Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System

lordjin said:

Hm, now that I look at that thing, it does concern me a little. Is it still growing vertically? By the size of your buds, I'd say they're gonna continue to stretch a little as your buds thicken, which looks kinda problematic since they already look like they're close to the ceiling. The upper portion of your main stalk still looks pretty flexible. I know, I know... someone will say 'don't listen to that lunatic,' and I know it's kinda heretical of me to suggest bending during flower, but I'm gonna suggest it anyway. 'But it will stress the plant and cause herm..." someone already said to me when I suggested such madness to someone in their journal... Yeah, yeah...but from the look of it, you're gonna have to do something one way or another when the top buds start putting on a little weight. That extremely uneven light distribution due to the plant's height will cause an undesirable effect to overall flower. Say that plant was handed to me and someone said, "Do something." I would mangle it pretty good. But in hydro, it should still survive... and hopefully not herm. Can't guarantee that it won't, but you'll have further difficulty with that beast if you just leave it alone that way.


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I say that about the light because you're using fluoros it would appear. Vertical light distribution isn't a problem if say you have 600 to 1000 watt bare bulb hids hanging vertically all around your plants, but if you don't, that extreme space distribution between your bud nodes is gonna prove disappointing.

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Gifted said:

Ive been thinking on what to do with it and ive got a plan. After the smaller ones are harvested and gone, im gonna turn the 400 watt hps on its side and light up one side of the big one. then ill set up the flouros on top and the other side.
And without the other buckets, my whole air pump will be devoted to one plant. Im gonna give her as long as she needs. haha im actually pretty excited.

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sleezy1 said:

Lordjin, you like my new avatar?

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dsmoke1 said:

Sorry to have offended you! I'm not here to rouse anyone up. I'm simple stating what I have seen. Not sure where you're assumptions came from but I'll give you a short, and general preface. I have been involved with, ans using, medicinal cannabis for a very long time. Not just in Cali, but in Oregon and Washington. I lived in Europe for three years in my early twenties, and was glad to call Amsterdam my private getaway for that time. High grade cannabis is nothing new to me, and because of this, I tend to be a bit of a stickler. I do not live in LA, I live in Sacramento, and as a grower especially, I have seen a lot of things go unregulated in the Prop 215 world. You are right, people want OG because of it's amazing qualities, and when done right, it is some of the best stuff ever. This however, leads people to create unstable and already-been-done-before strains so that they can slap a cool name on it and run a hundred clones through the club every week. It sucks, but it happens. That "purple haze" clone at your local club is probably not the best purple haze out there. See what I mean? Re-read my original post, and you will see that I all was trying to do is promote secure genetics through the process of germinating seeds and selecting a mother. It is just too risky to bet that those clones from the club are the real deal from a super healthy mother. Why? Because some guy is making bank off of 20 different so-so plants he's whacking the shit out of every week to pay his bills. Once again, I'm sorry I offended you, not my intentions. There are people who really really care about providing medicine for patients who need it, and for each one of these people, there's five trying to make a buck.

Anyways, back to Jin's grow. Beautifully done.

Edit: What the hell is Pink Lady? Mannn.... That's one of the Black Cherry Soda (Clone Only kush strain and exotic elite that was on the cover of High Times?!?!) crosses that made it through testing at the TGA camp. Black Dahlia didn't even make it, and that shit was soooo dank. If you want info on these strains, check out Greenpassion. They are a community dedicated to medicinal cannabis and medicinal breeding. If you're as adamant about medicine as you say you are, you should check them out. No need to get on here and bash me for bringing up one of the biggest things this year in the growing world- You don't have to pay too much attention to know about Plushberry (Aka Pink Lady).

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323cheezy said:

as i type i have already sent 5 missiles to your home in sacramento ....
But before i terminate your meaningless existance(or lack there of one ) i will share a few words....lol....
Im kidding...

Im not affended at all....
and to some extent your right people make up names and shit..
But there are actuall strains that are real and can be identified . regardless of what you believe...
True i could make up a strain , crosss, what have u ... and call it ankle sauce ....
And if it was that good .. i could dub it and there have u the birth of ankle sauce...
I could even distribute it .... real ankle sause shit u kno?

Now i ask myself a question is this me just trying to make money off you....?
I dont know it alll depends how good it is ...
but who cares its my ankle sauce ill do what i want with it..

Now seeing as im only a hobbyiest ...it probly wont happen... So I tend to buy cuts form a believe it or not honest dispenciary ....
Believe it or not skywalker is a real cut....they had it ...
Really how say???
Because i purchase and smoke skywalker all the time ....
From not 1... 2...... but 3 different places......(its all the same ,even at different clubs)
And gets this i grew it out too??
Wierd... No lie its real...
I can tell u how it looks the flavor , smell,high, ect...
Its high is supper uppy .. and it doesnt foxtail, strectchy as hell,explosive buds..... no lemony smell...straight keroscene...
blaha blah...

I just take it to heart when people say what i grow is some made up bullshit...
I know what i grow .and i know what u would get in the clubs and could spot a fake in 2 seconds.....

Now where i get my clones , they have a network, yes they verify cuts... and grow them out...
I wss happy to find out to people on my website grew it out ... so i could be sure it was ....
The skywalker i got in the shops....
This dispenciary also grew out three individual seeds out and verified one to be skywalker....
The others one being chem 91 n a larry .....
so you see this is the miracle of technology u could say ....
I dont know where your from or how they do in sac town...
but when growers buy cuts from our dispenciary , they post pics and reports....
And they call out a fake in a minute....
Hapens from time to time......
But thats just the reality im dealing with....

