Do Not Vote For Legalization Or You Are Stupid

ford442

ford442

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that is the federal govt's doing.. funny stuff - but, i suspect that washington dc will stay right out of the equation except for hemp subsidies - the pot growers are the agribusinesses we have already - tobacco and corn companies - i heard that they had all the packaging and advertisements ready for legal weed back in 1996 - the cig companies are ready to step in and who knows - they could genetically grow buds the size of your head and package them for sale fresh at the gas station... :joint:
 
superherbsmoker

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ford442 said:
that is the federal govt's doing.. funny stuff - but, i suspect that washington dc will stay right out of the equation except for hemp subsidies - the pot growers are the agribusinesses we have already - tobacco and corn companies - i heard that they had all the packaging and advertisements ready for legal weed back in 1996 - the cig companies are ready to step in and who knows - they could genetically grow buds the size of your head and package them for sale fresh at the gas station... :joint:
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That would be cool, interesting to know about the packaging prepared by tobacco companies for legalization.

Somehow I have a hard time picturing them selling anything fresh at the gas-station, let alone marijuana, and genetically modified marijuana sounds like it would cause issues, like genetically modified foods are unhealthy, I want marijuana to stay as organic as possible.

So I guess there will be cheap genetic weed at the gas station, like buying a 40oz of beer, and there will be the organic weed that more expensive but much better and healthier too.
 
Riott

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superherbsmoker said:
Legalization would be great not stupid, and when it is, don't trust that government's shit until they know what they are doing, I live in Canada and the government herb here is shake, it's not good and it's fucking "irradiated", the THC is only 12.5% and there is no selection of strain, so it could be indica or sativa, how knows, if it was legal we could grow our own and save money and grow it better than the government, I'd rather buy it from a store that specializes in marijuana, like a dispensary does and government can tax them for their profits.

Check out what the government sells to patients for $5/gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsAL6gC-M24.
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Well I can almost guarentee if weed is legalized in the U.S., it will still be illegal to cultivate. You can thank capitalism for that, lol. The big businesses that start cultivating and selling it will make sure that happens. Well, maybe not, lol. Either way I mean I'd probably continue to grow sometimes as a hobby but if I could buy a pack a 20 perfectly rolled joints was like 6 or 7 bucks like cigarettes I wouldn't bother growing in larger amounts.
 
superherbsmoker

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Riott said:
Well I can almost guarentee if weed is legalized in the U.S., it will still be illegal to cultivate. You can thank capitalism for that, lol. The big businesses that start cultivating and selling it will make sure that happens. Well, maybe not, lol. Either way I mean I'd probably continue to grow sometimes as a hobby but if I could buy a pack a 20 perfectly rolled joints was like 6 or 7 bucks like cigarettes I wouldn't bother growing in larger amounts.
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Well I think that most people won't bother growing their own especially if they can get the strain of herb they want at the store!

In California they are most likely going to have an option in Nov to legalize for recreational use, plus having the ability to grow a 5x5 foot garden.

But people can make their own alcohol or tobacco and most don't bother to do that, and I think the same will be true for marijuana.

The only reason I would grow my own is if I couldn't find the strain's I want in the store, or if it would be cheaper to grow it myself, but if I can just walk down the street and get a great Sativa strain at a good price, hopefully less than what they sell on the street these days, I would go for that for sure.

To produce an ounce only cost's them maybe $25, so hopefully they aren't going to sell it for $250, I'd like to see the price come down to at least half or less for good herb.

Because if someone can spend a couple grand and grow their own for a year or more, the price would have to be low enough that people wouldn't bother growing because they wouldn't save money and can get the strain they want readily available at their local hemp store, or corner store.
 
Juggalomidgetfahker

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It will be legal soon...but if it is legalized it isn't going to be bad, it will allow us to grow our own legally. Under the Constitution they don't have the right to make it illegal and not to mention at least prosecution will stop so that alone will be worth it. They tax tabacco and you can still grow it...there are only positives with legalization. You no longer have to buy from shady people if it were sold in stores....and ya it may be expensive but just grow your own...
 
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kiddfarmer08

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I don't care what everyone thinks pot is not the magical healing plant and if you can use it for fuel why don't you utilize the resource and run it in your car instead of paying $3 a gal.
 
