Could My Subscription to High Times Magazine Get Me Busted?

Rob Roy

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You would be right if this was a prefect world. Unfortunately, this is no utopia.
The premise is right. It's not about whether I'm right or not. If I disagreed with the premise, then I'd be wrong. Utopia has little to do with this, the point I'm making is what matters is what is intrinsically right or wrong. Majority opinions do not confer "being right" on something intrinsically wrong.
 

Rob Roy

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I'm a US Citizen. We rule ourselves at the County level, vote for representation in Congress and our State picks the President.

you've confused tyranny of the majority* for self rule.


*majority rule often isn't even a majority of voters. Not to mention, realistically the person you vote for represents a bogus "choice" .
Also a majority of people voting for something doesn't cause something to be correct or true.
 

Rob Roy

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Hey, Yeti. I have a movie for you. Not the best movie. But, I like movies that illustrate what can happen when authority vanishes.

The Walking Dead is running a good example right now. Next season starts soon. The Postman. Another example of what happens when your hated people in charge flee or or wiped out, etc. A Nightmare, ensues.

This is called Doomsday. Bob Hoskins and a few other names.

Plague zone. Govt panics, evacuates and builds a wall. There is always hierarchy. And with hierarchy comes warlord or self rule, that is it. The Warlords here are the Ultra violent skinhead punks that managed to survive.

You've completely avoided the issue of what happens when authority is centralized in a monopoly held together by force.

You should also put away the popcorn and the grade b videos and consider reading something a bit more meaningful.

Hierarchy held together by force? You can have it...oh wait, it already exists but your white cane and black glasses keeps you from calling it what it is.
 

schuylaar

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The Feds told him they knew about his posts on this site when he got busted.

I know the bust directly had nothing to do with this site. It was setup outside of this site.

The fact that they knew about the site and his posts without seizing his computer is what worries me.
can it be when you google your user name all the posts from here show up?..and how do we turn that off?
 

schuylaar

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whoa, i'd be fucked, mine is 129..

EDIT: testing is used religiously and routinely everywhere..caliper..mcquag..i worked as C-store GM for Amerada Hess for a year, long ago..my host GM who I was auditing told me that our direct manager told him I scored the highest they've ever seen however, surely out of their typical ranges of the perfect "GM"..case in point..I was gone one year later I was so fucking bored..too long hours..not enough money..
 

Rob Roy

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such as???

You've indicated support for programs that use threats of violence to ensure full compliance such as Obamacare.

Your avatar shows support for Hillary. If it is an accurate portrayal of your political leanings, I'd say you believe that government force is a good thing.
 

schuylaar

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You've indicated support for programs that use threats of violence to ensure full compliance such as Obamacare.

Your avatar shows support for Hillary. If it is an accurate portrayal of your political leanings, I'd say you believe that government force is a good thing.
please enlighten me..
 

Doer

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The premise is right. It's not about whether I'm right or not. If I disagreed with the premise, then I'd be wrong. Utopia has little to do with this, the point I'm making is what matters is what is intrinsically right or wrong. Majority opinions do not confer "being right" on something intrinsically wrong.
Ah finally I see it. You are not making that point. You are only proposing it.

You are switching the argument to religion, and personal morals and ethics. Right and Wrong. You are trying to make the point that you can say there is an absolute right and wrong. Not for you to say. So, I reject and otherwise stamp upon the point you fail to make.

The majority is not trying to make what is right and wrong. And I seriously hope you see this reality.

WE say what we want. WE say what we don't want. ONLY.

In your morality play is this clear for you now? NO RIGHT AND WRONG in the Constitution, boy, are you confused.

Only the WILL of the People.

Now the common knowledge is right from wrong, or good from bad. But I will help you by saying it is much more simple.

Is it OK or not? Vet that according to the laws that reflect the Will of the Majority. See, if you don't like it, that is neither right nor wrong, either. Better now?

If you thought that was what this USA is about, no wonder.
 

Doer

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Intrinsic Right vs Worng is oxymoronic.

