Crazy bug infestation. Anyone seen this before?

Discussion in 'Bugs' started by jondoughnutz, May 12, 2016.

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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    I dunno what your issue is, man. We're all friends here.
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    RM3, I have respect for, and I like his "fringe" style growing. Ben's a bit racist, but I've no direct issue with him. Testiclees and I have had a brief row before. Buck's a cool guy. I dunno Church.

    I "hide" my info, because growing is, as I've stated before, "frowned upon" where I live, and that's putting it lightly, so pardon me if I don't present myself.
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    And I definitely am not negative, I try to be as objective as possible.
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    By the way, I feel so special to be a pain in two asses at once, while everyone else only gets one. Thank you.
     
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    pookat

    pookat Well-Known Member

    @jondoughnutz ......Now you know what happens when you get a Crazy Bug Infestation......
     
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    SPLFreak808

    SPLFreak808 Well-Known Member

    Hope you figure it out whatever it is. Stole these from google.
    White flies
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    Aphids
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    aphidLarva.jpg
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    Get a scope and take a good look!

    *edit, just took another look. That Definetly looks like aphids and not WF eggs. Just make sure before buying random treatments
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    Hey, guys, I'm going to back out and leave this between you, so hope you'll forgive me. This has escalated a bit above what I intended to work with here. Don't kill each other. Much love.
     
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    pookat

    pookat Well-Known Member

    Also did you know that Venus fly traps are good for crazy bug infestations too, they arnt sensitive enough to catch white fly, i found the old fall back of fly paper is real good at geting the adults.
    But thats another story....
     
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    rollitup

    rollitup Forum Admin Staff Member

    Pardon me, the OP said he has a "crazy bug infestation,"

    Not bug everyone with crazy shit. :lol:

    :mrgreen:
     
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    Allan421

    Allan421 Member

    I like your knock down plan and IPM. I don't understand how butter made with this will be any better than smoking it. I would do neither.
     
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    Allan421

    Allan421 Member

    Aphids molt multiple times and I think that what looks like whiteflies is old skins. They also will produce winged young when the food runs low.
     
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    Nutes and Nugs

    Nutes and Nugs Well-Known Member

    I'm going with aphids but this is why
    you don't visit your grow after being outside.

    Cutting the lawn or checking your outdoor veg garden
    just brushing up against a infected outdoor plant can raise hell indoors.
     
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    GandalfdaGreen

    GandalfdaGreen Well-Known Member

    Goddamn. That's cool as hell having a devil's coachman. I'd be afraid to go in the damn room with a bunch of them. They are mean looking things.

    I f'in hate bugs that hurt our crops.
     
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    pookat

    pookat Well-Known Member

    Once watched it drag a mouse away.....not really, fist time i saw it i was bare foot wondered what the black thing was got about a yard away....it curled it tail and came at me, never thought i'd jump in fright from a wee Beastie 1 1/2"+, scared the crap outta me.....am gonna be having sleepless nights again.
    got 2 now, well for the moment, one flew in a few day back hopefully gonna mate, if they have babies i'll post you some!!!!!
     
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    Uberknot

    Uberknot Well-Known Member


    good luck! "Devil’s Coach Horse mate in autumn and a female will lay a single egg two to three weeks later in a damp, dark habitat such as leaf litter or moss."
     
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    pookat

    pookat Well-Known Member

    Cooool, Better check the old pot mix tub, one egg? thought i might have to build a stable for them lol
    Cheers Uberknot i wondered about that, got plenty of spagnum moss outside in the woods
     
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    jondoughnutz

    jondoughnutz Member

    They are definitely root aphids. They are a species of aphid that attacks the roots and also the bottoms of leaves. They look different at different life stages so they are hard to identify. After that harvest I tried to fight them but they wouldn't completely go away so I tossed everything and cleaned everything and started over from seed.

    I moved from Michigan to Colorado last year and let me tell you, I have had more problems in a year growing in Colorado than 6 years in Michigan. In Michigan I always started from seed and no one else was really growing.
     
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    jondoughnutz

    jondoughnutz Member

    In Colorado I made the mistake of getting clones from dispensaries and other growers. I believe Colorado has super bugs because any bugs that you get on a clone have ancestors that have fought grueling battles with every pest control treatment in existence. Especially the dispensaries. Moral of the story...
    GROW FROM SEED!! NEVER BUY CLONES FROM A DISPENSARY!! Also I did some research and some shit called met 52 is supposed to be organic black death for root aphids do I'm gonna have a bottle on hand in case they ever come back
     
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    dannyboy602

    dannyboy602 Well-Known Member

    sorry doc but the leaf pictured was covered with aphids not whitefly...females and males look different. Juveniles and adults look different...here's a diagram....
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    the whitefly looking thing is actually a male aphid. The black scale like insect on the same leaf is also an aphid.
    Aphids are some of the easiest insects to eradicate. In IPM (Integrated Pest Management) we don't use the most toxic measure and work our way to the least toxic one, its the other way around...use the insecticidal soap first then the oil sprays and never use imidicloprid on a crop that you plan on ingesting and shouldn't be used indoors anyway. Read the label. Its a systemic so its drenched into the soil and taken up through the plants vascular system. I have never sprayed imidicloprid and had a sprayers license for 4yrs in PA.
    First thing to do OP is use a garden hose and knock those guys off, its pretty easy. Do it every day for about a week. That way any eggs that remain will hatch and be knocked off when they hatch You can also use alcohol pads and just wipe down the leaves since you said you only had a few leaves infected anyway...you'll find piercing and sucking insects at the tops of the plant most bc the soft leaf tissue is easier for them to get their mouth parts into. Oil sprays like Neem or whatever hort oil you're using work well but don't work on eggs.. Spray in the morning outdoors and in temps lower than 90F. The rate should be about 1% oil to 99% water unless its premixed.
    Pyrethrin comes from the Chrysanthemum flower and is safe to use on Cannabis and indoors as well.

    Here's a pic of whiteflies...you can see that the whitefly pictured and the white male aphid in the OP's pic are pretty different.
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    Hope that helps.
     
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    dannyboy602

    dannyboy602 Well-Known Member

    true dat...also if ur growing in soil there are lots of species of insect eggs given to you free of charge in the bags of soil you buy
     
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