Did this light cause hermie?

wheelerman420

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I was just wondering if this single orange led light on my humidifer could have been the cause for my hermies. I have four plants, two closest to the lhumidifier hermied on me. Other two are fine. anyways here are the pics, I put my hand in front of it to show how bright the damn thing actually is in the dark. Anyone?
 

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250wpride

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Ya I heard light leaks the size of a pin head will do it.try to cover over it with electrical tape until u cant see it
 

wheelerman420

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Ya I heard light leaks the size of a pin head will do it.try to cover over it with electrical tape until u cant see it
The hell with that, I dont need it in my growroom anymore, I just took the damn thing out completely. I noticed the 2 plants closest to light turned hermie, but the other two didnt. I thought it was just bad genetics in my bagseed, but after a lot of thought, i noticed the light on this humidifier, and it hit me. Then i did some testing, and the light does put out about 5 or 10 lumens. Oh well, guess i'll know next time. thanks for your response.
 

Seamaiden

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Damn.. so, I wonder how many lumens the moon puts out. Also wondering what effect temperature may have had on the hermaphrodism after reading some of kindprincess's posts.
 

250wpride

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I dont think the moon really has any affect due to it being so little lumens at night compared to the sun in the day but its interesting.
 

blinkykush

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a little light is acceptable contrary to popular belief. I mean lets be real here, your right the moon puts off way more light than a small red led. I would lable it just the flip of the dice and result was what it was based on the seeds. Just my opinion anyways.
 

IcanMJ

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idk a full moon is half as bright as the sun, that is dim light. I could so a Bright light that size doing it but time will tell it was the problem.
 

420inmyapt

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I think it was other factors that stressed your babies, not a tiny LED.... if you have read any of the LED threads you will know 1 single LED does not put shit out for lumen's.... I would think it was genetics if you got two...... i mean fuck i got to go into my grow room /closet when the light are off, i got a Green LED and it is bright enough to light up the room and i do get hermies...... i just can't believe a little LED effecting your plants... but i could be wrong, I'll keep an open mind, just try and prove it was in deed that led and nothing else please.....
 

yobo

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im no expert, but plants use little (if any) light from the green sector of the spectrum. I know that if you need to do somthing to your plants and its dark you can use a green bulb to see.
 

420inmyapt

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im no expert, but plants use little (if any) light from the green sector of the spectrum. I know that if you need to do somthing to your plants and its dark you can use a green bulb to see.
I was trying to show him is that i use a LED in my room almost daily with lights off and i have 0% hermie ratio, i was just trying to justify my theory on his situation...
 

wheelerman420

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I'm not sure what could have stressed them out, I have had my temps right, humidity had been right, Timer has lights on a strict 12/12, and they havent been over nuted or anything. They were stressed pretty hard a couple times while they were veggin, but idk if that would make any difference.

And it could have been just bad genetics with the bagseed I used. I guess.
 

yobo

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I was trying to show him is that i use a LED in my room almost daily with lights off and i have 0% hermie ratio, i was just trying to justify my theory on his situation...
yeh, but your light is green, his is red. not having ago.... what the fuck do i know...:blsmoke:
 

wheelerman420

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yeh, but your light is green, his is red. not having ago.... what the fuck do i know...:blsmoke:
Yeah thats what i was wondering, I know you can use a green light to look at your plants during sleep time, plants don't use the green spectrum, hence why plants look green, they reflect the green light.

This orangish/red light was located about one foot from closest plant. It does look more orange than red. I dunno, I was for sure that it was just the bag seed that cause the hermies, but this light has me wondering. Regardless, i wont use the damn thing in my flower room again!
 

wheelerman420

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Ok I just found this, and apparently the moon is only .02 lumens on a full night. Guess the orange/red light could have caused hermie.

SO HOW DOES MY LIGHT COMPARE TO THE SUN?
Well, direct outside daylight in the summertime averages somewhere in the neighbourhood of 10,000 foot candles. This is equal to 10,000 lumens per square foot. If you compare this to the output of our thousand watt metal halide bulb earlier, we can see that the sun does a pretty good job.
However, the sun is subject to annoying little changes in weather that our artificial lighting is not. On an overcast day, the amount of lumens that the sun produces drops to about 1,000. If you were standing under a large, tall tree, the amount of light falling on your head is referred to as open shade. Open shade produces about 300 foot candles. In the deep shade, you would be experiencing around 50 to 100 foot candles, and under the light of a full moon you would be subjected to .02 foot candles.
So, artificial light is not subject to the interruption of inclement weather, and we can run our light for the optimum period of 12 to 18 hours per day on our plants, whereas the sun only produces six or seven hours of useable light.
 

420inmyapt

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Ok so tell me how many lumens is that LED putting out....

FYI "Most typical LEDs are designed to operate with no more than 30–60 milliwatts (mW) of electrical power."
 
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wheelerman420

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I really think this led is putting off like .6 - 1 lumen. But I'm not totally sure about this. I know foot candles and lemen arent quite the same, but this light is just a little less bright as a bday candle.
 

420inmyapt

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LoL i really dont know man, i assume a single LED would not effect your grow, i mean shit some peoples timers and controllers that have LED's on them..... I am almost positive that if that little amount of light effected cannabis plants so detrimentally there would be wide spear consensus this issue.....:peace: going home to smoke a few :joint: later days
 
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