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Critique/Modify my bubble/aero cloning solution

Discussion in 'Hydroponics / Aeroponics' started by Vonkins, Jan 6, 2018.

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    Vonkins

    Vonkins Well-Known Member

    Dechlorinated water
    5 ml/gal Earth Juice bloom
    2.5/gal Earth Juice Microblast
    10ml/gal Earth Juice Catalyst (molasses)
    5 ml/gal dyna gro protekt
    15ml/gal dyna gro kln
    10ml/gal hygrozyme
    4 tsp/gal og biowar root pack
    This is the first time i won't be running a sterile res. Seems like a sterile res is harder to control. I could be totally wrong. My new solution should be full of beneficial microbes. I heat this solution to 72-75 degrees with 3 8 inch airstones in my bubble cloner. I figured this same solution would be just as good in my aerocloner as well. I have 3 12 inch airstones in there along with my eco plus 633. I only noticed one problem with my bubble cloner. The froth from the airstones bubbling seems to block the spray from the bubbles bursting in the solution. The froth is simply bubbles to so I could be wrong. I have had terrible success with bubble/aerocloning. When I first got my bubble cloner it was perfect, then it got to were nothing would root. I'm trying this solution in the bubble cloner first just because I know everything is clean and it only requres 1.5 gal of water vs 15 gal in my aerocloner. Don't want to be wasteful in case this solution doesnt work. I have new air line and stones in the bubble cloner. Cloner was cleaned with bleach 3 times and rinsed thoroughly. I can say that after 3 days my ph is staying fairly stable with no slime or soft stems what so ever. Please chime in so I can get the aero/bubble cloning down.
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2018
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    Vonkins

    Vonkins Well-Known Member

    Exactly like I thought. Now I see why I come here less and less. Awe well.
     
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    GreenTools

    GreenTools Well-Known Member

    4 hours after you make a post, you get pissy from not receiving a response...won't get far with that attitude...neither will your cloner with molasses...
     
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    rkymtnman

    rkymtnman Well-Known Member

    that's for sure. he'd be way better off with dr pepper or mountain dew. clones need the caffeine.
     
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    dstroy

    dstroy Well-Known Member

    If it's just for cloning, and you don't veg plants in it then ditch all of that stuff you put into it, that's asking for trouble and long rooting times.

    You could maybe put the rooting hormone back in, and maybe a little bit of a veg formula if your tap water is low ppm < 100.

    I've used aerocloners since I started, and have had 100% success rate with tapwater (two different locations), and clonex and tapwater. (the only part of my garden that can be called truly successful)

    I'm still a newb, but what I do seems to be in line with what the manufacturers recommend, which is tapwater, maybe a little bit of nutrients < 400ppm and a sterile res.
     
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    JSB99

    JSB99 Well-Known Member

    You may be over thinking this a bit. Straight, unbalanced tap water, in a clean bubble Cloner is all you need. Throwing chemicals at it probably won't help. To increase your odds, use uncontaminated RootTech Cloning gel on new cuttings.

    If you browse around, I doubt you'll see anyone trying to root clones using this much work, especially the seasoned growers.

    One thing I had a little trouble with was giving too much light to the clones. Too much light will cause the clones to try and grow, instead of root. I use a single T8 daylight floro, about 12" away, and it works well.

    Also, don't worry about using dechlorinated water. Makes no difference. In fact, it might help keep your res clean.

    The number of airstones is overkill. Just use one or two to get some bubbles popping on the surface.
     
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    Vonkins

    Vonkins Well-Known Member

    I've got a great thread going on at another site. Same thread name with tons of info.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Imo thats too much for cloner...... and i thought i put some shit in mine.

    Tap water phed or plain Will do Just fine.

    Currently im using a mix. But im not new to this.

    But im only adding 4 things and testing for specific results.

    My defalt has always been plain well water 150 ish ppm @ph of 6.

    It sounds like a good recipe for gunk stew.
    Not to be mean but u must have a good baseline before you go tweaking stuff.

    Cause then you wont knownwhich thing gave you the gunk :)

    Whats hard about putting 4-8 drops per gallon of bleach every 3 days?
     

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