H2O3 built up, I backed it down to 85% for it to level out to ~30PPB. Other than that, it’s plug and play. The noise level is pretty high, but it sounds like the beginning of “Sofie Needs a Ladder” by Deadmau5. It has a built in SD card that records every 72 second reading that can hold years of information, a fan RPM gauge so you can see if your piping has too many elbows (my piping was very simple and non restrictive), to see if you are building too much back pressure. A very slick little unit! Maintenance is going to be about $1000 a year for 2 filters and 2 sensors. Oh yeah!, AirROS prob has the best customer service I’ve ever experienced.
Thank you for your comprehensive answer, but with my question about a link with substantiation, I actually addressed @F80M4 with his comments about drying with CO2.

But now that we are talking... did you ever consider drying your buds for 2 weeks or so and then use something like Tom'sThumbler?
Perhaps it would save you lots of time.
Maybe I asked this before :)
If so, sorry!
 

F80M4

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The link to the co2 trimmer

Freeze dryer

Pretty sure they have the big daddy too, if not cannafreeze or cryo cure has one
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Thank you for your comprehensive answer, but with my question about a link with substantiation, I actually addressed @F80M4 with his comments about drying with CO2.

But now that we are talking... did you ever consider drying your buds for 2 weeks or so and then use something like Tom'sThumbler?
Perhaps it would save you lots of time.
Maybe I asked this before :)
If so, sorry!
I believe we did talk about this. I looked into it, and we’re really pretty happy with the GreenBroz... we do hang dry for 10-12 days in a controlled environment.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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@Renfro .... you are correct. This is from Michael.
“Hi Aaron, thank you for that. The sensor reads the O3 level. H2O2- Hydrogen peroxide is usually 2 to 3 times higher than the O3 depending on humidity.”
OSHA standards for 03 levels are 100ppb for 8 hour exposure, or 50PPB for 24 hour continuous. So 30PPB is well below the threshold.
 

Keesje

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The link to the co2 trimmer

Freeze dryer

Pretty sure they have the big daddy too, if not cannafreeze or cryo cure has one
They are both links to manufacturers, so although they explain how it works, it is not an independent review.
Every manufacturer is always crazy about his own product.
I would want to know what the real benefit is, of freezing your product extra when it is already dried.
So far I cannot find any reviews about that.
To me it looks more like a gimmick. But time will tell.
 

Keesje

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Grow 4 , Grow 5 (experiment)
Early Lemon Berry 140.7 grams Early Lemon Berry 251.1 grams
Kosher Sorbet 108.2 grams Kosher Sorbet 213.33 grams
Dosi Whoa! 127.2 grams Dosi Whoa! 292 grams
Orange Kush Cake 128.9 grams Orange Kush Cake 250.4 grams
Those are huge differences!
Happy for you of course.
But I guess your assumption that you did not do so well in Grow 4 might be right.
Normally growers are already calling the newspaper when they have 30% extra with CO2.
But you doubled the outcome!
Perhaps the climate and lights you have where not right for the plants without the extra CO2.
Let's hope grow 6 gives a similar outcome!
 

Renfro

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Those are huge differences!
Happy for you of course.
But I guess your assumption that you did not do so well in Grow 4 might be right.
Normally growers are already calling the newspaper when they have 30% extra with CO2.
But you doubled the outcome!
Perhaps the climate and lights you have where not right for the plants without the extra CO2.
Let's hope grow 6 gives a similar outcome!
I would imagine the CO2, side lighting and added experience all added up to bump those #'s up.
 

Keesje

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I would imagine the CO2, side lighting and added experience all added up to bump those #'s up.
But doubling is quite a thing to achieve.
Sure extra light will help, and yes, more experience is always better.
But I think somehow the opening of the stomata this grow was perfect, and in the previous grows not yet. So the top results might have something to do with the VPD, combined with the extra light.
If you change several things, it is always hard to determine afterwards.

@DoubleAtotheRON
What were the CO2 PPM levels?
And did you build them up slowly?
 

F80M4

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They are both links to manufacturers, so although they explain how it works, it is not an independent review.
Every manufacturer is always crazy about his own product.
I would want to know what the real benefit is, of freezing your product extra when it is already dried.
So far I cannot find any reviews about that.
To me it looks more like a gimmick. But time will tell.
Saw their stories on Instagram and some vids on YouTube that's about it. Looked very interesting
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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But doubling is quite a thing to achieve.
Sure extra light will help, and yes, more experience is always better.
But I think somehow the opening of the stomata this grow was perfect, and in the previous grows not yet. So the top results might have something to do with the VPD, combined with the extra light.
If you change several things, it is always hard to determine afterwards.

@DoubleAtotheRON
What were the CO2 PPM levels?
And did you build them up slowly?
We got the burner in right about the flip, and I did not build it up gradually. I just set it at 1200ppm with a 100 dead band, and raised the temps from mid to upper 70’s to 85-86. On the last two weeks, I started dropping temps and CO2 levels to 600ppm and 65 day temps, and had raised the lights up by the time we harvested.
 

F80M4

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Just keep your ppm at 1200 and triggers at 1000 my temps are 26c with 12 lights with a 3 ton mini split. the temps drop to 19-20c when lights are off. My next run I'm going train my plants gonna try something different. I'll snap some pics currently on week 4
 
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Keesje

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I know that everyone has a different view of day and night temperatures.
Many want a biger difference as this would add more resin.
But what people need to realize is that with a big difference you also have a greater chance of bud rot.
Mildew as well.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I know that everyone has a different view of day and night temperatures.
Many want a biger difference as this would add more resin.
But what people need to realize is that with a big difference you also have a greater chance of bud rot.
Mildew as well.
That’s exactly why we got the AirROS system.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Well shit. Against my better judgment, I used BM7 soil for grow 6. I stabbed the bags with my Apera, and got ~6.7 readings, and after being in the room for 30 days, it crashed the ph on me. Not my first rodeo with this. So I flushed everything at 11.3 ph plain water and then feed.... back up to 6.7. Gonna go back to C25 for grow 7.
 
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