Disgusting.

Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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WeedFreak78 said:
This is false.
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make a bold statement.

WeedFreak78 said:
My father passed away from CJD a year and a half ago, I was forced to learn as much as i could very quickly, it took him within a month of being diagnosed. It can be transmitted in food and through contact with infected fluids or medical instruments. It can be hereditary. It can't easily be traced to a source either, as we found out, and makes us very nervous as to whether other family members contracted it but it hasn't shown symptoms. Only conclusive test is a brain biopsy, next semi-conclusive is a spinal tap. We would have to pay out of pocket to get tested, it would be considered an "elected procedure", If you are infected it can sit dormant for years before affecting you. Mad cow is also a prion disease and CJD is related to it. The hospital had to file with the CDC, a special govt supervised cremation had to be done, and all medical equipment used on him was destroyed(supposedly). Probably the worst thing I've ever had to experience and my whole life view was changed by it.
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then go on to explain exactly why i am RIGHT...

 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Milovan said:
A friend of mine worked at Jack In The Box and he told me
that the food boxes in back of the kitchen storage area were marked "Purina".
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now this actually is a "True Story"

Jack In The Box is owned by "Foodmaker Corp" which was sold as a subsidiary to Ralston Purina Corp (they make lotsa shit, not just dog food)

Foodmaker was sold off and became a publicly traded independent company in 1987.

Jack In The Box has not been under the Purina umbrella since then.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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canndo said:
You blame the vendor? I have been to more than one steak place that will refuse you should you ask for your steak well done.

Blame instead, the beef industry that is the source of the danger of poorly cooked ground beef.
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That's often because the Chef refuses to destroy the meat by cooking all of the flavour and juices out of it.

If the people making your food have their Food safety handling course, and the adhere to it, there's no or VERY minimal risk of getting sick from anything.
 
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ChesusRice

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Beefbisquit said:
That's often because the Chef refuses to destroy the meat by cooking all of the flavour and juices out of it.

If the people making your food have their Food safety handling course, and the adhere to it, there's no or VERY minimal risk of getting sick from anything.
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Most restaurant food born illnesses are the result of cross contamination
Like using the knife you just cut a raw chicken up to cut the veggies for the salad without washing it
Or not cleaning your prep surfaces
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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ChesusRice said:
Most restaurant food born illnesses are the result of cross contamination
Like using the knife you just cut a raw chicken up to cut the veggies for the salad without washing it
Or not cleaning your prep surfaces
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100% true.

Contamination from soil, e.g. pesticides, dirt, E. Coli etc. is another common one. People don't usually realize how many bugs they eat in their salad. lol
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Little known fact; Chickens don't usually have salmonilla, it's a by-product of how they're raised. Free range chickens don't have the same same levels of bacteria, because they're not stuffed into a disgusting coop with other chickens shitting on them, and the smell of urea and amonia so strong it burns your nose.
 
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ChesusRice

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Beefbisquit said:
Little known fact; Chickens don't usually have salmonilla, it's a by-product of how they're raised. Free range chickens don't have the same same levels of bacteria, because they're not stuffed into a disgusting coop with other chickens shitting on them, and the smell of urea and amonia so strong it burns your nose.
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Wrong and right.
From a guy who has dressed 10s of thousands of various poultry. Most chickens you eat are contaminated with salmonella due to the fact they are all processed in the same baths with the same water. And the giblets that come with the chicken didnt come from that chicken either
 
