febreeze is good ona is better.... What about this... Go to your local sports shop and buy a spray bottle of odor killer or scent away in the hunting section. Its used to eliminate smells so deer cant smell hunters. It smells like nothing, my stealth grow box with four flowering (week 7) deisel ryders smells like nothing...no perfumey, urinal cakey, skunky odor, jus plain nothing. The bucket is a fantastic idea jus pick what you want to put in it. I use wildlife scent killer which is completely organic and made from plant enzymes so there arent any chemicals floating around my babes. Just a thought
DIY Febreze Odor Control Bucket
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brokeandwise
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Great idea.
Mindmelted
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Great post....
DannyGreenEyes
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I don't have to worry much about the smell in the house, just the smell outside the house. I'm about to start my first grow & will probably be venting by using a bathroom exhaust.
Has anyone tried to convert this to an "inline" odor eliminator?
(run the room exhaust duct in through the side at the top of the bucket, then bend it 90 degrees downward so it goes into the febreeze/solution. Then run the buckets exhaust from the top of the bucket, then up and out of the house - no vent holes in the side of the bucket)
My portable A/C reports a supposed 261psi on it's exhaust. I don't really beleive it's that strong, but it does shoot out a good ammount of air. I'm just concerned that I might have febreeze shooting out the vent in my roof.
Has anyone tried to convert this to an "inline" odor eliminator?
(run the room exhaust duct in through the side at the top of the bucket, then bend it 90 degrees downward so it goes into the febreeze/solution. Then run the buckets exhaust from the top of the bucket, then up and out of the house - no vent holes in the side of the bucket)
My portable A/C reports a supposed 261psi on it's exhaust. I don't really beleive it's that strong, but it does shoot out a good ammount of air. I'm just concerned that I might have febreeze shooting out the vent in my roof.
MikeyPeenz
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Anyone have any pics of this setup??? sounds like a great plan, very cost effective!
DannyGreenEyes
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Ok everyone, I loved this idea but I needed an inline odor remover, so I modified it some. I haven't used it yet because the room doesn't smell yet, but I'm confident it will work with the right odor remover.
I was going to try a septic tank odor remover but I decided to try ONA first since it came so highly recomended. But feel free to use anything, because of the fan placement nothing will be able to backtrack into your growroom.
Here's a list of parts & approximate costs:
6" Duct, 25 feet long: $28 (you may or may not need this)
In line fan: $30
Extension Cord: $12
Bucket: $2
Lid: $1
Duct Tape: $7
Plastic Epoxy: $8
Odor Eliminator - Depends on what you use.
The first pic is what the unit looks like when done.
The second pic shows the first step. Drill a hole the size of your inline fan (in line fan should be the same size as your duct work). You'll need a drill for this. They make special drill bits to make 4", 6", or 8" holes, but I just used a regular 1/4' bit, but I don't recomend it as it's not easy. Once the hole is drilled put the inline fan in the hole and be sure that the fan is pointed into the bucket and not away from it. Use epoxy made for plastic to set it in place, this will make it sturdy. Then use masking tape to tape both sides of the bucket, make sure their are no air leaks. Next you'll want to wire your fan, just take an extension cord and cut off the end, that's the cheapes way to go. Splice that with the fans wires, use caps, and don't forget to tape it well. Last part of this step is putting the duct work in the bucket to force the air through the odor eliminator. Cut it just a little longer than you need it to be to keep pressure on it so it will stay in the liquid once turned on. Then tape that on as well. This will be the hardest part because your working with tape in a tight area, but take your time with it as it's an important step. Pic 3 shows how it should look.
Note: Some hardware stores have drill presses and can make the cuts for you.
Pic 4 & 5 show the lid. Cut the same size hole that you cut earler into the center of the lid. Use tape to tape both sides and cut the duct as long as you need it to be.
Pic 6 shows a special attatchement that clips into a window piece so I can use a window to vent. If you have a special attatchement like this attatch it last, if not then do whatever you need to do so it can be hooked up where ever you need it to be.
The last pic is of the ONA, I bought both the Gel and the rewetting solution because the liquid in the bottom of the bucket should be at least 2 or 3 inches deep, maybe more. If I need more than that I'll try diluting it with water a little. (also the gel by itself is thick and the thicker the liquid is the deeper it will need to be)
If the one fan isn't strong enough you may need to add a second fan. 2 Fans can be wired together to the same extension cord. But one fan should be plenty for most set ups.
I hope someone out there finds this usefull.
I was going to try a septic tank odor remover but I decided to try ONA first since it came so highly recomended. But feel free to use anything, because of the fan placement nothing will be able to backtrack into your growroom.
Here's a list of parts & approximate costs:
6" Duct, 25 feet long: $28 (you may or may not need this)
In line fan: $30
Extension Cord: $12
Bucket: $2
Lid: $1
Duct Tape: $7
Plastic Epoxy: $8
Odor Eliminator - Depends on what you use.
