DIY with Quantum Boards

hillbill

hillbill

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The world of copycat and knock offs is mind boggling. Manufacturers in places like some big Asian and SE Asian make counterfeit goods that the original manufacturer cannot distinguish from their own. That don't even address cross branding from the same manufacturer. I try to go to the most trusted sources with high regard from their customers. Buyer beware and be aware!
 
see4

see4

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Stephenj37826 said:
You honestly don't know what you are talking about. The boards are made in Michigan. Also those knock off boards are our design. We designed them in the first quarter of 2016. They became very popular and these assholes can't even come up with there own original board. Glad you got them at a great deal. Hope you got what you paid for.
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Ok, prick. We can go down this road if you like...

Setting aside your snide attitude and shitty customer service...

You may have designed them here in the US, but you certainly did not manufacture them here. Those boards are made in China along with the diodes.

Congrats, you came up with a square and stuck some rectangle objects on them and called it a day.

Prove to me those boards and those diodes were made in the USA and I will concede and apologize. Otherwise quit being a shitty salesman and conning folks out of their hard earned money, you prick.

Prove to me that the manufacturer I linked is selling fakes and I will concede and apologize. Just because the boards don't look exactly the same doesn't mean they aren't producing the same output. If the diodes aren't Samsung, then I would agree they are fakes. If they are real Samsung diodes, then I made a smart move.

Lets break this down, prick...

You sell 2 boards + 1 heatsink + 1 driver + parts for around $350, if they are even in stock.

2 boards (if they are real) cost me (you) about $65
1 driver about $60 (hlg-240)
1 heatsink about $20
parts about $15

So for what costs about $160 you guys charge $350ish.

I get it, you are in the business to make money. But I'm in the business to get the best deal possible and not feel like Im being ripped off.

Something like this should be about 50-80% markup, especially if youre sourcing the stuff and selling it as "DIY". Your markup is a little over 100%. My personal opinion is you're charging a little much, and now that I see how you with people who don't agree, I would totally NEVER buy from you. prick.
 
nc208

nc208

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It really puzzles me the amount of people that come into this thread with their alibaba BS. The title of this specific thread is DIY with Quantum Boards(not DIY with LM561c). This thread is about people using the board made by HLG. Why does it seem like a good idea to go into a thread about a particular companies product and then start talking about cheaper knockoffs?
 
nc208

nc208

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see4 said:
There is a guarantee, alibaba has a return policy. I've purchased other things before and have returned them.

I don't find the price at bit odd. Not in the slightest. Companies need to make a profit, so they purchase goods for a lower price, then sell them for a higher price.

But again, if someone can prove that these boards aren't made in China/Taiwan/Asia, then I will stand corrected.
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Do you want me to smoke your weed for you too?
Seriously read the fucking thread and all these stupid questions and points you bring up have already been asked/dealt with.
 
see4

see4

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nc208 said:
Do you want me to smoke your weed for you too?
Seriously read the fucking thread and all these stupid questions and points you bring up have already been asked/dealt with.
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Yea, you can smoke some of my weed. It's pretty good stuff. I give it away all the time. Because I'm a nice guy.

I have skimmed the thread. Yet I've found nothing that changes the fact the diodes and boards are made in China. Which brings me back to my point, why spend $75 on something I can get for $30.... why? because some assclown in Michigan tells me that if I don't buy from him I'm an asshole.... yea, sound advice dude.

And lets just say, the boards are in fact made in Michigan, and somehow this small time, fly by night reseller shop has a contract with Samsung to produce diodes only for them, and the boards are super duper high end, every bit worth $75. For a $350 panel, that would mean they are charging $200 for a heatsink that costs about $15, a driver that costs about $60 and some parts that cost about $10. Yea... no thanks.

You don't know the meaning of DIY.
 
see4

see4

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nxsov180db said:
Were they previously made in China? I only ask because I spoke with an alibaba seller that claims he cannot sell 288 or 304 boards because of an agreement he has with another customer. I suppose that customer could also just be another seller trying to sell these boards that you designed..
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I highly doubt the PCBs are actually made in Michigan.

The OEM font on the boards in 100% indicative of Chinese made.
 
see4

see4

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the company has been around since May of last year. yea, totally invented a pcb and got a nda contract with samsung. yea totally believe you bro.
 
see4

see4

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no record of llc or inc in michigan or surrounding states to boot... unless of course they are dba.
 
see4

see4

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Doctor Derp said:
I better not use that times new roman font then, huh? I wouldn't want anyone to think that my work was made in china.


Do you even read your posts before you submit them?
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I often do yes. And yes, if you want to avoid having stuff thats made in China not look like its made in China, I would recommend to ask the manufacturer to use something other than the default font.