I dont take this personal at all....
But this is my hobby , and what i like to do .....
I see a medication i like at a refuitable place i try to go source an original cut ....
Call me old fashioned.... but ive grown out subs gear before.... and its no where on the level of some of the cuts i have access too..
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Hey look its diablo og !!!
Or is it????

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323cheezy said:

All the shops i go to are legit....
And there are breeders and genetisist that work with cuts at my dispencairy......legally

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dsmoke1 said:

I had to go back and respond to this single line. The rest of what you said, once again, was completely out of context considering I live in Cali as well, and everything you said was based on false presumptions, so no harm done there. But this, is scary. I see you're very adamant about the "masters" and the large amount of great things they are doing. This is what concerns me: You seem know multiple shops that *breed* genetics? They are not masters, and probably should be focused on one thing if they plan to take on breeding. I highly doubt they have any clue what they are doing. I HIGHLY doubt it. Anyone can sex two plants and get seeds, but this is not how breeding works. Give me the phone number of your club- I'm prop 215 compliant and I would love to give them a call and ensure that they know what they are doing when attempting to create a strain of cannabis that will act as the breeder wishes. If they truly care about quality medicine, as you say they do, then they won't have a problem explaining to me as why they're trying to carry out a decade's worth of work in the back-room of a bodegas.

If someone is breeding inside of the dispensary you go to, they are definitely doing it wrong. This process, takes years, to be modest: Selecting candidates, sifting through the garbage, identifying feeding and disease habits, extended grows to cull plants that display late-flowering nanners, running tests and observations on vigor/yield, potency, flavor, rate of flower response, resin production, stature, scent, floral structure, floral color, resistance to herm, maturation in the male versus potency in the female, running multiple harvests and hiring test growers, back-crossing again and re-crossing again, wearing clothes to the breed-house that can never be worn anywhere else, crossing your genetics again with a new strain because what you're working with isn't good enough, removing all the unstable crap from that batch, back-crossing and re-crossing multiple times from there for stability, culling the sickly once again, rehiring test growers and documenting every bit of info... You get the point. I'd hate to know so much about something and have you think I'm spreading misinformation. So, I'll restate what I did again, but tailor it for you so we can be friends - As a Medical Marijuana patient in the state of California, Medical Marijuana grower, and a bunch of other status-engorging monikers regarding our beloved plant, I can and will stand by my statements regarding the sheisty strain-craze taking hold of the medical marijuana subculture. This is why I am really turned off of the whole OG movement in LA. Half of that stuff you're ranting about is the same Chemdawg 91 cross done over and over again, given different names. If you're going to be at the Medical Cannabis Cup in San Fran at the end of the month I would be thrilled to introduce you to some true master breeders and hopefully open your eyes to the world of breeding medicinal cannabis. Your boyos down the block in that shop that are "geneticists" or whatever they call themselves are bullshittin' you bro. As an older head that has watched this whole thing rise, fall, and rise again, I can tell you that the market is saturated, and humans are doing what humans do. Putting OG on the end of a haphazard chemdawg cross is a really quick way to make a ton of money and perpetuating a fad. I won't condone it. If it works for you, then you have every right to support what you wish. I, on the one hand, have done my research and been around the block. This has led me to sit somewhere deep in the heart of what I consider an art. I can tell you're still young, and very excited about your current ventures. This is awesome and there are a million places to go from for you, but if you enjoy what you're doing, stick with it. If you desire to know more, the information is out there. Once again, you should try to make it up to SF for the Medcancup. A bunch of big wigs in the growing world are going to be there. Cervantes, Nico, and more! Might be worth it to break the mold and come up.

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dsmoke1 said:

Oh I hear you on the cut shit. Just because someone has DJ Short's Blueberry does not mean they they bred it themselves. A lot of people in Cali are breeding their own strains, at a high-speed rate, and without any real careful attention. I thought you were trying to tell me that obtaining seeds from a verified breeder is the same thing as getting a cut with a funky new name from a club. The fact that you have a 17 y/o strain leads me to believe you should understand everything I am saying. I have friends with elite cuts as well, and people all around me do too, but getting them is the different story. A buddy of mine fell in love with Sage and went on a multiple year hunt for a Big Sur Holy cut. And he found it. I believe everything you're saying, and I don't think you've lied to me. In fact, I think we agree more with each other than you think. It's never nice to say "I know my shit", so we're going about it diplomatically in someone else's grow journal. I just hope you don't disagree with me when I say strains ending in OG are not the end-all-be-all of cannabis, and are easily matched by hundreds of other fantastic strains which were brilliantly crafted. In the end, it comes down to the grower, but I can promise you, smoke some well-done Hawaiian Snow with 100 days of flower on it, and you won't want to smoke anything else for a month straight. I promise Seen people go off the deep end with a few strains that deserve a lot more recognition than they get.

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dsmoke1 said:

And for the record: I love Chemdawg. Love love love. I'm even growing some right now. Which means I love OG. Love love love! So I do agree with you there, the shit is in a class of it's own. It's just getting the overkill treatment around here lately. Honestly, look: http://www.fhwcc.org/category/menu/ - Can you believe that? That's pretty much every club in Sac. And we have one on every corner. Remember how everyone used to like Lebron James? Doesn't mean he sucks or anything. Hyped might be the right word. I've found, throughout the years, I'm pretty immune to hype

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dsmoke1 said:

Here she is

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lordjin said:

She looks healthy. It looks like she's a little soil side project you have going.

That looks just like any number of OG plants at that age, btw.

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