The first pic is what the unit looks like when done.
The second pic shows the first step. Drill a hole the size of your inline fan (in line fan should be the same size as your duct work). You'll need a drill for this. They make special drill bits to make 4", 6", or 8" holes, but I just used a regular 1/4' bit, but I don't recomend it as it's not easy. Once the hole is drilled put the inline fan in the hole and be sure that the fan is pointed into the bucket and not away from it. Use epoxy made for plastic to set it in place, this will make it sturdy. Then use masking tape to tape both sides of the bucket, make sure their are no air leaks. Next you'll want to wire your fan, just take an extension cord and cut off the end, that's the cheapes way to go. Splice that with the fans wires, use caps, and don't forget to tape it well. Last part of this step is putting the duct work in the bucket to force the air through the odor eliminator. Cut it just a little longer than you need it to be to keep pressure on it so it will stay in the liquid once turned on. Then tape that on as well. This will be the hardest part because your working with tape in a tight area, but take your time with it as it's an important step. Pic 3 shows how it should look.
Note: Some hardware stores have drill presses and can make the cuts for you.
Pic 4 & 5 show the lid. Cut the same size hole that you cut earler into the center of the lid. Use tape to tape both sides and cut the duct as long as you need it to be.
Pic 6 shows a special attatchement that clips into a window piece so I can use a window to vent. If you have a special attatchement like this attatch it last, if not then do whatever you need to do so it can be hooked up where ever you need it to be.
The last pic is of the ONA, I bought both the Gel and the rewetting solution because the liquid in the bottom of the bucket should be at least 2 or 3 inches deep, maybe more. If I need more than that I'll try diluting it with water a little. (also the gel by itself is thick and the thicker the liquid is the deeper it will need to be)
If the one fan isn't strong enough you may need to add a second fan. 2 Fans can be wired together to the same extension cord. But one fan should be plenty for most set ups.
I hope someone out there finds this usefull.
DannyGreenEyes
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I don't know why the pics didn't post, must have timed out or something. Let me try to post them again and sorry for the mistake.
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DannyGreenEyes
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Just tried the unit with no odor eliminator. Bad news, it needs a stronger fan if you want to use 25' of duct, though I'm sure it's still good if you don't need to use much duct.
I'm out of funds for now so I wont be able to buy stronger fans and experiment for a bit. As soon as I know which fan is needed I'll post it.
I'm out of funds for now so I wont be able to buy stronger fans and experiment for a bit. As soon as I know which fan is needed I'll post it.
DannyGreenEyes
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Hey everyone, great news. I got her working without adding any additional fans. Let me tell you where I made my mistake last night so you don't make your own.
Earlier I told you to cut the duct inside the bucket just a little longer than you need to make sure the end stays in the fluid. Ignore that. Cut it so it hangs just a fraction of an inch above the bottom of the bucket when it's fully extended. If you cut it too long the air pressure will force the duct to expand and push the end of the duct into the bottom of the bucket which creates a barrier to the air that's just too hard for the fans to push past.
Right now I'm running it with no liquid inside the bucket, but I'll be adding the liquid soon as the room is begining to smell. Without liquid it's running perfect with good air pressure through the whole duct. Also I was able to cut off 4 foot of duct to make it easier for the air to get through. (there's now about 18ft of duct between the A/C's exhaust hose & the bucket)
When I add the liquid I'm guessing I'm going to have to make sure that it's not too thick. I'll try the rewetting liquid by itself first because the gel is very thick and the rewetting liquid is very thin. If the liquid will work without the gel then I'll trade in the gel for another bottle of rewetting liquid.
Unless you're using very little duct work I'd suggest using a thin liquid of your choosing, just make sure it's as thin as water if you can. If you're not attatching this to a portable A/C or something else with a fairly powerful fan, then I'd also suggest buying a more powerful fan that will handle the job. The $28 one at Home Depot is helpfull, but it's not real strong.
Earlier I told you to cut the duct inside the bucket just a little longer than you need to make sure the end stays in the fluid. Ignore that. Cut it so it hangs just a fraction of an inch above the bottom of the bucket when it's fully extended. If you cut it too long the air pressure will force the duct to expand and push the end of the duct into the bottom of the bucket which creates a barrier to the air that's just too hard for the fans to push past.
Right now I'm running it with no liquid inside the bucket, but I'll be adding the liquid soon as the room is begining to smell. Without liquid it's running perfect with good air pressure through the whole duct. Also I was able to cut off 4 foot of duct to make it easier for the air to get through. (there's now about 18ft of duct between the A/C's exhaust hose & the bucket)
When I add the liquid I'm guessing I'm going to have to make sure that it's not too thick. I'll try the rewetting liquid by itself first because the gel is very thick and the rewetting liquid is very thin. If the liquid will work without the gel then I'll trade in the gel for another bottle of rewetting liquid.
