i found these guys on the web... they are based out of philly, but they have a west coast flagship store in hollywood. as for this piece...i was lucky not to have to drive to LA. bought it on craigslist, from FAWKIN FLORIDA. ground takes forever. just bought a 7mm ashcatcher digital tan cammo label for me gold coil...taking pics later, having too much fun right now... look em up illadelphglass.com