The best we have are cetain in-aleinable and self evident, personal Rights to the extent of our skin. Most of your rights end where mine begin.

n·trin·sic (
n-tr
n
z
k, -s
k)adj.1. Of or relating to the essential nature of a thing; inherent.

So, while we have intrinsic RIGHTS. There no such thing as intrinsically correct behavior for humans.
 

Doer

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please enlighten me..
If you trolling, don't bother. :) Please enlighten me as to how this can possible go past you.

WE are not enforce right and wrong here. WE are enforcing our WILL. Right now that is Obamacare, and the IRS and
lawyers, guns and money. What's not to understand?
 

schuylaar

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If you trolling, don't bother. :) Please enlighten me as to how this can possible go past you.

WE are not enforce right and wrong here. WE are enforcing our WILL. Right now that is Obamacare, and the IRS and
lawyers, guns and money. What's not to understand?
me, trolling?..this comment was directed to Rob Roy as he is accusing me of something, even though he does not know me..it took all of about 10 posts before this thread turned political..

FTW..my trolling efforts are limited to my avatar and they alone create the desired effect without even word one:smile:..have a nice day!
 

Doer

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me, trolling?..this comment was directed to Rob Roy as he is accusing me of something, even though he does not know me..it took all of about 10 posts before this thread turned political..

FTW..my trolling efforts are limited to my avatar and they alone create the desired effect without even word one:smile:..have a nice day!
I was just commenting on the use of force question, yeti seems to be stuck on. He think the majority is trying to force our definition of right and wrong on him.

Actually, our WILL is that he does not enforce his morality on us. :)

You do understand the use of force in Obamacare.
 

Rob Roy

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please enlighten me..

Sure and thanks for asking nicely. Am I correct that you support a mandatory government policy known as Obamacare? What happens to people that do not comply? Does government use some or several forms of force against them? I think they do. Ultimately if a peaceful person wishing to be left alone does not comply....force is applied.

Congratulations you are now enlightened. Please go and do good now.
 

Rob Roy

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Intrinsic Right vs Worng is oxymoronic.

The best we have are cetain in-aleinable and self evident, personal Rights to the extent of our skin. Most of your rights end where mine begin.

n·trin·sic (
n-tr
n
z
k, -s
k)adj.1. Of or relating to the essential nature of a thing; inherent.

So, while we have intrinsic RIGHTS. There no such thing as intrinsically correct behavior for humans.

WHAT??? No correct behavior?...and my mom always taught me to put my napkin in my lap while seated at a nice restaurant. The poor little old lady is gonna freak when I tell her she might have been wrong.


There is such a thing as correct behavior. It is as simple as minding our own business and not minding our neighbors....geez...my moms gonna have to teach you about the non-initiation of aggression principle.
 

Rob Roy

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I was just commenting on the use of force question, yeti seems to be stuck on. He think the majority is trying to force our definition of right and wrong on him.

Actually, our WILL is that he does not enforce his morality on us. :)

You do understand the use of force in Obamacare.
Almost. You have it sideways. Maybe you should clean your pipe of that shitty resin and smoke some more sativa.

I'm reacting in a rational defensive way, which isn't enforcing my morality on others, it's an attempt to PREVENT others from forcefully using their IMMORALITY against me and anybody else that embraces peaceful and consensual interactions.

No doubt, I'm stuck on the use of force, because in POLITICS it is the key ingredient. One of my missions here is to keep that front and center. Thanks for recognizing my consistency.
 

Doer

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Smary angry and defensive, cracker.

Simply a personal problem where life if too intense. Neurosis.

I only smoke fresh bowls in clean bowls and only of satvia. All day. Every day.

Got some YogiD right here, right now. Inside.
(since it is none of your business)

So, you can knock off the lashing out with passive aggressive, go soak your head, stuff and realize you are simply making my point. Rude and uncalled for, and yet your motive is suppose to excuse all that harmful anger and lashing out.

Not harmful to me, brother. To you. Brain fear. You are the tormented minority, in your mind.
 
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