Deep water culture only thread

onthedl0008

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WE shall see. 3/pot perpetual sog.No screen needed lollipop style.18 gallon DWC tub.
Early prediction..... 3/4 per pot .....6 pots per tub.3 tubs
 

cheeseysynapse

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Bump.......this crazy shit.

Goddamn. I'm startin to get lost on this site! I've never grown, but I joined this site mainly as a research center. Haven't been around until a few weeks ago when I found place to start my operation.

Anywhoooo, I am not starting with a DWC, cause I barely know what it is, or any other system for that matter. Just gonna start a soil grow with some good lights and nutes, but I definitely am going to keep a mother AND THEN start whatever system with the clones. My head is spinning with all the choices...........risk vs. reward of each, time, yield, work..........etc.......

I keep hearing - "the one mistake new growers do is overwater." Well with DWC - your roots are always in water, right? The key being..........you constantly pump air in the water. Those root pics are absolutely amazing. Props to all who posted pics.

The tutorial from abergreen is nice....

I also like no reservoir - there's no reservoir in DWC right? Doesn't look like it. Why would you need it with a big ole tub of water and constant circulation? Do you just pop the top and dump in your nute mix whenever needed and the air and plant takes care of the rest?

If I have the gist right..........I really don't get why people go hydro....seems like a lot of extra work.

Anyway, if there were ever a grow n00b, i am he. No shame in that.

Anyway - great thread.
 

onthedl0008

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In Dwc there shall only be one reservoir. A bucket a plant or tub or sog or maybe even a small wading pool a jungle in which ur roots reside.
All things are controlled in each system in which the particular plants reside. THere is no need for supplementing.
The true key to DWC success Is following all the rules.
 

onthedl0008

Well-Known Member
Bump.......this crazy shit.

Goddamn. I'm startin to get lost on this site! I've never grown, but I joined this site mainly as a research center. Haven't been around until a few weeks ago when I found place to start my operation.

Anywhoooo, I am not starting with a DWC, cause I barely know what it is, or any other system for that matter. Just gonna start a soil grow with some good lights and nutes, but I definitely am going to keep a mother AND THEN start whatever system with the clones. My head is spinning with all the choices...........risk vs. reward of each, time, yield, work..........etc.......

I keep hearing - "the one mistake new growers do is overwater." Well with DWC - your roots are always in water, right? The key being..........you constantly pump air in the water. Those root pics are absolutely amazing. Props to all who posted pics.

The tutorial from abergreen is nice....

I also like no reservoir - there's no reservoir in DWC right? Doesn't look like it. Why would you need it with a big ole tub of water and constant circulation? Do you just pop the top and dump in your nute mix whenever needed and the air and plant takes care of the rest?

If I have the gist right..........I really don't get why people go hydro....seems like a lot of extra work.

Anyway, if there were ever a grow n00b, i am he. No shame in that.

Anyway - great thread.
Maybe U should join DWC grow club.
 

JayDoe71

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I've decided to set up a small grow space in my basement. I'm going to pick up three 18 gal Rubbermaid plastic store bins and make my DWC. I've done this on a much smaller scale with success, but the volume of water with this project presents a new problem(s).

Should the bins be placed directly on the floor or should they be raised so they don't get so cold, or is cold good?

What is the best way to airate a 18 gal bin? I get the feeling that one 12" airstone is not going to do it.

Also, I plan on running 3 bins, what's the best way to do this? Must I have an air pump for each bin? Or do I need to have a pump for each airstone? Do they make pumps that will run 6 or more airstones?

Should I be using something other then pumps and airstones?

My vision is three 18 gal bins, two plants each. Where going for max yeild per plant as this will keep me legal. It would be great to be able to run all three bins with one pump.

Experienced DWC growers I need your help!!! What's the most effective and simplist way to airate my setup?
 

Eharmony420

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i got a 12 inch airstone to aerate my 18 gallon res for my ebb table. It looks like 2 of those with say the 15 dollar air pump at aquarium store would work for a dwc.
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I am here to make sure my dwc clones getting good treatment. I started growimg with a stealth hydro dwc sys. I know a nub mistake. But I learned a lot with that grow and , yeah, the dwc is easy as pie. I also diyd a dwc cloner that worked so whe rw cloning for me failed I ran to the dwc to clone. It had been a few day but I have confidence in my NL clones.

I also am running a waterfarm with a fem cheese seeling in 1.5 in rw. In the waterfarm I plan to run 2-3 mothers, i have seen this done, and that shud keep me cool.

Just praying this dwc cloning works this time like it did the first time when i used a cofffe can, this time it is a 3 fallon rubbermaid with 1 in holles drilled into the lid.

Wow growing opium looks cool, I am a pain patient and grwoing my own that is something I gotta get into
 

onthedl0008

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Hey E harmony how did u set up ur bubble cloner?I keep lots of air in a small res and put the water level directly at the bottom of the net to get them started. The bubbles push the water solution up into the rock. It works great everytime.
 

Eharmony420

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I just drilled small 1 inch holes in the lid of the rubbermaid container, a 3 gallon. I then out in an airstone and an air pump. I added ro water, superthrive and hydroguard. I made the cuts under water, used olivias cloning gel, and dropped them into the holes directly.

I cant use the net pots i have. they are too big for my planned system. I use 4 x4 rockwool cubes. THey have cutout to fit 1.5 inch cubes, I screwed up my rw cloning so eent ot the dwc. I gonna rap the stems of teh rooted clones with 1,5 rw cubes and place these into the 4x4 cubes and hope they root.

