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DustyTHc

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How is money, money?
Isn't All Paper Money Counterfeit? think about it. The public (Us, The People) Didn't create money. We Didn't say hey look lets use this as money. They Told Us Hey Look this is money. So does that in a way make it not money. lol There's no real money besides gold and silver. Money is a way to control the world. How can it have value? we cannot make it , eat it , drink it , use it ,buy it, sell it or grow it. so how does it have value.
 
Microdizzey

Microdizzey

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DustyTHc said:
How is money, money?
Isn't All Paper Money Counterfeit? think about it. The public (Us, The People) Didn't create money. We Didn't say hey look lets use this as money. They Told Us Hey Look this is money. So does that in a way make it not money. lol There's no real money besides gold and silver. Money is a way to control the world. How can it have value? we cannot make it , eat it , drink it , use it ,buy it, sell it or grow it. so how does it have value.
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Paper money has value only because the government says it does. As soon as they want to drop it, which isn't such a farce, it will become completely useless.

90%+ of the US wealth is in computers. The majority of the global economy is in computers as well. It's simply data, nothing more. It's only a matter of time until the world stops using paper currency completely.

Anything can be used as money. When you're selling something someone wants to buy, it gains value. Why the hell are we using paper?
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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DustyTHc said:
How is money, money?
Isn't All Paper Money Counterfeit? think about it. The public (Us, The People) Didn't create money. We Didn't say hey look lets use this as money. They Told Us Hey Look this is money. So does that in a way make it not money. lol There's no real money besides gold and silver. Money is a way to control the world. How can it have value? we cannot make it , eat it , drink it , use it ,buy it, sell it or grow it. so how does it have value.
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Paper Money is only valuable through the threat of the use of force if people decline to accept it as "money" made by the government under the name, "Legal Tender Laws."

Why any one actually needs "Legal Tender" Laws is beyond me. If Microdizzey, you or myself choose to accept Marijuana in return for goods or services or anything else that ultimately is not the governments business, nor should it be their concern.
 
Microdizzey

Microdizzey

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Paper Money is only valuable through the threat of the use of force if people decline to accept it as "money" made by the government under the name, "Legal Tender Laws."

Why any one actually needs "Legal Tender" Laws is beyond me. If Microdizzey, you or myself choose to accept Marijuana in return for goods or services or anything else that ultimately is not the governments business, nor should it be their concern.
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Life would be so much better if we could barter with goods instead of using paper money. People would work for real things. Produce real wholesome product for others to buy. Sell the product for materials that you find valuable at the time.

Must be fun to be a farmer. :weed:
 
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DustyTHc

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Paper Money is only valuable through the threat of the use of force if people decline to accept it as "money" made by the government under the name, "Legal Tender Laws."

Why any one actually needs "Legal Tender" Laws is beyond me. If Microdizzey, you or myself choose to accept Marijuana in return for goods or services or anything else that ultimately is not the governments business, nor should it be their concern.
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Someone who actually thinks like me. :D if only we can just abandon money and get the rest of the world to do the same. everything would be so much better. and not only with marijuana, with everything. I'll build you a car if you build me a house. lol. Basic idea. something for something. Not pieces of worthless paper for hours of dreadful work and time.
 
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DustyTHc

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Microdizzey said:
Life would be so much better if we could barter with goods instead of using paper money. People would work for real things. Produce real wholesome product for others to buy. Sell the product for materials that you find valuable at the time.

Must be fun to be a farmer. :weed:
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Exactly :peace:
 
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Growgetem

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DustyTHc said:
How is money, money?
Isn't All Paper Money Counterfeit? think about it. The public (Us, The People) Didn't create money. We Didn't say hey look lets use this as money. They Told Us Hey Look this is money. So does that in a way make it not money. lol There's no real money besides gold and silver. Money is a way to control the world. How can it have value? we cannot make it , eat it , drink it , use it ,buy it, sell it or grow it. so how does it have value.
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I always though its basicly checks that our government prints, i thought our wealth is measured in our gold at fort knox hell i dont know, pretty soon the dollar wont be worth the paper its printed on literally!!!
 
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Growgetem

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Paper Money is only valuable through the threat of the use of force if people decline to accept it as "money" made by the government under the name, "Legal Tender Laws."

Why any one actually needs "Legal Tender" Laws is beyond me. If Microdizzey, you or myself choose to accept Marijuana in return for goods or services or anything else that ultimately is not the governments business, nor should it be their concern.
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without a doubt and i think thats one reason why weed isnt legal, i already pay my landscaper, pool guy, and this one dude that maintains my boat, all want stash not cash!!!
 
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Growgetem

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i also traded some for sex one time! but thats another issue, the sex and weed were both really good, weed lasted alot longer i bet LOL
 
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ilkhan

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Paying people in weed is more legit then paying in half ass paper bullshit. Paper is supposed to be a receit for gold that is how paper started. Gold has real value it is a ligitimate store of wealth. Weed has real value.

(Noticed tonight on Adult swim the people who buy your gold through the mail, you know the guys? Anyway, they are paying 20% more until july 4th 20% above market?? WTF that tells me someone is fixing gold prices, demand is way more then the price.)

Anyway, We call federal reserve notes dollars, they arn't. A dollar is supposed to be like 1/20th of an ounce of gold or one ounce of silver. By-metalic system was kinda messed up/confussing. I would like to see a dollar be 1 gram of gold. We used silver until the banksters off'ed JFK they wanted to have total control of the creation of money. Silver works well also. I would like to see something like the Free Lakota Bank with competing currancies.

