dispensaries no longer legal. fuck.

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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jang707 said:
In all honesty I may have to drop one of my patients to find a high demand patient to unload my meds on. I do t smoke very often, so its hard for me to "socialize" with other peeps. I give most of my patients free meds when they sign up with me, and alot of them that lasts until its time for me to give them more... I was under the impression that I am obligated to give my patients a reasonable amount of meds to help them. if I follow these rules I don't know how I would cover my costs
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If you're interested in following the letter of the law, the only way now to recoup your costs is to charge your patients for their meds.
 
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Tophead

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jang707 said:
In all honesty I may have to drop one of my patients to find a high demand patient to unload my meds on. I do t smoke very often, so its hard for me to "socialize" with other peeps. I give most of my patients free meds when they sign up with me, and alot of them that lasts until its time for me to give them more... I was under the impression that I am obligated to give my patients a reasonable amount of meds to help them. if I follow these rules I don't know how I would cover my costs
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I am not under the same impression. It costs money to grow, but then you give free meds? You can't goto a pharmacy and ask for free meds can you? If your patients expect that I think they are freeloading. But many people feel differently. Perhaps this was before though, before they could give away an ounce to a customer, then sell 11 more ounces to the dispensary or whatever. Now with dispensaries in the crosshairs I think that will change. I've even lost a patient because I wouldn't give free meds. Instead of giving away for free, I just lower my suggested donation. Now things seem at a premium though, I may have to raise prices. And what can my patients do? They either have to buy from me, or go without until they can put in a transfer order to a new caregiver. If anything this could make all caregivers something akin to the mob. "You pay what I tell you to pay or else you don't get anything."

This is not what I wanted, it's ridiculous. It is not within the will of the law or the 64% of the voters who supported this law. But that is just my opinion.
 
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jang707

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st0wandgrow said:
If you're interested in following the letter of the law, the only way now to recoup your costs is to charge your patients for their meds.
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Yea and I feel like that is going against what this was all supposed to help. Alot of my patients have little or no extra money to spend on meds, but they need them and I really felt good about helping them out, now this law just boned anybody who was trying to do things the right way.
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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So clubs and dispensaries could be chanrge with small time local ordinance "nuisance" type violations. If I transfer meds in any way to someone not registered to me though-mooney involved or not- I could be subject to local ordinance nuisance laws as well but NOT criminaly charged? Is that about it Tim? it's what I got from the article but its what I wanted to get from it so who knows-maybe the blinders are on
 
needlesnpins

needlesnpins

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the nuisance is a civil penalty reserved for the business itself. per the article you could be personally charged with a crime (presumably felony deliv/trnsf ) but you would still have a defense in court. weather or not you would win your case is anyones guess.
 
tricloud

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Now people who just found out they have cancer can't just start treating in 21 days. They have to find a caregiver or start growing themselves. By the time they put together a grow room and learn how to grow they will probably be dead. It's time to legalize so there is NO waiting period. Now greed on both sides will pull many votes and signatures away. It's time to quit worrying about whats best for us financially and start thinking about whats right. Legalization might hit our wallets a little but we can probably just grow more and most important of all, the sickest folks who need meds the most wouldn't have to wait a single freakin day!
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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needlesnpins said:
the nuisance is a civil penalty reserved for the business itself. per the article you could be personally charged with a crime (presumably felony deliv/trnsf ) but you would still have a defense in court. weather or not you would win your case is anyones guess.
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would bud tenders be subject to criminal charges then as well?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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tricloud said:
Now people who just found out they have cancer can't just start treating in 21 days. They have to find a caregiver or start growing themselves. By the time they put together a grow room and learn how to grow they will probably be dead. It's time to legalize so there is NO waiting period. Now greed on both sides will pull many votes and signatures away. It's time to quit worrying about whats best for us financially and start thinking about whats right. Legalization might hit our wallets a little but we can probably just grow more and most important of all, the sickest folks who need meds the most wouldn't have to wait a single freakin day!
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In a perfect world your legalization scenario would work like that.

What's more realistic is that legalization will open the door for big pharma to move in and monopolize the market. Then the hypothetical cancer patient can pay through the nose to get some big pharma ganja. Not a very good scenario, imo.
 
tricloud

tricloud

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st0wandgrow said:
In a perfect world your legalization scenario would work like that.

What's more realistic is that legalization will open the door for big pharma to move in and monopolize the market. Then the hypothetical cancer patient can pay through the nose to get some big pharma ganja. Not a very good scenario, imo.
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Is this whats happening in the 2 states that legalized? Not so far.......
 
needlesnpins

needlesnpins

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Cory and trevor said:
would bud tenders be subject to criminal charges then as well?
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i would think that bud tenders woud have a easy time dodging charges as long as they have their card. there are many parts in the law that say being in the vicinity does not mean you are doing anything wrong. at the end of the day it depends on the prosecutor and how confident they are.
 
kountdown

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Copied from MLive:

Hey folks, just updated this post with reaction from Schuette. Today's ruling, according to his office, makes clear that:

"The 'medical use' of marijuana under the MMMA limits marijuana transfers or sales to a registered caregiver and that caregiver’s five registered qualifying patients, as connected through the State’s medical marijuana registry;

"The MMMA does not offer immunity to a registered qualifying patient who sells or transfers marijuana to another registered qualifying patient; and,

"The MMMA does not offer immunity to a registered primary caregiver who sells or transfers marijuana to anyone other than a registered qualifying patient to whom the caregiver is connected through the State’s medical marijuana registry."
 
DemonTrich

DemonTrich

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well what can WE do to help resolve/change/reform this obvious slam to the MMJ community? or is it left to the 3 bench-writing idiots?
 
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