Hope that advice helps you.

Oh, and welcome to RIU, hope you enjoy your stay!
 
nc208

nc208

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see4 said:
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the company has been around since May of last year. yea, totally invented a pcb and got a nda contract with samsung. yea totally believe you bro.
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Obviously since it was 2 different companies before that came together, your response makes it look like you didn't even know this.

The NDA was not with samsung, you are too quick assuming everything your not even reading whats being told to you and you make up shit to support you. The NDA was with a company they used to create the first round of boards.
 
see4

see4

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nc208 said:
Obviously since it was 2 different companies before that came together, your response makes it look like you didn't even know this.

The NDA was not with samsung, you are too quick assuming everything your not even reading whats being told to you and you make up shit to support you. The NDA was with a company they used to create the first round of boards.
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Your logic is not sound. Try much harder.

Let's not go down this troll road. I'm pretty good at it.

Let's agree to disagree. I could care less if you want to pay more than twice as much for the same product.

And hey, when I get the gear and it's not what was advertised, I will 100% come back to this thread, post pictures and apologize.
 
Stephenj37826

Stephenj37826

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see4 said:
Ok, prick. We can go down this road if you like...

Setting aside your snide attitude and shitty customer service...

You may have designed them here in the US, but you certainly did not manufacture them here. Those boards are made in China along with the diodes.

Congrats, you came up with a square and stuck some rectangle objects on them and called it a day.

Prove to me those boards and those diodes were made in the USA and I will concede and apologize. Otherwise quit being a shitty salesman and conning folks out of their hard earned money, you prick.

Prove to me that the manufacturer I linked is selling fakes and I will concede and apologize. Just because the boards don't look exactly the same doesn't mean they aren't producing the same output. If the diodes aren't Samsung, then I would agree they are fakes. If they are real Samsung diodes, then I made a smart move.

Lets break this down, prick...

You sell 2 boards + 1 heatsink + 1 driver + parts for around $350, if they are even in stock.

2 boards (if they are real) cost me (you) about $65
1 driver about $60 (hlg-240)
1 heatsink about $20
parts about $15

So for what costs about $160 you guys charge $350ish.

I get it, you are in the business to make money. But I'm in the business to get the best deal possible and not feel like Im being ripped off.

Something like this should be about 50-80% markup, especially if youre sourcing the stuff and selling it as "DIY". Your markup is a little over 100%. My personal opinion is you're charging a little much, and now that I see how you with people who don't agree, I would totally NEVER buy from you. prick.
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I'll prove they are made in the USA. I'll post a link to YouTube shortly of them rolling out. I dint care if you can me prick or not. Customer Service LOL.... You aren't my customer.
 
Stephenj37826

Stephenj37826

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nxsov180db said:
Were they previously made in China? I only ask because I spoke with an alibaba seller that claims he cannot sell 288 or 304 boards because of an agreement he has with another customer. I suppose that customer could also just be another seller trying to sell these boards that you designed..
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Yes they where previously made in China. We've been very open about that and the fact that we moved production to the USA. MOQs are big to work with US companies and now we meet those.
 
Stephenj37826

Stephenj37826

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see4 said:
Your logic is not sound. Try much harder.

Let's not go down this troll road. I'm pretty good at it.

Let's agree to disagree. I could care less if you want to pay more than twice as much for the same product.

And hey, when I get the gear and it's not what was advertised, I will 100% come back to this thread, post pictures and apologize.
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Be prepared to do that.... Lol. Cobkits tested those same boards......
 
see4

see4

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Stephenj37826 said:
Yes they where previously made in China. We've been very open about that and the fact that we moved production to the USA. MOQs are big to work with US companies and now we meet those.
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MOQ is US manufacturing is generally in the 10s of thousands. Yet the boards seem to constantly be out of stock. Are you saying you sell 10s of thousands of these boards?

How are you working with a manufacturer in the US without being an LLC and having a reseller license? Or are you dba?
 
nc208

nc208

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LOL after seeing @see4's posts I dont think anyone would want him to be their customer.
see4 said:
Let's not go down this troll road. I'm pretty good at it.

Let's agree to disagree. I could care less if you want to pay more than twice as much for the same product.

And hey, when I get the gear and it's not what was advertised, I will 100% come back to this thread, post pictures and apologize.
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I agree with you here, you are good at being a troll.

I didn't buy a QB board, I bought strips off Alibaba and built my own light, so as someone whose already done everything you say your going to do about 4 months ago I grow tired of your stupid posts who haven't actually ordered or built anything but talk alot of shit like they have. Just like you probably tell people your not a virgin.
 
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