convince me led is worth it.
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G.V
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I'm supposed to be on the ignore list, really was the only reason I even replied to the thread.
Boy cant resist chewing on my leg. Should just ignore it I suppose.
i win...
G.V
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Exactly what I said, and to some extent it was agreed. As I say mate, the boy cant resist. I just reply to thread, then next thing I know I have some nasty little remark.
I'll do me best though.
lukio
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next year key4, imma try oudoors!
G.V
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For the 4th time. Stick to it this time for all our sakes.
ttystikk
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You could do with being a bit less noxious yourself. Takes two to argue. Just sayin'
For the record, I've grown with SE HPS, and both 860W CDM on mag and LFSW, and 315W CMH. They worked well, but nowhere near as well as COB LED.
I'm through growing with bulbs, not only for the energy savings- which is more or less irrelevant for this crop anyway- but for the improvement in quality of the product.
I don't expect this to end any debate, but I did want to add my personal experience to the discussion.
G.V
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I don't want to be at arms with another member, so what I am about to say I say with all due respect. However..
I don't see how I am your chosen target in making your point, personally I think it would have been much wiser to direct to someone whom you speak with regular here, if your goal is peace.
The fact that it was previously agreed several times on threads and by PM that we would ignore each other, and that several times now Lukio has been the one to break that agreement, this means I must be the subject of your point? I have left it be from the off.
Again, with all due respect you have invited yourself into this as it has ended so I think I am fair in replying in kind. You were there last time this happened and I was quoted and mouthed of for no reason whilst just trying to add something to a thread, and once again the agreement was to ignore each other in future. Yet here we are again.
I can not be held responsible for Lukio's inability to not get nasty. If your genuinely trying to add anything positive to help the situation maybe you could PM Lukio and politely tell him I am not worth his time and its best to just leave me be. As I have pleaded from the very beginning.
As for the lighting advice. I will soon be able to judge the quality of high end LED against CDM myself. Rather than argue about I have decided to see for myself how good these Quantum Boards are, and the very next time HLG have some in stock I will order some.
Hit and miss , you get the fluffy phenos like you do indoor and on a year like this year ive lost 70% of my crop so far to mould.We have the Some great companys now making strains . Just do a couple hundred and plan it properly you will get as many boxes as you can be arsed trimming.
The high of outdoor cannot be matched by any artificial light source either. Its balanced.
Off topic but ...
lukio
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G.V
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Ouch mate. I thought a bud or two was a downer.
Piss poor that. I know its common outdoors, mother nature and all that. But Jesus wept. No products aimed at reducing this for outdoor growers yet?
CCCmints
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DIY COB LED starts to become really cost efficient when outfitting a larger space than say a 4'x2' tent since the manufacturers of heat sinks, diodes, drivers, etc. all offer fantastic bulk pricing. When I priced everything out for my 90 COB, 10 fixture design I got the price down to $1/watt.
G.V
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I did get a few prices on bulk heat sinks and cob holders as I couldn't get them in those amounts in the UK anyway, and the price wasn't too bad. Still much higher than what I ended up with, but cheaper than the cost of doing an all QB groom.
For QB it was about £2500 I think, my current setup cost me £1200. And the QB would have used no less wattage annually. So I can only assume the COB's would give me a similar outcome. Although they would without a doubt be cheaper than QB.
CCCmints
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What's your current setup? How much did the heat sinks you use cost per piece? The $1/watt figure is based on a fixture with what I found to be the highest quality components. For instance, the heat sinks I chose for the design would run me $16/pc @ bulk pricing while others gravitate towards cpu coolers or the like which are much, much cheaper.
G.V
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I would welcome any advice on how get the same buds for less wattage.
Room is 3.4 x 2.4. Currently veg under 630w of CMH for 7-9 weeks, then bloom for the average 9-10 weeks using the 630w of CMH and the Two 1000w de Dimlux units.
I don't believe 4 x 4QB units will cover that area very well, so I used the info on HLG and Chilled to gather the amount of QB I would need and came to the conclusion I would need 20 boards in total to cover my area.
I am aware you can turn down the QB's to draw less wattage. But even at 25% the suggested maximum draw according to HLG I would be vegging at 650w. The same as the two CMH.
I know my maths isn't exact. But as I say I welcome your advice.