NightTrain

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Just wanted to say that the responses to the OP on this thread has had a lot of good points and info and links that have been very informative and interesting to read. Thanks everyone
 
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Absynthetics

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Resinator420 said:
If they were to legilize marijuana in the US ( that is were im talking about) The government would be creating a new REGULATED market. This means that you would be able to go to the gas station, or coffea shop or whatever and buy pot like beer. WHO CAN COMPETE WITH PERFECTLY ROLLD UP DOOBYS OF THE BEST SHIT???? CAN YOU???...... didnt thiknk so.....anyways back on track.

Right now about 80% of the cash earned by businesses in the US from retail sales comes from money that came from marijuana in one way or another. legilize it and about 90% of that money would dissapear meaning stores would close down, go out of business, people would go into debt, CHAOS.

Marijuana creates one of the biggest unregulated markets in the country with some 55MILLION people involved including people liek me and you. In a sense marijuana feuls america everyday. what do marijuana dealers do with the money they make???? THEY BUY SHIT, RANDOM SHIT CARS, BOATS, HOUSES, STOCKS, INVESTMENT, AND EVERYDAY THINGS FOOD, CLOTHS, GAS, HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS!! take this money, or market away from america and I think 60% of businesses would SIVEARLY suffer or all together shutdown. Alot of people would go crazy.

Decriminalization is a drastically different approach. If it were ever to happen, then think about it "all the users of your site could continue what they do everyday" the US continues to flourish like it does today except on average 185,000 people every year would be spared from jail, and we would save enough money from not having to house, feed, and jail these "criminals" (pot smokers, sellers) to bring our country out of this recession. Not to mention the millions we would save every year going after "weed criminals"

There would be millions and billions of dollars to spair for our coutry to use for valuable resources such as healthcare, military, and police for the REAL DRUGS cocaine, heroin, ect.

SO VOTE FOR DECRIMINALIZATION
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At first I was like who does this guy think he is but after the ignorant voice shut up and I read further I totally agree and it sickens me to get on the subject because its SO OBVIOUS that its unjust to criminalize a plant that George Washington grew in his backyard! If only Our Fore Fathers wrote a clause in the constitution protecting our dear friend Mary , we would have a more peaceful america, there are so many people who agree the Government is being Obtuse and Deliberate in their persecutions of our mothers, fathers, sisters, etc I dont know anyone who doesnt kno someone who benefits from Mj and isn't a crazed psycotic like lobbyist would have u think. I will do whatever i can for Decriminalizing Marijuana but i feel helpless because of the idiots controlling the government a.k.a puppeteers
nice to rave and rant packin to move where MMJ is only a migraine away ;)
 
BorgClone

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Resinator420 said:
I suggest a movie called the union if your really into the subject like me its awsome and itll make understand why im trying soo hard to convince people why im soooo for the decrim..


Your a smart man philo2
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in my area its decriminalized and it does not work... :finger: you still get busted and you still cant consume freely... also most people dont have acess to weed they smoke polen, compressed resin mostly is shit, some pakistan is good but all that fuels some monkey in the desert most times criminal organizations, im not sure how it is is America i will make sure to look for the union movie to get a clear idea!

rep up for the thread!
 
mjisgood21

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This is a bunch of Bullshit!
http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marijuana.html
IMO,Reason why it was illegal in the first place is just stupid.
It would cutdown some with "drugwars".
Smokers money would no longer supply druglords as much.
More people that relly deserve to be in jail,theyre will be more cells open.
Gov. would not be spending so much for mj related arrest,they would def. profit from it.
All the time they put into mj arrest,will be put into more serious crimes.
More people would actualy have a real job.
Mj is not a gateway.
Mj is not phisicly addictive.
Mj is equal to less harmful then what is legal.
Mj is natural,not manmade.

And for those who oppose.
So what if you lose profit,you can get a actual job & not be parinoid about random piss tests anymore.
Any smoke that goes into youre lungs is more then likely harmful,yes.
But compared to tobacco smoke,I would much rather choose mj.And id rather smell mj then tobacco when im outside.
Tobacco is legal,why not make mj legal?
Do you like people that rape & murder & get out sooner then someone that was just growing mj or just had possesion of mj?
Do you like buyin bud that you have no idea weither it has been grown right or not?
Do you like youre money going to support gangs & druglords doings?

