Creating Pest Management Program

phudson

Member
I wanted to start a thread on the topic of preventing bugs from ever appearing on plants. I have been thinking about this for a while now and have done a ton of reading on the topic and I have a few ideas.

First, I am planning on treating my mother plants with Azamax every other week thoroughly foliar spraying. I am also going to water the plants with water treated with mosquito dunks to prevent any soil born bugs from developing. This should keep my clones "clean".

Second, after getting a rooted cutting and planting it in a 4" pot, I plan on letting them grow treatment free for a few weeks due to their tenderness. Once they are ready to be transplanted to a 6" pot I will again treat (dunk the entire plant) them with Azamax and then again before they go into my flower room. I will continue to do my watering with mosquito dunk treated water to prevent soil bugs.

Lastly, I am planning on treating all plants in the flower room with Azamax by foliar spraying every other week till about 4 weeks through flower.

This leaves a gap of 4 weeks where the plants will not be treated and susceptible to attack by bugs which makes me feel uneasy. I have had battles with spider mites and thrips and I can tell you its brutal so I would like to avoid this.

Does anyone have any ideas. I have been thinking about a systemic strategically timed. For example, if the systemic provided 4 weeks of protection I could apply it 2 and a half weeks through flower giving me a week and a half of flush time before harvest.

Does anyone have a pest management program they have used with success?? I would really like to come up with something comprehensive to take care of all insects threatening my garden.

I have been researching Bayer Tree and Shrub containing Imidacloprid. It says that it feeds the plant though, I don't think I want that. I just want the plant protection part. Does anyone have any experience with this product?

Summary

- looking for pest management routine

- have some ideas

- looking for advice from someone with experience


Thank you in advance to all who contribute to this thread.
 

nuera59

Well-Known Member
I myself are fighting the super mites at the minute and my kryptonite is Plant vitality + 125ml (£15),I'm hitting the trees every other day during the initial outbreak (now).
I've got a hot shot no pest strip on it's way from the us, hopefully be here within a few days, this apparently last for 4 months and is supposed to be the bollox! it's just a small free standing plastic unit. no more than a few bucks for your last 4-6 weeks that you was worried about!
sorry to bang on but in veg or beginning of flower , WHEN the fuckers have pissed of I will start using my advanced nutrients genius neem oil and my B'cuzz 2 part disease and pest killer alternating every 5 to 6 days.
And generally be alot more tidy and clean around the area!
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stilljonzen

Well-Known Member
Yes, the chemical you are asking about is one of the best on the market (imidacloprid). It has a good residual. Also it is micro-incapsulated, after it is applied microscopic beads form. When an insect comes in contact with the incapsulated beads it burts or will stick to the insect. Once they come in contavt it is a matter of ours. Buy br proactive and starting treatment early you should be ok. I reccommend you not treat 2-4 weeks before flowering finishs-good luck stay safe
 

phudson

Member
I myself are fighting the super mites at the minute and my kryptonite is Plant vitality + 125ml (£15),I'm hitting the trees every other day during the initial outbreak (now).
I've got a hot shot no pest strip on it's way from the us, hopefully be here within a few days, this apparently last for 4 months and is supposed to be the bollox! it's just a small free standing plastic unit. no more than a few bucks for your last 4-6 weeks that you was worried about!
sorry to bang on but in veg or beginning of flower , WHEN the fuckers have pissed of I will start using my advanced nutrients genius neem oil and my B'cuzz 2 part disease and pest killer alternating every 5 to 6 days.
And generally be alot more tidy and clean around the area!
bump thread
This has been my main problem. I have been reacting to problems when they appear but I really want to take a more proactive approach so that I completely avoid these problems. When I had a spider mite infestation I tried everything with no success. I finally ordered floramite. Haven't seen one since the product is amazing. The mites were literally hanging from the plant, dead. Like I say though, I don't want to see these little bastards in the first place.

Thank you for your input
 

phudson

Member
Yes, the chemical you are asking about is one of the best on the market (imidacloprid). It has a good residual. Also it is micro-incapsulated, after it is applied microscopic beads form. When an insect comes in contact with the incapsulated beads it burts or will stick to the insect. Once they come in contavt it is a matter of ours. Buy br proactive and starting treatment early you should be ok. I reccommend you not treat 2-4 weeks before flowering finishs-good luck stay safe
Thank you for responding. I was really hoping that there was a product like this. Do you use this product yourself? Do you have any other products you use on a schedule to prevent bugs??? Anyone else with experience feel free to add to this discussion.
 

robert 14617

Well-Known Member
clean work and grow environments are a must , i use beneficial bacterias in the water to stop larva and hang hot shot no pest strips in grow room
 

phudson

Member
Yes, the chemical you are asking about is one of the best on the market (imidacloprid). It has a good residual. Also it is micro-incapsulated, after it is applied microscopic beads form. When an insect comes in contact with the incapsulated beads it burts or will stick to the insect. Once they come in contavt it is a matter of ours. Buy br proactive and starting treatment early you should be ok. I reccommend you not treat 2-4 weeks before flowering finishs-good luck stay safe
Where are you able to get this br proactive, I googled it and nothing comes up. The two products I have been able to locate are Bayer Tree and Shrub, and Green light. The problem with these is that it seems like they contribute to feeding the plant which I don't want, obviously I want to do that myself. Any suggestions?? Does it matter?
 

decrimCA

Active Member
These are all great suggestions here, but I want to go back to the basics for a second - cleanliness.

Look, if your grow room isn't clean, you're going to keep having troubles with bugs. YOu need to make sure you sterilize everything and then clean it again, just to be sure.

If just one thing is dirty, you can infect your whole room.

I make sure that everything is clean and I really don't have any troubles that I didn't bring upon myself.

These pest removers are nice and all, but if you don't have a clean space, then you're just going to have troubles again and again.

:idea:
 

phudson

Member
These are all great suggestions here, but I want to go back to the basics for a second - cleanliness.

Look, if your grow room isn't clean, you're going to keep having troubles with bugs. YOu need to make sure you sterilize everything and then clean it again, just to be sure.

If just one thing is dirty, you can infect your whole room.

I make sure that everything is clean and I really don't have any troubles that I didn't bring upon myself.

These pest removers are nice and all, but if you don't have a clean space, then you're just going to have troubles again and again.

:idea:
Point taken regarding the cleanliness, however, we're talking about microscopic insects here. Its as simple as them entering through an air intake, or on your clothing. Going to your hydro shop can expose you to the insect, then you visit your plants and bang their in there. Cleaning will definitely help, but making the plant or room inhospitable is essential because likely one of these little critters is going to get in and thats all it takes. I doubt commercial gardners growing roses or other ornamentals for sale rely on a "clean grow room" exclusively. I'm sure they have a multi pronged approach including 1) some kind of soil or res treatment to prevent larvae and soil bourne insects, 2) some kind of organic treatment of plants ex.. neem oil to prevent feeding insects, 3) a clean grow room, 4) possibly some type of systemic to make the plant repulsive to insects, and 5) a chemical in case the shit hits the fan and they are left optionless.

This is what I am trying to design.
 
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