Delta Variant: Natural Immunity 700% Better Than the Vaccine

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Fogdog

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Let’s start with the biggest question that is not getting adequately answered by anyone in government, mainstream media, academia, or Big Pharma. Why is natural immunity to Covid-19 being disregarded completely? It’s not just getting ignored. The powers-that-be are actively and aggressively quashing every question, “debunking” every study, and torturing every number they can get their hands on in order to make them say what they want.

The agenda to drive universal vaccinations of the populace has forced them into a corner when it comes to the question of natural immunity. They can’t say it’s not a reasonable question, nor can they say it’s already been answered properly. They just say this organization or that doctor or some study shows that even those with natural immunity must still get vaccinated. When pressed, they invoke the logical fallacy known as begging the question; they use the affirmative answer to the question of whether people who have recovered from Covid-19 should get vaccinated as the evidence that they should.

The numbers don’t back up this claim, though studies have been limited due to pressure from the powers-that-be. Logic doesn’t support the claims, either, as only an infinitesimal percentage of people who have recovered from Covid-19 have become infected again. Science definitely does not back the claim since literally every known virus prior to Covid-19 has been better-prevented by natural immunity than vaccines.

This last point is important because it brings up the original necessity for vaccines of the past. The only times vaccines were deemed necessary were when a viral infection had a poor recovery rate. Polio, for example, was simply too potentially dangerous for people to rely on natural immunity. Sure, those who recovered were protected, but a large percentage of people who contracted polio had reasonable fears of death or debilitation. Covid-19 has a 99.97% recovery rate for otherwise healthy people under 50.

Sometimes, vaccines are able to get close to the efficacy of natural immunity. Covid-19 is not one of those cases. As Dr. Joseph Mercola details below, natural immunity is so extraordinarily superior to vaccine immunity that one should question whether vaccinating those who have recovered from Covid-19 actually does more harm than good. I’m not just talking about the astronomical number of adverse reactions reported to VAERS, now approaching 500,000. I’m referring to studies that have shown vaccinated people who already have natural immunity may actually increase their chances of getting it again by essentially confusing the body into creating weaker resistance to the coronavirus.

The powers-that-be may torture the numbers to become statistics that fit their agenda, but the raw data doesn’t like. That’s why it’s shocking so few have reported on the clearly higher efficacy of natural immunity, particularly against the Delta Variant, over vaccines.

We actually covered this before, though not nearly as authoritatively as Dr. Mercola does below. But here’s the thing, and it’s extremely important to understand. Those of us who are fighting for the truth need to be repetitive. We need to hammer home the message, and if that means taking each individual topic and hammering it home a dozen times a week, so be it. Those who are pushing vaccines have no problem telling us every hour of every day how silly we are for asking questions. When we get answers such as those offered below, we must keep pushing it out to all who will listen.

The people need to hear the truth over and over again because I can assure you they’re hearing the drumbeat of lies incessantly. With the Delta Variant, the long list of lies continues to expand. We need facts to be broadcast loud and clear. To that end, here’s Dr. Mercola…

STORY AT-A-GLANCE
  • Data presented to the Israeli Health Ministry July 17, 2021, revealed that, of the more than 7,700 COVID-19 cases reported since May 2021, only 72 occurred in people who had previously had COVID-19 — a rate of less than 1%
  • In contrast, more than 3,000 cases — or approximately 40% — occurred in people who had received a COVID-19 vaccine
  • In other words, those who were vaccinated were nearly 700% more likely to develop COVID-19 than those who had natural immunity from a prior infection — and this is largely in response to the Delta variant, which has led to increasing infections in Israel
  • It’s extremely rare to get reinfected by COVID-19 after you’ve already had the disease and recovered; one study found the median reinfection rate was just 0.27%
  • With effective treatments available, the documented high survival rate of COVID-19 and knowledge that if you’ve had COVID-19, you’re already likely immune to further infection, the rationale for getting vaccinated is faltering
Excellent examples the logical fallacy called Cherry Picking.

Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally.[1]

The term is based on the perceived process of harvesting fruit, such as cherries. The picker would be expected to select only the ripest and healthiest fruits. An observer who sees only the selected fruit may thus wrongly conclude that most, or even all, of the tree's fruit is in a likewise good condition. This can also give a false impression of the quality of the fruit (since it is only a sample and is not a representative sample). A concept sometimes confused with cherry picking is the idea of gathering only the fruit that is easy to harvest, while ignoring other fruit that is higher up on the tree and thus more difficult to obtain (see low-hanging fruit).

Cherry picking has a negative connotation as the practice neglects, overlooks or directly suppresses evidence that could lead to a complete picture.
 