I think the onely reason why its not legal is because theyres a shitlload more uses then just smoking it.If it didnt have so many other uses,i think it wouldve been legalized by now.
 
MrBlanco

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I admittedly haven't read this entire topic but I keep seeing the same thing said over and over, "it won't be legal to grow at home". What's the logic behind this? You can legally grow tobacco and brew beer for personal use. Those are the two substances most often compared when talking about legalization, right?

As the poster above me pointed out, legalization will do quite a bit to help society as a whole.
 
ford442

ford442

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mjisgood21 - what a terrible page to read! lol - that justice.gov page is full of propaganda.. you make a very good list of points there - if everyone understood those facts then pot would be legal tomorrow..!
 
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LegalizeFreedom

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I will say it again, Marijuana is illegal because of the FDA and Oil industry. It will never be legalized for recreational use. Marijuana legalization would cause almost every industry to go bankrupt. Marijuana would replace atleast 50% of all the industrys in the world.

Few of the industry that would get knocked off the map or be forced to evolve very quickly...

Pills = 50% of all pills would be useless.
Gas = 100% useless
Clothes = Entirely new processing required.
Paper = Tree harvesting would be null due to marijuana fields producting over 1000% faster and 1 Acre of marijuana is equal to 3 Acres of trees.
Rope = All rope would be hemp much stronger material
Metal = Hemp is 50% lighter and 200% stronger.

Economy = Crashed because of a plant that is too powerful for its own good :)
 
mrdrywall

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i dont want it legalized spent a bunch of dough getting started in growing big demand and if legalized it would be everywhere took massive pay cut at work if it wasnt for my grows lot of my bills would not get paid
 
mjisgood21

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LegalizeFreedom said:
I will say it again, Marijuana is illegal because of the FDA and Oil industry. It will never be legalized for recreational use. Marijuana legalization would cause almost every industry to go bankrupt. Marijuana would replace atleast 50% of all the industrys in the world.

Few of the industry that would get knocked off the map or be forced to evolve very quickly...

Pills = 50% of all pills would be useless.
Gas = 100% useless
Clothes = Entirely new processing required.
Paper = Tree harvesting would be null due to marijuana fields producting over 1000% faster and 1 Acre of marijuana is equal to 3 Acres of trees.
Rope = All rope would be hemp much stronger material
Metal = Hemp is 50% lighter and 200% stronger.

Economy = Crashed because of a plant that is too powerful for its own good :)
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True.But just because it would be legal,doesnt mean all companys & people are going to switch from whats been used to make & produce products,foods,medicne etc for years.Most people just want to smoke & dont relly care much for its other many uses.Veg oil & water can be used for fuel & theyre not illegal & haven't replaced fuel commercialy.
mrdrywall said:
i dont want it legalized spent a bunch of dough getting started in growing big demand and if legalized it would be everywhere took massive pay cut at work if it wasnt for my grows lot of my bills would not get paid
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Id rather get a legal job & not have to worry about geting fired over a piss test.And I could smoke freely without the worry of being busted & not being able to get loans,grants,certain jobs etc.It would make it easier for smokers to keep & hold a job.And what happens when a smoker loses their job or/& gets busted?The dealer has a loss of a regular buyer.
 
MacGuyver4.2.0

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LegalizeFreedom said:
I will say it again, Marijuana is illegal because of the FDA and Oil industry. It will never be legalized for recreational use. Marijuana legalization would cause almost every industry to go bankrupt. Marijuana would replace atleast 50% of all the industrys in the world.

Few of the industry that would get knocked off the map or be forced to evolve very quickly...

Pills = 50% of all pills would be useless.
Gas = 100% useless
Clothes = Entirely new processing required.
Paper = Tree harvesting would be null due to marijuana fields producting over 1000% faster and 1 Acre of marijuana is equal to 3 Acres of trees.
Rope = All rope would be hemp much stronger material
Metal = Hemp is 50% lighter and 200% stronger.

Economy = Crashed because of a plant that is too powerful for its own good :)
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This is worth a read and gives you ALOT more history of the hemp plant then you might have known.
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/6053-how-why-hemp-made-illegal.html#post51003
 
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