Cornel West Isn't Impressed With Barack Obama, Either

Padawanbater2

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ain't that somethin.
Yes it is. He employs the exact same tactics he claims to be against

"Critics say that US President Donald Trump has engaged in whataboutism in response to criticism leveled at him, his policies, or his support of controversial world leaders. National Public Radio (NPR) reported, "President Trump has developed a consistent tactic when he's criticized: say that someone else is worse." NPR noted Trump chose to criticize the Affordable Care Act when he himself faced criticism over the proposed American Health Care Act of 2017, "Instead of giving a reasoned defense, he went for blunt offense, which is a hallmark of whataboutism." NPR noted similarities in use of the tactic by Putin and Trump, "it's no less striking that while Putin's Russia is causing the Trump administration so much trouble, Trump nevertheless often sounds an awful lot like Putin".

When criticized or asked to defend his behavior, Trump has frequently changed the subject by criticizing Hillary Clinton, the Obama Administration, and the Affordable Care Act.[4] When asked about Russian human rights violations, Trump has shifted focus to the US itself, employing whataboutism tactics similar to those used by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

After Fox News host Bill O'Reilly and MSNBC host Joe Scarborough called Putin a killer, Trump responded by saying that the US government was also guilty of killing people. Garry Kasparov commented to Columbia Journalism Review on Trump's use of whataboutism: "Moral relativism, 'whataboutism', has always been a favorite weapon of illiberal regimes. For a US president to employ it against his own country is tragic."
 

see4

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Im saying people elect leaders who play the populist rhetoric the best.

Does that explain bulldozing houses because a kid threw a stone and giving the land to occupying Israeli civilians?

It's a land grab to the detriment of the natives and you're gladly complicit.
Israelis face hatred of unseen proportions from all sides. They really have no choice but to be swift in their justice.

Hamas are terrorists. They were elected by the Palestinians in something like 2006 or there abouts... they've been 'terrorizing' ever since.

That being said, there are many many Palestinian civilians that don't share the same ideals as their government. So it's hard to say that ALL Palestinians are bad peeps.
 

see4

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almost like they invaded a land and took it from people who owned it!
East Jerusalem is West Bank. Palestinians took it from Israel. Then Israel took it back in 1967 or so.

And again, Israel faces "extermination" from all sides. What are they to do? Lay down and be exterminated?
 

see4

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I agree that Israel is a bit excessive with their position towards Palestinian civilians. However, when faced from all sides, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Jordan, Afghanistan, etc all want you dead, you sort of don't give a fuck who you hurt as long as it's not yourself.

I know that if you were Isreal, you'd long be dead. Because you'd lay down.
 

trippnface

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East Jerusalem is West Bank. Palestinians took it from Israel. Then Israel took it back in 1967 or so.

And again, Israel faces "extermination" from all sides. What are they to do? Lay down and be exterminated?

Did you learn that propaganda in school, or did your parents teach you that?
 

see4

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Did you learn that propaganda in school, or did your parents teach you that?
No, Captain Tiny Dick, the guy I build guns with is Israeli. In fact his family just got back from an Israel vacation a couple months ago. We talk about what's going on over there all the time.

Oh and your tiny dick is super duper tiny.

Oh and...
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Facts hurt your feelings.
 

Padawanbater2

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I agree that Israel is a bit excessive with their position towards Palestinian civilians. However, when faced from all sides, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Jordan, Afghanistan, etc all want you dead, you sort of don't give a fuck who you hurt as long as it's not yourself.

I know that if you were Isreal, you'd long be dead. Because you'd lay down.
International law after worldwide atrocities has determined nothing justifies killing civilians
 

trippnface

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I agree that Israel is a bit excessive with their position towards Palestinian civilians. However, when faced from all sides, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Jordan, Afghanistan, etc all want you dead, you sort of don't give a fuck who you hurt as long as it's not yourself.

I know that if you were Isreal, you'd long be dead. Because you'd lay down.
No, Captain Tiny Dick, the guy I build guns with is Israeli. In fact his family just got back from an Israel vacation a couple months ago. We talk about what's going on over there all the time.

Oh and your tiny dick is super duper tiny.

Oh and...
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Facts hurt your feelings.

Oh, right on.

Obviously, the go to source of information in the israeli palestinian conflict, should be from an israeli .

Definitely not biased at all.
 

trippnface

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No, Captain Tiny Dick, the guy I build guns with is Israeli. In fact his family just got back from an Israel vacation a couple months ago. We talk about what's going on over there all the time.

Oh and your tiny dick is super duper tiny.

Oh and...
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Facts hurt your feelings.
That image proves my point.

The Zionist terror state is illegally occupying Palestine.
 

abandonconflict

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I think I will take Einsteins word over yours, yeah?

https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948

"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."

"It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."

"a terrorist, right-wing"

"right-wing"
Then maybe read it, ya dingus.

Too many dumbfucks like you want to voice an opinion but clearly can't read. Also, WELCOME NEW DUMB ASS MEMBER.
 

abandonconflict

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That's way too much context for drippnface's IQ level, but I found it helpful. Thank you!
Did you see it quote Einstein and insist that the quote somehow supports its argument? I am still laughing, I have no idea how to respond. Usually trolls offer a little bit of a challenge but I'm dumbfounded by the unrepentant stupidity of this one.
 
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