Crazy V-ScrOG CFL grow idea?

Hey guys, I kinda had a crazy idea about a "hypothetical" growing project,lol, more like a hobby kinda thing (I get bored). It has limited space so I was thinking of ways to optimize the space for a higher yield from about one to three plants.

The dimensions would be: Height- 33", Length- 13", Width- 12.5"

It's more or less a cabinet, thinking about being stealthy. Anyhoots, I was thinking, I have seen V-ScrOG systems with the light placed in the center of the plants, forcing them to grow through the screen placed between them and the light, and filling the screen. Now, I don't know if this has ever been done before, probably has, but I was thinking, maybe one could do the same thing except inversely, if that makes sense. I drew this up to kinda give an idea.


I've never grown before, but I've been studying and reading up on it alot lately (it's kinda become an obsession), so if anyone can help me out with some input so I can put together a thorough plan, that would be much appreciated.

I also wanted to get some info on N-P-K ratios that are good for the different stages (i.e. vegetative, flowering).

Peace...

Some One Please answer this I am in the same kinda boat and you pretty much nailed the same kinda space and setup I was looking for. Seems like a good plan to me, but im no expert

i think that would work, although the lights need to be adjustable so you can move them as foliage develops. also think you need more than 4 florescents, not the regular shop lights, T5's. give it a shot, it looks like a really cool idea

This has been done before, I think its even in the rollitup GrowFAQ.

Where in the GrowFAQ is it? I can't find it.

I really want this to work, cause if it does, theoretically I should get the yield of a six or seven foot plant from an 18"x28" screen. If anyone has done this before please let me know how this should get up and running.

I was planning on using either 18" or 24" T12's, I want to stay fluorescent for monetary reasons. Should I try to use CFL's instead?

Thanx

You know I've seen this setup before on a larger scale, but the lights were in the middle and was surounded by 2 or 4 plants weved like a scrog, really cool looking.

The light was placed in the middle in a cool tube to maximize coverage.

I also have seen those kinds of set-ups, V-ScrOG or vertical screen of green. I was thinking if it were to be done inversely, with lights surrounding it and one plant trained in a spiral around the screen, growing outward, it would take care of a couple issues with stealth growers. If one were to use an 18"x 28" screen wrapped into a cylinder with a 6" diameter, first it would solve the problem of adjusting the lighting distance since they are outside, rather than inside, of the screen cylinder, one could even put one inside too. Secondly, if one had space issues, they could grow one plant and utilize the screen space (i.e. using the spiral shape) and get a higher yield despite the small space, let me explain:

If one were using an 18"x28" screen as mentioned before, the circumference would be 28". Since they would be training the one plant in the spiral shape, each time the plant made it completely around the screen would be equivalent to 28" of vertical growth, give or take. With the 18" tall screen, one could make 2 1/2 to 3 coils around the screen, allowing about 5"-6" between coils. With this set-up, theoretically, the plant would be equivalent to a 5 1/2' to 6' plant in a 3' or 4' tall area, and thusly increasing the yields.

If anyone finds any holes in my logic or set-up, please let me know and help me out. I really think this could be useful to personal "hobby" growers with limited space and stealth issues.

It would be an interesting experiment but let me make sure I understand it you want to surround one plant with several florescent lights and than let it grow around a screen to shorten its hight and increase light to the entire plant thus increasing yield. The only problem I have you are still left growing a plant that is 5 - 6 feet tall and that takes some time about 5 months. I have always used the scrog and sog method to decrease veg time be using more plants. Its an interesting idea but I don't think it would be the most efficient use of growing technology but it would be an interesting experiment to watch. DO you have any plans to conduct this setup or is it just an idea.

I am thinking about doing it after I practice the basics a couple times, know what I'm dealing with, since I've never grown before. As far as getting a 5' to 6' equivalent plant, I was using the larger size as an extreme, so as to better get my point across. Even if one just lets it grow around once (one full coil) thats a 28" equivalent. No matter how many times it coils around one is still using less space growing horizontally as opposed to vertically.

I was wondering though, would coiling the plant be to stressful? I don't see much difference between that and other LST, but who knows.

stenkonia said:

Where in the GrowFAQ is it? I can't find it.

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Ok I was wrong, It was on another cultivation forum I visit. I'm pretty sure this is similiar to what you plan, except for a few differences. Heres the link
C-SCROG (Circular SCROG) Instructions - GrowKind.com Marijuana Cultivation Forum.

Yeah, that set-up is very much like my idea, but it looks like he's training the plant in multiple directions. I plan on training in one direction in a spiral, thinking that if it grows in one direction it will be less chaotic looking and make it easier to identify specific sections of the plant, maybe it doesn't need to be more organized, I don't know.

on the final coil i would top the plant and let those grow though the top of the cylinder

Look at this grow

i say go for it, it seems like a logical idea. Good luck trying to keep it organized though