PJ Diaz

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This study says the exact opposite of this threads title.


No. You seem to misunderstand the title of the thread. The title is comparing natural immunity to the vaccine. What you are comparing is natural immunity vs natural immunity plus a vaccine. So, I haven't read all the science behind these theories, but if we assume both headlines to be true, then we could come up with a new fun math equation and headline, which could read: Natural Immunity Plus Covid Jab is 1400% More Effective than Covid Jab Alone.
 

Sir Napsalot

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Actually we should be talking about recipes and dogs here ........ it will add some sorely lacking relevance to an otherwise retarded thread. Was Ginger a working pointer? My Ben is not, he has his own couch, twin bed and is very beautiful but dumb (like pootonium). Well ok not that dumb :(.
Yes, my dog was excellent in the field- we hunted pheasants and huns mostly

I took her with me hunting geese once and that didn't work out so well- we were hunkered down behind an earth dam while my dad flushed 4 geese off a pond, they were headed right for me when my dog broke away and ran up and started barking at them :roll:

She used to run alongside me on my '73 Hodaka Wombat at 40mph
 

UncleBuck

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No. You seem to misunderstand the title of the thread. The title is comparing natural immunity to the vaccine. What you are comparing is natural immunity vs natural immunity plus a vaccine. So, I haven't read all the science behind these theories, but if we assume both headlines to be true, then we could come up with a new fun math equation and headline, which could read: Natural Immunity Plus Covid Jab is 1400% More Effective than Covid Jab Alone.
You don't even know how vaccines work
 

Budley Doright

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Yes, my dog was excellent in the field- we hunted pheasants and huns mostly

I took her with me hunting geese once and that didn't work out so well- we were hunkered down behind an earth dam while my dad flushed 4 geese off a pond, they were headed right for me when my dog broke away and ran up and started barking at them :roll:

She used to run alongside me on my '73 Hodaka Wombat at 40mph
Yes it’s amazing how far and fast they run. I take Ben (used to as his hips are fucked) for runs with my ATV. Ben could have been an amazing hunter if I would have spent the time but he’s always been part of the family and spoiled. Both his dad and mom were from a pheasant hunting resort and one brother was featured on a hunting show (Hunting Canada).
 

Sir Napsalot

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Yes it’s amazing how far and fast they run. I take Ben (used to as his hips are fucked) for runs with my ATV. Ben could have been an amazing hunter if I would have spent the time but he’s always been part of the family and spoiled. Both his dad and mom were from a pheasant hunting resort and one brother was featured on a hunting show (Hunting Canada).
That's pretty cool

my dog had more of a silver tipped in black coat, with brown patches, and a brown stripe down her nose

She had a deep chest but was skinny around the withers, almost like a greyhound

One time we went on vacation for a week and put her up at a kennel in Enterprise, 6 miles away from our home in Joseph, OR- when we got home she was waiting by the front door
 

Budley Doright

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That's pretty cool

my dog had more of a silver tipped in black coat, with brown patches, and a brown stripe down her nose

She had a deep chest but was skinny around the withers, almost like a greyhound

One time we went on vacation for a week and put her up at a kennel in Enterprise, 6 miles away from our home in Joseph, OR- when we got home she was waiting by the front door
Ben’s mom was patched and dad was brown but yup certainly has that greyhound body but way more muscular lol. His winter weight is 100 lbs and summer about 85. Spends his time (all of it) swimming and chasing fish in the summer ....... very smelly lol.
And yes ops an idiot.
 
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xtsho

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The topic of this thread is just stupid. You have to survive an initial infection to have any immunity. The vaccine can help prevent getting it in the first place and make the symptoms much milder if you do get a breakthrough case.

This isn't chickenpox where people would hold Pox Parties to expose their children while they were still young and the virus would be less severe than if they caught it when they were older. They have since stopped that now that a chickenpox vaccine was developed in the 90's.
 

StonedGardener

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The topic of this thread is just stupid. You have to survive an initial infection to have any immunity. The vaccine can help prevent getting it in the first place and make the symptoms much milder if you do get a breakthrough case.

This isn't chickenpox where people would hold Pox Parties to expose their children while they were still young and the virus would be less severe than if they caught it when they were older. They have since stopped that now that a chickenpox vaccine was developed in the 90's.
Those chicken pox parties were a blast......pick each other's scabs, goodies, activities with whole neighborhood.
 

Rob Roy

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Glad you finally got the shot. You must have been pleasantly surprised to discover it made you more handsome.

Nope. No shot.

The last shot I had was Tequila a few years back. My natural immunity is all I need for real and imagined diseases, but thank you for your concern.
 
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