This is taking a little longer. Before when i did this i used no cloing gel. Now i can still see the cloning gel on the stems in the water. They look bubbly. Well see. I need these.
 

onthedl0008

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I just drilled small 1 inch holes in the lid of the rubbermaid container, a 3 gallon. I then out in an airstone and an air pump. I added ro water, superthrive and hydroguard. I made the cuts under water, used olivias cloning gel, and dropped them into the holes directly.

I cant use the net pots i have. they are too big for my planned system. I use 4 x4 rockwool cubes. THey have cutout to fit 1.5 inch cubes, I screwed up my rw cloning so eent ot the dwc. I gonna rap the stems of teh rooted clones with 1,5 rw cubes and place these into the 4x4 cubes and hope they root.

This is taking a little longer. Before when i did this i used no cloing gel. Now i can still see the cloning gel on the stems in the water. They look bubbly. Well see. I need these.
Cool man I hope that works out for you. I just got done cutting 13. I put 10 in my plugs. I got an awesome idea from another grower here.He flips the plugs over. Put Ur own lil hole in it.Cut @ a 45 degree angle, dip in cloning gel, or superthrive and pop into the plug.From there they go to the nursery tray for 12 hours.Then onto the heat mat set @ 80 degrees and cover the dome. Water the plugs a couple X a day with about 5-15 ml water a day.In 6 days i got 100 % success rate.
Then i just put 3 into cups of water cuz i know this works as well.
I hope urs work out bro. Cloning is tricky.
 

Hobbes

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Does anyone weight their roots down so they reach the bottom of the res rather than floating at the top?

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bongsmilie

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pelzroo

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Does anyone weight their roots down so they reach the bottom of the res rather than floating at the top?

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bongsmilie

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I've never tried that, eventually the root mass will get so large that a good chunk of it will always stay below the surface
 

Hobbes

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I was reading about re-circulating deep water culture and one thing they mentioned was that the nutrients can concentrate at the bottom of the water because the air might not provide enough water circulation to keep the nutrient solution well mixed.

My Blueberry and Strawberry Cough in DWC are not producing buds as large as those in RDWC or soilless, even though the DWC clones are longer in flower, taller and have 3 gallons of water per plant while the RDWC clones have only 1 gallon of water per plant.

I'm using two air pumps on one DWC plant, 7000cc for 3 gallons of water. I would think that's enough air - does anyone know what would cause buds to be very small in DWC? They're covered in trichs, just small compared to younger plants and plants in soilless (B'Cuzz).

I worked a long twist tie through the root mat of the Strawberry Cough, and tied on a couple of ceramic weights. I'll leave the Blueberry with the roots floating and see if weighing the roots helps or hurts.

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bongsmilie

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onthedl0008

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I was reading about re-circulating deep water culture and one thing they mentioned was that the nutrients can concentrate at the bottom of the water because the air might not provide enough water circulation to keep the nutrient solution well mixed.

My Blueberry and Strawberry Cough in DWC are not producing buds as large as those in RDWC or soilless, even though the DWC clones are longer in flower, taller and have 3 gallons of water per plant while the RDWC clones have only 1 gallon of water per plant.

I'm using two air pumps on one DWC plant, 7000cc for 3 gallons of water. I would think that's enough air - does anyone know what would cause buds to be very small in DWC? They're covered in trichs, just small compared to younger plants and plants in soilless (B'Cuzz).

I worked a long twist tie through the root mat of the Strawberry Cough, and tied on a couple of ceramic weights. I'll leave the Blueberry with the roots floating and see if weighing the roots helps or hurts.

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bongsmilie

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In True DWC. The roots grow in one single res that is maintained thruout the plants life. There are truly no other contrapments that are needed beside ur tub,ur water, ur air pump and ur plants.
Recirculating in DWC= The placement of a small submersible pump in the res on the bottom in the corner to create a whirlpool effect thus keeping the food off the bottom and distibuting it as well as the airrated water over ur roots.

ON Point water changes: Change ur water every 2 weeks and u dont need the addition of a recirculating reservoir.
Hence the whole entire purpose of recirculation is the application of fresh water and nutes.
 

Eharmony420

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Cant ehlp but think that something like haveing a central bigger res that u can circulate your nutes through will be a lot cleaner. I am thinking about somethng like the waterfarms with the reciculating pump feature added or diyd. It is just the latest thing I am in love with. Plus circulating is more oxygen.I know that in small resses it mostly becomes a bundle of roots and the water is gone in a day.

I know waterfarm have their own thread but I am doing both and the circulating pump idea fits both. I think in waterfarm hooking up a small inline pump at the last farm and pumping back to the upper res would be cool. Put it on a timer for energy and overflow risk.
 

onthedl0008

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Think it really comes down to having success in whatever method of growth style u choose. Ive seen some awesome farm grows, coco grows and everytype of hydro grows.
The ones i like most are the ones that are successfull in incorporating the best methods that pertain to the particular style of growth.
 

Jgoasnhja

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Hey guys wats up? Im not one to jump to last page before reading but I need some help fast! I decided to go with DWC or my first Hydro grow.
I started my Thai x Skunk in Rapid Rooter cubes in a prop dome and heat mat. I waited untill the roots just popped thru the cube then i stuck it in my system. 5 gall buckets and 2 400 HPS Son Agro Bulbs.
Unfortunatly I have not had a very good experiance since i places them in the system. The Leaves got real droopy and tips started to yeloow and curl up. Also some tips are very dry and will crumble if u touch them.
Any tips and info would be greatly appriciated.
 
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