Continual problem. + rep for help

lightbox

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So i started 3 seeds, they all broke the surface and got their first set of leaves. Then one by one they died....one after another. They were in solo cups filled with miracle grow. Fed simple water mixed with miracle grow plant food and super thrive root starter. They were brought outside every morning then taken inside once the sun was gone and put under cfl's with out alot of ventilation, actually none at all...could this be the problem, they would only sit there for a few hours. over night then i would bring them outside again....so to recap all that theyd be outside from dawn to dusk put under cfls till about 12 then given 6-7 hours of darkness.

Any advice will be taken thanks guys i really need help!
 

That 5hit

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HOPES SOMETHING IN THIS HELPS

SOIL GROWING BASIC
cherry popping grow technic for indoor soil growing
(get a few grows under your built before jumping into advanced cultivation, learn the basic)bongsmilie

a good location, soil, nutes, lights, and co2 can only take you so far
big buds and good yeilds are based on genes and growing skills


plant life is tipicaly
2wks-1month veg 24/0 or 18/6
2-3 month flower 12/12
4 months (maybe 3) all together from seed to cured smoke


everything can be found at any bigbox store

place seed in a cup of water
check every day untill you see seed crack and or tap root
then place in a 1in deep hole covered with soil, in a 1 gal pot full of soil
now get a digital thermometer, one with a temperature and a humidity gauge
optional items : heater, a/c, dehumidifier
maintain lights on temps of 70-80 (with co2 you can let it go as high as 95)
at lights off stay above 60. keep humidity around 40%-60% light on/off
when you see a sprout
place light (26 or 42 watt CFL 2700k warm with hood and clamp) over it keeping light as close as 2-4 in.
one bulb type can be used from start to finish, but better results can be had by switching bulb color
...........cfl 6500 Kelvin (cool blueish/ white color spectrum) =to mh used for vegging bushing stem leaf
...........cfl 2700 Kelvin (warm redish/orange color spectrum) =to hps used for blooming fruiting budding
as the plant gets bigger add more light (if you use mh or hps follow light distance
guidelines, you'll find out more about them as you advance in you grow skill)
now time for veg growth
get a light with hood (and put it on an on/off timer set timer for 18/6)
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry
after 2 weeks of just plain water introduce nutes at 1/4 strength, every other water
when picking nutes (fertilizer) try to keep it simple npk are the 3 numbers (xx-xx-xx) on the container of fertilizer
for veg pick a nute high in N and low in PK
for flowering pick a nute high in P and slightly lower in K and verylow in N
N: nitrogen is used to stimulate new vegetative growth and overall health.
P2O5: phosphorus oxide is used to stimulate flower development and rooting.
K2O: potassium oxide is used to stimulate stem growth and overall health
a great fert for beginners are any tomato plant fertilizer
inrich air with co2 if you gat it (not needed if less then 6 plants, just open a window or pump in fresh air)
after 2wks too a months of vegging its time to sex and flower
tranpants to a 3-5gal pot
if still useing CFL's double or triple the amount of lights (the more light the more dence and bigger the buds will be)
set timer for 12/12 (depending on strain plants can double even triple in size (height) in this stage)
this will show sex and flower your plants, giving you smokable buds
keep the female's they grow white hairs
discard the males they grow grape like ball clusters (pollen sacs)
discard the hermi they grow both sex (re. if it has balls on it discard it)
give it 2 wks of 12/12 then increase nutes
lights will stay on 12/12 untill finish which could be 8-14 wks depending on strain dominates :
short plant with fat wide leaf = indicas = 8-10 wks,
tall plant with long skiny leaf = sativas = 10-14 wks
by far the best way to tell when the plant is ready to harvest is by looking at the trichome
you want to harvest at about a 40%-50% red to white ratio. you will need a minimum 30x zoom microscope (radio shack)
flush plant by feeding plain water no nutes for last 2 wks (improves taste)
cut, hang, dry 5-7 days @ 40%-50% humidity
smoke
or

cure:
place in mason jars sealed tight for 12hr in a dark place
open jar and take buds out and let dry for 30m to 1hr or untill dry to touch
replace in jars resealed in a dark place
repeat this for 2wks to a month or untill buds nolonger become wet in jar after 12hr
now smoke
or seal away for long term store
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
if i had to guess you over loved them
just give them plain water no nute
like 1 every 4 days or so
sounds like you over watered and over nuted
and just leave them under the cfl
there no real need for them to go outside
 

IAm5toned

Well-Known Member
as TS explained...

They were in solo cups filled with miracle grow. Fed simple water mixed with miracle grow plant food and super thrive root starter.
sounds like the problem...
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
mg is ok
but you have to no how to grow with it
as a matter of fact its great
the main problem with mg is that it is full of nutes
with that shit all you have to do is water the whole grow (almost) and you'll fair fine
 

budforever442200

Well-Known Member
Some people can Grow with MG But i thinks its the downfall to alot of first time growers. And I personaly dont like it. Too Many chems.
 

lightbox

Member
thanks for the replies, im throwing away the plant food lol. What soil do you propose i use? thanks again guys
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
i ues scotts but have use MG
i tipically get whats ever cheapest
it kills me how everyone gets bent out of shape over soil
it doen't matter if your going to feed nute to it anyways you can grow in plain water if your going to add nutes to it

all you have to do is give them water untill the leaf start turnning yellowish light green
then thats the plants telling you they need food with the water
then you start 1/4 strenth nutes
and wait untill the plants till you they need more
same with watering when the plants look thirsty it s time to water and ever other water add nutes
you have to do this with all soil it doesn't matter if it gods gift to grower (fox farm) the devil's dirt (MG) or outside your house soil.

hell you can fucken grow a plant in volcanic glass if you give the plant nutes when it ask for them (really, people grow with this all the time if you need 2 know how just ask )

just dont get caught up in the soil wars everyone ifs for there brand and noone is for MG
but its all dirt with nutes
the medium is not as important as the nutes used there's people that use all type of shit to grow in the only thing that every grow share is
water
nutes
lights

the main job (i would say 95% of it ) of the medium is to hold the plant in place
dress it up how ever you like it its all the same just in differant packages
 

tburton12345

Active Member
MG soil does suck. my plants grew better and faster when sprouted in peat pellets lol. If they were in MG soil which already has nutes in it and you gave them MG fert, especially at full strength, then you just burned the shit out of them and killed them. I did that when i first started lol.
 

budforever442200

Well-Known Member
I Had a friend that got stuck by a syringe digging through a bag of MG. He sued but since he didnt get aids or somthing, they only gave him medical.
 
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