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Do you have to decarb before baking?

Discussion in 'Cooking With Cannabis' started by ayr0n, Sep 4, 2014.

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    ayr0n

    ayr0n Well-Known Member

    So I'm a little confused about how to properly make cookies w/ cannabis...I planned on just grinding up a couple oz of trim and popcorn bud, simmering it in butter for a while, straining it out and then baking some cookies - but a lot of resources mention decarbing before making cannabutter...my question is do you have to decarb if you're going to bake it anyways? Wouldn't it decarb while baking the cookies, making it unnecessary to do prior to making the butter?

    Basically I've only got like a 4-5 hour timespan to cook tonight before we take off for a music festival tomorrow morning n i'd like to get these as potent as possible n that limited time...
     
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    tyson53

    tyson53 Well-Known Member

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    BobBitchen

    BobBitchen Well-Known Member

    http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/
    http://www.rollitup.org/t/badkats-c...e-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.412878/
     
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    ayr0n

    ayr0n Well-Known Member

    meh...I get why we decarb it, I just don't understand why it wouldn't decarb while baking? Seems like if you decarb, then use heat to make butter, then use heat again to bake, at a certain point it would be counterproductive and actually reduce potency?
     
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    tyson53

    tyson53 Well-Known Member

    the gassing off of the chlrophyl will just be retained in the butter...giving it a hay taste....and changing the compisition of the THC is not as effective when cooking with de carb
     
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    BobBitchen

    BobBitchen Well-Known Member

    my understanding of Decab'ing,
    is the fat/butter & internal temp won't allow the decarb process when cooking
    Badkats process is killer for hash caps

    good luck & enjoy

    ✌ bob
     
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    ayr0n

    ayr0n Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys - i'll give it a go!

    So the plan is:
    Grind up 2oz of trim / popcorn bud
    Decarb for ~20 minutes on 225
    Simmer 4 sticks of butter w/ the ground up decarbed bud for an hour-ish...
    Strain out plant material to seperate from Budder
    Then mix n bake cookies


    Sound about right?

    @BobBitchen those recipes look awesome. I'll have to try some of those out when I've got a little more time. Really thorough guide too. Thx for the links
     
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    BobBitchen

    BobBitchen Well-Known Member

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    tyson53

    tyson53 Well-Known Member

    get some cheese cloth or a old clean t shirt to wring out the wet trim for some extra butter ...if you have a double boiler a pan in a pan it helps ....no burning of the butter in the pan...put water in bottom pan ..set another pan inside that....but about 4 inches of water in bottom pan..that way its clearified butter almost..no burning it
     
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    ayr0n

    ayr0n Well-Known Member

    I'll have to pick up a cheesecloth, n do a little research on clarifying butter lol. The limit of my cooking experience is like making ramen noodles in the microwave so........
     
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    BobBitchen

    BobBitchen Well-Known Member

    look into coco oil instead of butter.....
     
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    spek9

    spek9 Well-Known Member

    What I do after the cheesecloth is wrung out, is throw it (with the product still inside) in a ziploc baggie and freeze it. They make perfect stuffing for chicken. Gives it a nice aroma and leaves you with a slightly mellow relaxation feeling after eating. I then make chicken noodle soup after making broth with the remnants.

    I like to get as many uses out of the product as possible :)

    -spek
     
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    spek9

    spek9 Well-Known Member

    I do this very often. Sometimes I specifically want the butter flavour, but coco is higher in fat content, so I use it primarily.

    -spek
     
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    qwizoking

    qwizoking Well-Known Member

    Coconut is much better than butter for many reasons. Add water to the coconut weed mix so you can add more weed and polar nasties drive towards the water. If you can't use hash oil and saturate, that's the best way.
    When baking internal temps don't get very high and won't fully decarb unless you like burn it lol. But yea your right in that thinking. Making edibles in the manner we describe is why they're usually pretty sedative. I understand you don't have time to make a batch of hash. Shit by now its already done prolly. I don't use weed and an oil so I couldn't tell you extraction times but if you simmer in that for an hour to extract and then bake I would consider it decarbed. I know when saturating coconut oil with hash it happens in minutes
     
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    Yessica...

    Yessica... Well-Known Member

    About to decarb for the first time before I put it in the crockpot.

    So - I have read a bunch of different things, and times.

    Do I cover it with tinfoil?

    I have read 10 mins in a 225 degree oven, with the oven OFF.

    I have also read 30 mins, at 225 degrees - with the oven ON.

    Any suggestions on the best method?
     
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    BobBitchen

    BobBitchen Well-Known Member

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    Yessica...

    Yessica... Well-Known Member

    Awesome - thanks!

    My medicine is from a Canadian LP - so she suggested with buds that may be a little older or very dry to use an oven temperature of 220 degrees, and for about 20 mins.

    I am then going to crock pot it, strain it, and mix it in with honey and also soy lecithin to aid digestion.

    I'll post pictures when I am done.

    Thanks for the link!
     
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    ayr0n

    ayr0n Well-Known Member

    My cookies might as well have been benadryl or Nyquil cuz they knocked my ass out. Crashed at like 11 n I'm normally the last guy standing :/ had a good high but the sedative effect was a little overkill.

    We went with a oz of trim and a half oz of bud to 4 sticks of butter. The recipe called for 1/2 cup n I think I put 3/4 of a cup in...the results weren't disappointing but def not something u want during the day
     
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    bud nugbong

    bud nugbong Moderator

    I did my first batch of cookies last week. I didn't feel the need to decarb because all the stuff was harvested 11+months ago. Made up fairly strong batch of butter (20 hrs in crocpot) and easy cookies. One thing I noticed, I didn't feel the need to smoke for most of the day. Usually every few hours I like to take a few rips off the pipe. when on edibles no need to smoke all day :mrgreen: ...healthy on the lungs!
     
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    Yessica...

    Yessica... Well-Known Member

    My mom is now medicating on cookies alone.

    And same thing! When I eat, I rarely smoke anything.
     

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