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ChesusRice

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NoDrama said:
*righties
FDA and EPA you numbnuts. Jesus Cheezus, you shoulda been Rick Perry's running mate.
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How else to explain their posture on funding for the Food and Drug Administration? As part of their campaign to reduce federal spending, House Republicans want to reduce FDA food safety funding by $241 million for the duration of this fiscal year. As my friend and former colleague Suzy Khimm recently reported for Mother Jones, that would mean, among other things, furloughing inspectors and reducing examinations of imported food.
And that could be just the beginning of cutbacks at FDA. For next year’s budget, the Republicans have said they want to reduce discretionary spending to 2008 levels. According to calculations by David Plunkett, who is a staff attorney at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, such a cut at FDA would likely force the agency to lay off 600 inspectors, actually reducing the force to slightly less than what it was in 2008. (I can’t vouch for those figures personally, but he extrapolated the figures based on official FDA budget justifications--and his method seems sensible.)
What makes this particularly troubling is that 2008 spending levels were clearly inadequate--even in 2008.
Food inspections got a funding boost at the very beginning of the Bush Administration, in response to 9/11. But afterward, funding remained essentially flat, even though the demand for inspections was rising, thanks in part to growing imports of food. In November, 2007, a non-partisan scientific advisory committee concluded that the FDA lacked the resources, including not just personnel but also technology, to do its job correctly

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/85186/salmonella-fda-budget-cut-republican
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
How else to explain their posture on funding for the Food and Drug Administration? As part of their campaign to reduce federal spending, House Republicans want to reduce FDA food safety funding by $241 million for the duration of this fiscal year. As my friend and former colleague Suzy Khimm recently reported for Mother Jones, that would mean, among other things, furloughing inspectors and reducing examinations of imported food.
And that could be just the beginning of cutbacks at FDA. For next year’s budget, the Republicans have said they want to reduce discretionary spending to 2008 levels. According to calculations by David Plunkett, who is a staff attorney at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, such a cut at FDA would likely force the agency to lay off 600 inspectors, actually reducing the force to slightly less than what it was in 2008. (I can’t vouch for those figures personally, but he extrapolated the figures based on official FDA budget justifications--and his method seems sensible.)
What makes this particularly troubling is that 2008 spending levels were clearly inadequate--even in 2008.
Food inspections got a funding boost at the very beginning of the Bush Administration, in response to 9/11. But afterward, funding remained essentially flat, even though the demand for inspections was rising, thanks in part to growing imports of food. In November, 2007, a non-partisan scientific advisory committee concluded that the FDA lacked the resources, including not just personnel but also technology, to do its job correctly

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/85186/salmonella-fda-budget-cut-republican
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a facile and sophomoric distortion of the issue.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2010/12/who-inspects-what-a-food-safety-scramble/#.UuIE-vuIaHs

read this and wonder at the idiocy.

this is why conservatives dont want washington in charge of everything, they are FUCKUPS

the USDA is the organization which SHOULD be inspecting imported as well as domestically produced food, but the FDA has been leeching their funding for decades and subverting the USDA's attempts to maintain adequate inspections.

the FDA should have more than enough on it's plate dealing with drugs and medical products and technologies. putting them in charge of a few aspects of food inspection with the USDA in charge of others is a sure fire recipe for bumbling bureaucratic incompetence and the washington blame game.

which is exactly what we now have.

dismantling the FDA or restructuring it into the drug and medical device administration (DMDA haas a nice ring to it, and brings more hard consonants into the alphabet soup of federal agencies) is not just the logical solution it's the responsible one.

it's win/win!

Edit: upon reflection, the agency should be restructured as the Drug And Medical Educational Department For Observation and Organization Litigation Service (DAMNEDFOOLS for short...)

then they could Laterally Transition all of the redundant and retarded bureaucratic functions in washington into one organization, set up their offices in one facility in the arizona desert, and blow it up with atomics.

then it's Win/Win/Win/Huge Success
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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ChesusRice said:
Wrong and right.
From a guy who has dressed 10s of thousands of various poultry. Most chickens you eat are contaminated with salmonella due to the fact they are all processed in the same baths with the same water. And the giblets that come with the chicken didnt come from that chicken either
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The source of the salmonella is not natural in the chickens was the point I was attempting to make. But yeah.... they get covered in shit and bacteria, then they all get cross-contaminated during processing.

Never processed chickens like that, but I used to be a chicken catcher when I was younger, and I'm a chef in training, now. :D
 
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