Do You Support Child Abuse ... ???

medicineman

New Member
Man, you are so fucking deluded by your incessant envy, jealousy and greed. There's an old saying ... "to get less of something, tax it."

What we need are MORE capital gains not less. I mean, at what point will your stone-blind tax increases decrease the incentives to produce? At what point will your punishing tax burden finally crush the spirit of enterprise?

Vi
What a deluded hole you are. Capital gains are just that, gains in capital, meaning more money going in to your bank account. What law of economics presupposes that money will be spent to create jobs??? It will more than likely be saved and squirelled away, basically taken out of circulation. In this economic climate, even the rich dicks aren't spending, so cutting taxes would only affect the higher income people and they would just salt it away. Tell me again how cutting taxes would help the poor and unemployed, OH that's right, you can't.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Again, Med ... At what point will your punishing tax burden finally crush the spirit of free enterprise?

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Again, Med ... At what point will your punishing tax burden finally crush the spirit of free enterprise?

Vi
Uhhhh, you didn't answer the question. I'll repeat it. Tell me how cutting taxes will help the unemployed and the poor in this economic climate????
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Uhhhh, you didn't answer the question. I'll repeat it. Tell me how cutting taxes will help the unemployed and the poor in this economic climate????
The idea isn't to help the unemployed and the poor, the idea is to get them back to work. To get the capable of supporting themselves again, and thus, tax cuts and tax breaks work towards that goal.

Unlike you, I really don't think that the unemployed and the poor are happy with their condition, but you seem to be perfectly content with them being poor and unemployed, and want to subsidize their condition thus keeping them in it.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
While I agree, there are certain programs that can not be filled effectively by the private sector. Tell me the poor will be provided for when we pull welfare, unemployment insurance, Medicare, ect.

We currently spend more money per person on medical care than any other developed country yet we lack free social medical care.

I can't agree with leaving the impoverished to suffer even more even if the current system is inefficient and wasteful. :peace:
Have you considered the effects of lawyers on the price of Medicine?

It's not right for surgeons to pay $144,000/year in Medical Liability Insurance.

Especially when they haven't done anything to warrant having to pay.

Lawyers, Politicians and Bureaucrats - three classes that should be killed off and exterminated...

Where's Miss, we need a few thousand Guillotines.
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
The idea isn't to help the unemployed and the poor, the idea is to get them back to work.
a self-sufficient citizenry is not in the best interests of the liberal establishment (or government in general) and it never has been. a population dependent on government charity, working in a government controlled marketplace and living in an economy manipulated by the government is a population at the mercy of the bureaucracy they have created. their labors serve only to further the aims of their masters.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Uhhhh, you didn't answer the question. I'll repeat it. Tell me how cutting taxes will help the unemployed and the poor in this economic climate????
It has been explained to you at least a hundred times by me and others here in the forum. I'm afraid your brain is made of concrete, Med. Hello ... anyone in there? :dunce:

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
It has been explained to you at least a hundred times by me and others here in the forum. I'm afraid your brain is made of concrete, Med. Hello ... anyone in there? :dunce:

Vi
Well, dimwit. I refuted your arguement that by giving business owners and millionaires tax breaks in this financial climate would solve everything. what are needed are jobs, and unless the "government" creates jobs by re-building our failing infrastructure and bails out states that are considering laying off thousands, this economy will never get started again. Just giving tax breaks to the already rich doesn't create one stinking job, no-one will hire anybody in this climate unless there is more work for them, Tax breaks for millionaires is rediculous, Bush tried it it failed, where are the jobs from the bush tax cuts??? We need stimulus from the bottom up, those people will spend the money providing stimulous to retailers and producers alike. There is no point in showing you the facts. You are so bent to the right, nothing can change you, so sorry.
 

newbnovice

New Member
op-that is such a ignorant statement i do not know what to think about it. From your post it sounds like you lean to the right... which does not make to much sense
 

IanCurtisWishlist

Well-Known Member
In answer to the question posed in the title of this thread.

