Do Ontario drivers have more rights than the rest of us ?

willieboy

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This article appeared on cannabislifenetwork.com on 21 July 2018. Is this, in fact, true ? Do drivers in Ontario have more rights than drivers here in Nova Scotia ? Should I tell the cop who pulls me over that I am approved by Health Canada for over ten years as a medical marijuana patient ?








Bill 174, aka the Cannabis, Smoke-Free Ontario and Road Statute Law Amendment Act, contains an important amendment to Ontario’s Highway Traffic Act.

The act states that:

“Exceptions are made to the rules respecting driving with a drug in the body if a police officer is satisfied that the driver is legally authorized to use the drug for medical purposes.”


What does Bill 147 mean for drivers?
Bill 174 came into force as soon as it received Royal Assent, which was back in December 2017, and while it is great that the Ontario government has recognized that medicating does not automatically mean intoxicated, it still leaves it up to the officer’s discretion. It’s not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

For all other non-medical users, if an officer decides to test you for drug-impaired driving, you’d have to do a standard field sobriety test followed by a Drug Recognition Evaluation. If you failed those, you would have to provide a urine sample and face impaired driving charges if it comes up positive.

More police powers
Right now, the police need to suspect that you’re impaired before they test you, but Bill C-46 is removing that requirement, giving the police the power to pull you over and test you whenever they feel like it, even if you’re driving perfectly fine.

It’s also worth noting that the machines the government is planning on using to conduct saliva tests for THC will stop detecting it after 6-8 hours. That’s an awfully long time to wait before driving if you want to be 100% in the clear.

This has led to a lot of confusion and uncertainty, especially with the increased penalties for drug-impaired driving enacted under Bill C-46, and it’s great that Ontario carved out an exemption for medical users, but it still leaves all the recreational users wondering how much they can take and how long they have to wait before jumping behind the wheel again.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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My guess is that this law will be applied for other provinces as well. If you are charged in Nova Scotia, your lawyer could use Ontario law to discredit the Crowns' assessment that you were impaired. I'm going to use it in BC if needed.
 

bearded.beaver

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No we are just better drivers here.
Joking
The driving laws are changing constantly. I'm sure over the next few years you will be seeing more changes. Some worse some better. We just have to hope that in the end, patients get the rights they deserve. And thus coming from a recreational user
 

CalyxCrusher

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My guess is that this law will be applied for other provinces as well. If you are charged in Nova Scotia, your lawyer could use Ontario law to discredit the Crowns' assessment that you were impaired. I'm going to use it in BC if needed.
Not too sure if that would work being as it's provincial law and not Federal. Kind of like grow rights and sales are provincial decisions.
 
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bearded.beaver

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One concern I have is that they don't need reasonable cause to ask for a test. I'm afraid that they will have check points like M.A.D.D. not only that but the dreager unit have had false positives. Your life would be turned to chaos
 
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GreenHighlander

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This article appeared on cannabislifenetwork.com on 21 July 2018. Is this, in fact, true ? Do drivers in Ontario have more rights than drivers here in Nova Scotia ? Should I tell the cop who pulls me over that I am approved by Health Canada for over ten years as a medical marijuana patient ?








Bill 174, aka the Cannabis, Smoke-Free Ontario and Road Statute Law Amendment Act, contains an important amendment to Ontario’s Highway Traffic Act.

The act states that:

“Exceptions are made to the rules respecting driving with a drug in the body if a police officer is satisfied that the driver is legally authorized to use the drug for medical purposes.”


What does Bill 147 mean for drivers?
Bill 174 came into force as soon as it received Royal Assent, which was back in December 2017, and while it is great that the Ontario government has recognized that medicating does not automatically mean intoxicated, it still leaves it up to the officer’s discretion. It’s not a get-out-of-jail-free card.

For all other non-medical users, if an officer decides to test you for drug-impaired driving, you’d have to do a standard field sobriety test followed by a Drug Recognition Evaluation. If you failed those, you would have to provide a urine sample and face impaired driving charges if it comes up positive.

More police powers
Right now, the police need to suspect that you’re impaired before they test you, but Bill C-46 is removing that requirement, giving the police the power to pull you over and test you whenever they feel like it, even if you’re driving perfectly fine.

It’s also worth noting that the machines the government is planning on using to conduct saliva tests for THC will stop detecting it after 6-8 hours. That’s an awfully long time to wait before driving if you want to be 100% in the clear.

This has led to a lot of confusion and uncertainty, especially with the increased penalties for drug-impaired driving enacted under Bill C-46, and it’s great that Ontario carved out an exemption for medical users, but it still leaves all the recreational users wondering how much they can take and how long they have to wait before jumping behind the wheel again.

Yes they do seem to have more rights then the rest of the country. I imagine once the first cases play out in court other provinces will have to follow suit. \
My personal plan if pulled over ( I am also in Nova Scotia) is to state I am a medical patient and that I am not impaired. Anything other then that they can go to hell. I will not be doing any mouth swabs or bullshit blood giving since neither have anything to do with proving impairment.
I was pulled over last thursday for speeding. The officer mentioned a warrant from Ontairio from almost 20 years ago lol, but didn't say anything about weed. I was medicated but didn't smoke in the car. I very rarely do if ever.
They will not get a swab or blood from me without them having to use force to do so.

Cheers :)
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Not too sure if that would work being as it's provincial law and not Federal. Kind of like grow rights and sales are provincial decisions.
Impaired driving is a federal charge, which is why they can introduce the legislation they just did in Ottawa for booze. Provinces can add their own laws. The med cannabis rule that Ontario has adopted would only be valid in Ontario, but the research, thinking and professional opinion that brought about that law can be used in any province to argue the same points. A BC judge would either have to agree with it or rule that Ontario law is flawed.
 

Farmer.J

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Impaired driving is a federal charge, which is why they can introduce the legislation they just did in Ottawa for booze. Provinces can add their own laws. The med cannabis rule that Ontario has adopted would only be valid in Ontario, but the research, thinking and professional opinion that brought about that law can be used in any province to argue the same points. A BC judge would either have to agree with it or rule that Ontario law is flawed.
Let's hope the first judge agrees
 

Jefferson1977

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One concern I have is that they don't need reasonable cause to ask for a test.


They do for cannabis, not alcohol. Although you would not know it from reading the news, hopefully the Police know it!! If not, remind them.

Unlike the breathalyzer, an officer must have a reasonable suspicion the driver has consumed drugs before asking for a saliva sample.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/impaired-driving-legislation-c46-charter-1.4109942
 
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