Unless you're using very little duct work I'd suggest using a thin liquid of your choosing, just make sure it's as thin as water if you can. If you're not attatching this to a portable A/C or something else with a fairly powerful fan, then I'd also suggest buying a more powerful fan that will handle the job. The $28 one at Home Depot is helpfull, but it's not real strong.
mulletator
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I love the inline bucket. I want to build a similar unit. In theory it is an awesome idea. It works similar to a bong.
Like a bong it will cool the air as well which will keep the cops' FLIR camera off your back. The only concern I have is the bubbling noise. How loud is your ONA bucket bong?
Like a bong it will cool the air as well which will keep the cops' FLIR camera off your back. The only concern I have is the bubbling noise. How loud is your ONA bucket bong?
Rattlehead121
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Looks like a Good idea. just wondering how you wired your fan. ive used a cell phone charger before but its not strong enough.
DannyGreenEyes
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Sorry, there's a problem with the design. I figured out a way around it, but haven't had time to update the thread yet.
It takes more air pressure than I thought to run the air through water. The cheapest & easiest fix.......
Take the duct in the bucket and pull it back (scrunch it up) the best you can, then take a nail & punch a hole through it at the bottom and take a twisty tie and put it through the hole & tie it.
The duct will want to expand when you let it go, but only the top will be allowed to expand. The bottom will be held by the twisty tie so it points down toward the water all my itself. Then fill the bucket to just below that duct so the air is blowing onto the water but not into the water.
You only need to use a little ONA in the water. And the water will evaporate pretty quickly. So fill it once a day with more water, and add a little ONA as needed.
The harder & more expensive fix.......
Buy a bigger & stronger in line fan, possibly a centrifugal in line fan, and replace the cheap one from Hope Depot at the bucket. Or just add it on to the existing cheap fan. You'll need a fan strong enough to push the air through the water.
An added advantage to this method is the water will become a filter to make sure no bugs make it into your room through the exhaust.
Another added bonus, you'll be able to fill the bucket with more water so you don't have to fill it as often (every 2 or 3 days instead of every day)
Caution: Dont fill the bucket beyond the bottom of the fan coming in from the side or you will get water in your duct.
Hope that helps, and I'll update this thread as soon as I get the chance.
DannyGreenEyes
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Just buy an extension cord and cut off the end. Strip the wires and splice them together with the wires from the fan. Use those screw on plastic caps over the splice and tape it up real good so it doesn't accidentally pull apart.
I don't remember what guage extension cord I used, but it wasn't too big. Just enough to handle the electric requirements of which ever fan you use.
mulletator
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A better fix would be to use a smaller diameter pipe going into the water. Reduce your duct to 2" or 1.5" pipe at the bucket and have a 4" duct coming out. Ever notice how the stem on your bong is way smaller than the mouth? It takes less pressure to pull air through a smaller pipe.
DannyGreenEyes
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I was with you for a minute, I thought you meant that decreasing the size of the duct would increase the air pressure, like they do with water & pipes. But the problem isn't pushing it through the duct, the problem is pushing the air through the water.
I didn't think it would take that much air pressure, but when I put the duct into the water the air just stopped. Even when I put it in shallow water.
If you try decreasing the size of the duct and it increases the air pressure enough to work, definately let me know.
SeanIzen
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I like your idea a lot, I was sold by that last part about plant enzymes... I'm really big about organics and chemicals. That was my first thought was that this was a GREAT cheap DIY way of eliminating smell but I dont really like using frebreeze just cause you know its nothing but foreign chemicals in ultra concentrated forms... basically this DIY plus the wildlife scent makes for an "im doing it tomorrow" deal
mulletator
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Exactly. My bucket design (i haven't built it yet) uses a 1.5" diameter pvc pipe going into the water (like the stem on a bong) and a 4" pvc pipe coming out. I'm using 4" ducts for my grow room exhaust. Attach your ducts to the pvc and you are ready to rock. I am 100% confident that it works. My only concern is how loud the bubbling noise might be because I'm trying to keep my operation super stealth.
DannyGreenEyes
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That idea might work, but remember that it's easier to push air than it is to pull it. You'll have to use a pretty strong fan before the bucket at some point.
But making the pathway smaller (starting at 6" and shrinking it down to 4" should make the pressure stronger if I remember my high school science correctly.
For the noise, closing the bucket will block out a lot of it. If that's not enough you can use soundproofing insulation from Home Depot or Lowes to cover the outside of the bucket & lid.
If this doesn't work, or if you can't block out the sound, then blowing the air onto the water with ONA in it removes the odor and comes out smelling like a freshly cleaned public bathroom. The only real advantage to running it through the water is the water will act as a bug filter.
If that's the case, you can buy a stove exhaust filter, a car filter, or a 3M allergen filter that's 1 micron or less and it should do the job on the bugs.
Keep us posted.
Top stuff mate +rep for sharing it