Paper money allows central bankers to time the markets, They can scientificly create bubbles. And if you know when the bubbles are gonna happen you can make fat loot, buy up all the hard assets, factories, farms, corperations in general. If your one of the chosen ones that is. Its also great for politicians who like to be seen doing something because they know the FED will always be there to cut them a check for all there pet projects. Thats how we get 11 trillion dollars in debt and the government can lose, just flat lose trillions out of the Pentagon.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml

These people don't give a shit they can just print more that why our money has lost 95% of its value since 1913. That means when you save money its losing value, you have to invest it (and risk loseing it) just for it to maintain buying power. Hell pot is smarter then paper anyday.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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ilkhan said:
We call federal reserve notes dollars, they arn't. A dollar is supposed to be like 1/20th of an ounce of gold or one ounce of silver.
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The term "Dollar" is a term of measurement, just like a pint, quart or gallon.

Technically, when someone tells you, for example, that the price of something is "three dollars," the right response should be: "Three dollars of what?"

It would be the very same if someone said: "I want two pints and two quarts." You're response would be: "two pints and two quarts of what," right?

Its the same with money ... when someone says: That will be three dollars, please," we should say: "three dollars of what?" Their response in return should be: "Three of the smallest federal reserve notes, please." Or, three dollars of silver. Or three dollars of gold. Or three dollars of weed. :)

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TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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ViRedd said:
The term "Dollar" is a term of measurement, just like a pint, quart or gallon.

Technically, when someone tells you, for example, that the price of something is "three dollars," the right response should be: "Three dollars of what?"

It would be the very same if someone said: "I want two pints and two quarts." You're response would be: "two pints and two quarts of what," right?

Its the same with money ... when someone says: That will be three dollars, please," we should say: "three dollars of what?" Their response in return should be: "Three of the smallest federal reserve notes, please." Or, three dollars of silver. Or three dollars of gold. Or three dollars of weed. :)

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1 Dollar = 1/20 of an OZ of Gold

1 FRN = 1/20 of an OZ


:: wonders if that means he can get 1 OZ of water and demand $20 from a bank ::

I mean, wouldn't that be technically feasible under the current definition of a dollar as a measurement of "something"

1 Dollar = 1 Oz of Silver

1 Dollar = 1 Oz and 1/20 of an OZ???

but if a Dollar is 1 Oz AND 1/20th of an OZ isn't that technically impossible?

The government has screwed the American people by separating the measure (1 Oz | 1/20 Oz) from the commodity (Silver | Gold).

1 Oz or 1/20th of an Oz does no one any good if what commodity is being measured is not mentioned.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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The money of account for the United States is gold and/or silver coin ... Article I, Sec 8.

So, the next time a clerk includes a sales tax in your bill, just say ... "I haven't been issued any gold or silver coin, so I cannot pay the sales tax on this bill." When asked to just pay in Federal Reserve Notes, just add: "Are Federal Reserve Notes the money of account for the state of (insert your state)?

Here in California, the state constitution, Article III, states that the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land. So, in considering Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, how in the world can I pay my California sales tax in Federal Reserve notes and still be in compliance with the California constitution?

Its a moral dilemma I tells ya ... a moral dilemma! :lol:

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medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
The money of account for the United States is gold and/or silver coin ... Article I, Sec 8.

So, the next time a clerk includes a sales tax in your bill, just say ... "I haven't been issued any gold or silver coin, so I cannot pay the sales tax on this bill." When asked to just pay in Federal Reserve Notes, just add: "Are Federal Reserve Notes the money of account for the state of (insert your state)?

Here in California, the state constitution, Article III, states that the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land. So, in considering Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, how in the world can I pay my California sales tax in Federal Reserve notes and still be in compliance with the California constitution?

Its a moral dilemma I tells ya ... a moral dilemma! :lol:

Vi
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Just like you Redd, start shit with a poor sales clerk. What an arogant ass.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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medicineman said:
Just like you Redd, start shit with a poor sales clerk. What an arogant ass.
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Well, did you finally wake up, Med? :lol:

Hey, with General Motors about to lay off 21,000 workers, eliminating brands and closing dealerships, tell us again how unions are in the corner of the American worker.

Vi
 
joepro

joepro

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During WW II, the nazi high command developed many plans to destabilze and thus weaken all of its allied enemies. One plan that was developed, initiated but never successfully implement was code named "OPERATION BERNHARD". The plan was to counterfeit millions of dollars in British pound notes, smuggle in the counterfeit notes hoping the poorer British population would then unwittingly help destabilize the British Economy by using the "found" loot in everyday commerce. "Operation Bernhard" was named after its assigned SS Leader, Major Bernhard Krueger. The forgers were Jewish and other Concentration Camp Internees, who were expert printers, artisans and developers. They would be the ones to design and mass produce the forged notes. After which they would all be executed to cover any traces of the operational plans of proof.
British Pound Notes up to the denomination of 50 Pounds were counterfeited as it was believed that any denomination higher would draw attention and thus expose the plan.
The plan was carried out only once, but there was never a sufficient way devised to introduce the forgeries into the british economy in sufficient quantity. As I recall, they did air drop a crate of counterfeited notes that landed on a farm in the countryside section of England. the package ever opened up and the farmer reported the crate.
Before wars end, vast sums of the forged notes were submerged in a lake in Norway.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
Well, did you finally wake up, Med? :lol:

Hey, with General Motors about to lay off 21,000 workers, eliminating brands and closing dealerships, tell us again how unions are in the corner of the American worker.

Vi
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The unions got fucked, as usual. Money talks and workers walk. Should make you happy though, 21,000 unemployed union workers. Happy days are here again, EH Redd?
 
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