Yes, I love child abuse. I am actually thinking of starting a child abuse fan club where other child abusers can join on the internet. Then we can get together and talk about child abuse, and our love of child abuse, and it will be very similar to rollitup.org, and how we all discuss marijuana on here, except we will be talking about how to abuse children rather than growing marijuana.

what the fuck is the point of this thread?
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
What a deluded hole you are. Capital gains are just that, gains in capital, meaning more money going in to your bank account. What law of economics presupposes that money will be spent to create jobs??? It will more than likely be saved and squirelled away, basically taken out of circulation. In this economic climate, even the rich dicks aren't spending, so cutting taxes would only affect the higher income people and they would just salt it away. Tell me again how cutting taxes would help the poor and unemployed, OH that's right, you can't.
Med O' Mao

Do you not understand that savings creates money that can be loaned out to people aspiring to start businesses, and thus will create jobs?

Do you not understand that the biggest problem facing our nation is an over extension of credit with out sufficient savings and investment to back it?

How do you expect companies like GM, Ford, Chrysler, the NY Times, and others to be profitable if they can not afford the usury on the loans that they have taken?

Usury that is so high, due to a lack of savings and investment in the United States?

As far as your statement about capital gains, you're also neglecting the fact that the average American is likely to see capital gains from their houses when they sell them.

(Not that such gains are likely to be real, when you consider the fact that the average American also pays 2x more than a house is worth, and thus would have to see 100% profit after paying the mortgage, or would have to sell well before the mortgage amortized. Also, you can't neglect to add the cost of property taxes into the mix, which are another cost that decreases the actual capital gains from selling a house.)

Though I'm curious, where do you stand on switching to gold/silver backed currency?
 

medicineman

New Member
Med O' Mao

Do you not understand that savings creates money that can be loaned out to people aspiring to start businesses, and thus will create jobs?

Do you not understand that the biggest problem facing our nation is an over extension of credit with out sufficient savings and investment to back it?

How do you expect companies like GM, Ford, Chrysler, the NY Times, and others to be profitable if they can not afford the usury on the loans that they have taken?

Usury that is so high, due to a lack of savings and investment in the United States?

As far as your statement about capital gains, you're also neglecting the fact that the average American is likely to see capital gains from their houses when they sell them.

(Not that such gains are likely to be real, when you consider the fact that the average American also pays 2x more than a house is worth, and thus would have to see 100% profit after paying the mortgage, or would have to sell well before the mortgage amortized. Also, you can't neglect to add the cost of property taxes into the mix, which are another cost that decreases the actual capital gains from selling a house.)

Though I'm curious, where do you stand on switching to gold/silver backed currency?
Again, let me be clear. Giving millionaires, and business owners a tax cut, although cherished by both, will not stimulate the economy. What the economy needs is "JOBS" and a trickle up economy. The people most likely to spend the stimulus money are the poor and unemployed. The rich would just hoard it. Why would they hire more people if no-one was spending. It is totally useless to give the rich more money, Jesus Christ, when will they ever get enough?? I am in favor of opening lines of credit for business owners, but giving them money is useless, it would just go to the bottom line.
 

lopezri

Well-Known Member
Hey, there's MedicineMan. I've been wondering where you are. I haven't seen you in a while. Would you mind if I sent you a private e-mail?
 

medicineman

New Member
In answer to the question posed in the title of this thread.

Yes, I love child abuse. I am actually thinking of starting a child abuse fan club where other child abusers can join on the internet. Then we can get together and talk about child abuse, and our love of child abuse, and it will be very similar to rollitup.org, and how we all discuss marijuana on here, except we will be talking about how to abuse children rather than growing marijuana.

what the fuck is the point of this thread?
You have to ask VI. He has toned it towards lefties, pinkos, commies, liberals, and progressives, all which are the same to him. I think he was referring to the bailout as abusing him like a child, or something similar. He is so anti-tax that the mere mention of the word sends him spinning. Something about him being caught cheating on his income tax and being audited. He hasn't been quite the same since. Goes off on stinkin commie rants all the time. I think he may need professional help.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Again, let me be clear. Giving millionaires, and business owners a tax cut, although cherished by both, will not stimulate the economy. What the economy needs is "JOBS" and a trickle up economy. The people most likely to spend the stimulus money are the poor and unemployed. The rich would just hoard it. Why would they hire more people if no-one was spending. It is totally useless to give the rich more money, Jesus Christ, when will they ever get enough?? I am in favor of opening lines of credit for business owners, but giving them money is useless, it would just go to the bottom line.
Did I mention anything about giving them money?

I just said that you're failing to understand that people need to be allowed to get off their asses and earn their own way. Subsidizing their laziness is not a solution. Giving some one that does not have a job money is not going to motivate them to get a job.

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