Contest within ROLLITUP

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netpirate

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Ok so I have noticed that rollitup has not allowed contest without guidelines and things of that sort. I was wondering if anyone would get banned or in trouble for starting contest within their own thread. The prizes have yet to be determined. Actually a lot has yet to be determined. Just wondering if this was allowed. :leaf: anyone?:leaf:
 

Kodank Moment

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I would think No. But you could always pm a mod or something. I mean if something where to go wrong then the site could get in trouble and get dragged into things. But you never know. Can I help with your "alleged" contest that "isn't" going to happen? :D
 

GrowTech

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You need to talk to rolli...

Sadly though, there are probably a lot of people who would give you their address if they won something in a "contest" -- It seems Rule #1 is always the one that gets broken the most.
 

ZenMaster

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I wouldn't advise on it. Security is an issue here, especially based upon the nature of this forum, and it would not be wise to have any kind of connection or paper trail to be made apparent. Basically, it would be a hazard to you, or to whomever won a prize, because of revealing mailing addresses or such contact information. I don't know who you are, I certainly don't want you to be mailing me anything, and on the contrary, you don't know who you would be exchanging info with, could be an informant. This is of course assuming that you would be giving out prizes that would have to be sent by mail, else there wouldn't be a need for this thread.

Its a safety precaution for both parties. The only person I know of to do prize give a ways is FDD because of his well known public business.
 

netpirate

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Very good info Zen. Thanks! Yes I agree that the ramifications of unknowingly sending your info would possibly be hazardous. There are many ways to get prizes out and info in without using RIU. It's up in the air and still being brain stormed. Working in the computer field, I know many ways to get info out without being caught. Granted I've never been a target of the dea or feds, but having worked with officers, I think I can handle it. lol.

I like FDD's ways.
 

Kodank Moment

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Agreed. NetPirate can't go to jail. Nor should any other member for that matter. Accept those few. You know who you are.

EDIT: FDD is the shit.
 

funkdocKT

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whatsup netpirate...

hope you had a good NYE...if you want to do a contest it may be best to get sign ups here and then take it to a seperate site (maybe set up a blogspot account strictly for the contest)...that way RIU isnt liable and youre cool as well

let me know if you could use any help...
 

netpirate

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Thats actually a great idea. funk!!! I would love for it to stay with in the RIU family but as it is, there are too many parinoid ppl up on here. With good reason for the most part, but someone (police) who is willing to look at your post on some random .org site more than likely has you pinned already. Working with the P.D, we never had the funds to search sites more over, it never even came up. And trust me, I would have heard about it seeing as I was the Lead PC person there!
 

netpirate

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This is just how easy it is to start with tracking someone down.

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funkdocKT

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PS...still waiting on my christmas present of pics of your septum (face included lol) and pics of your tats

i think a full body shot would satisfy all my queries...lol

feel free to hit the PM

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GrowTech

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Thats actually a great idea. funk!!! I would love for it to stay with in the RIU family but as it is, there are too many parinoid ppl up on here. With good reason for the most part, but someone (police) who is willing to look at your post on some random .org site more than likely has you pinned already. Working with the P.D, we never had the funds to search sites more over, it never even came up. And trust me, I would have heard about it seeing as I was the Lead PC person there!


Why do you always mention how you worked for the police? I don't think that's going to entice many people to enter a contest where a prize may be shipped.
 

Gryphonn

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This is just how easy it is to start with tracking someone down.
*snipped whois and other stuff *
Hey netpirate and all... (oh damn, put on my tinfoil hat. I'm talking to that copgirl...;-):bigjoint:)

EDIT: Sorry, this was supposed to be short. But I've been smoking some really nice buds and my brain is *ALIVE*, and this is a subject dear to my heart...:bigjoint:. So disregard the 'little bit of my background' phrase...

(sorry 'bout the hijack netpirate)

I'm not going to go on an 'I am 1337' rant, but I'll give you a little bit of my background in respect to Information Technology, because I don't want to sound like I'm just blowing hot air with no substance.
First though. I've only been playing the computer game seriously since late 1997. I'd had computer 'experiences' dating back to the late seventies, but nothing worth mentioning really.
I gave up driving trucks in late 1997 (I was 34), went to Uni and started an IT degree in early '98. I fell into what some people call 'the underground' (read the book) almost immediately and by accident. I somewhat serendipitously found myself in a web based 'IRC' chat board. This was early web based chat, not java sandboxes or anything. It was also the first experience I'd had of being able to communicate with multiple people all over the world in near real time. It was also when I realised that the Internet as a whole was going to be huge. I had gotten into computers just as they were exploding in useage all over the planet.

:shock: Little did I know it, but I was becoming a truck driving hippy pothead computer geek.

One particular Texan bloke that hung in this 'chat room' took me under his wing so to speak and introduced me to a few things, such as linux command line tricks, about half a dozen different remote control apps (trojans) that in those days were almost unknown. He introduced me to the best security tools available at the time. I learned about buffer overflows before I could format a word document, or knew what a spreadsheet was.

Anyway, I'm rambling. Suffice to say, my early computing days revolved entirely around computer security and privacy, when privacy on the Internet was actually achievable.

At the start of my second year at this particular university, I was offered part time work at the web development department. I was recommended by one of the university network security staff. You see, I heard about 'Melissa' within a few hours of its release 'in the wild' (I was in the right IRC channel at the right time, but not the porn channel it was released through), and notified the uni security staff of what it was and what it could do. Melissa was the first 'in the wild' 'virus' that could be spread AND executed via email apps such as Eudora, previously considered an impossible medium to transfer and execute viruses. It saved them a potential shitload of email downtime.
By the end of my second year, I was working full time for another division in IT admin/support. I had written a few articles for a US based security focussed ( ;-) hint to the knowing) website. I was even running a computer security and system design business. As I should have figured would happen, I burnt out about three years later.

Anyway, based on the little I still know about compsec...

I would suggest that it would be a very easy task to compile an identity profile of quite a few RIU users/members. If the search scripts were working properly, it would be even easier.

For example, there are innumerable threads that ask questions that in themselves are innocuous, but combined with answers to questions in other threads, could build a nice profile.

It's simple human nature to reveal little things of oneself, or to unwittingly reveal key identifying information. Kevin Mitnick used it extensively when he was hunting down phone numbers to get into computer networks. What's the term?

Ah yes, 'Social Engineering'.

Every time I see a thread about Internet Privacy, or whether people show their grow etc, I think about how in todays Internet, it is almost impossible to maintain privacy. If you have some tech knowledge, and can use certain software ( Proxomitron anyone?), you can almost hide. But in the grand scheme of things, if someone *really* wants to track you down. You can be found.

I've often thought about 'stalking' some random person (purely for research purposes of course ;-) ) who has made about 500 posts, and just check how much identifiable information might be in those 500+ posts. I gave up trying to hide my identity, beyond using a nickname, a long time ago.

If you got this far, thanks for reading :bigjoint:
 
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