Does my OG Kush plants look too skinny and weak to produce a decent yeild?

Please Kush Growers!!! Help me out with your opinions...everything is going good except im really concerned about the vigor my plants lack...they look really skinny and weak to me but i dont know for sure....maybe their stretching too much or something?
Let me know guys!!
Thanks in advance!!

Heres the link to the most recent update to my journal!!
https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog13132-og-kush-blue-dream-master.html

Happy Growing!

WOW, those must be some special yoga strain they have stretched so much.

They will yield but chalk this grow up to "learning by not doing it correctly". Ok, now that the beat down is over..

You need to get your lights much closer. If your using floro or CFL, they need to be like 2 inches away. Controlling the heat during the day and how much they cool at night will decrease stretch. Keep temps below 80 at all times! and don't let it get colder than 70 at night.

You would do well to top a stretchy strain like that early on in the grow to produce more shoots /bud sites. This is especially true if your not using HID lights as other lights lack penetrating power so you want one big wide canopy. Everything else is just going to be popcorn buds.

And last but not least...and THIS is the biggest reason your not going to yield much. You pulled off all the fan leaves to "divert energy to the flowers" but in actuality, you eliminated most of the leaf surfaces that generate the energy that would have grown those buds. There is some debate about it and situation vary depending on grow style, but in general, never pull a fan leave off unless it is directly blocking light to a bud site.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for the super quick reply! The beatdown was gladly accepted..lols ok now for the facts..
I just switched from 400w to 600w HPS and i had it closer (about 3-4ft above tops) untill the tops started curling up and looking burnt. (too lazy to properly adjust lights, so i put them all the way at the top again....ooopss)
Ive read that True OG kush stretches quite a bit during veg and starts to fill in during flower...but they probably shouldnt stretch that much.
In regards to the fan leaves i agree 100% i started to feel like that was a mistake as i was finishing it up....haha well luckily its early in flower and maybe they will produce more leaves to help produce.

As far as the temps...i only have 1 6inch 315cfm exhuast fan with no intake fan....so im doing my best but i plan to buy my second fan within a month for sure!!

Thanks bro!! Thats more info for my next run!!

About 18-24" is a good distance for the 600. Curl is usually something else. Over heated leaves tend to fold, but they can curl as well. Hard to say without knowing more. Night time temp difference plays the biggest roll in stretch. Google preventing stretch, there is a good article out there. I read it about a year ago.

They even suggested petting the tops of the plants. Which believe it or not, does have a roll in some plants.

Close lights, warm nights.

Ach man, don't fret, they will be fine, and will still give you a decent yield. One thing about the OG Kush I have grown, there is not a great deal of foliage on these so don't be pulling any of it off.

MISCONCEPTION - Removing fan leaves help a plant...absolutely not true, photosynthesis occurs in the fan leaves, they are there to create carbo's etc for your plant to grow. Even if they are blocking a bud, I WOULD STILL NOT REMOVE. Why? well becuase that fan leaf that is blocking the bud is probably a feeder for another bud, or even the bud you are trying to expose to the light. Plant looks green because they reflect green light spectrum, where your plant looks green, photosynthesis occurs the most (i.e FAN leaves). Ok, now that I have calmed down, lol. Here's what I would do (and I have grown OG kush's for years)

Kush strains come from the Kush Hindu Kush area. A friend of mine who lived in Pakistan had kush plants growing outside his house wild, and they grow massively stretchy (easily past the seond story floor). That's just the genetics. Now when applying the grow to inside you need to try and overcome this problem. You are still well within time for training these ladies. I train all the way through flower with my OG's and Kush related strains. They still look reasonably thin so bending them is NOT going to be a problem. Stick a stake or pole into each pot. Take the top of the plant and just gently bend it down and tie it off. You are effectively creating an arch, just like Macdonalds, but it's a Kush arch! This will start to strengthen the stem and also start to create multiple top colas for you to grow. As they stretch, train them as needs be.
Near the end of the cycle, reduce your lights if it is getting to hot. Ideally even heighten the distance between the kush and the light. They like cold temperatures. If possible try to get them dropping at least 15degrees overnight to peak daytime temp. This should also bring out some nice colour ranges in your plant.

Good luck with it. And happy growing.

Peace, DST

@LegallyFlying Thanks man...i guess ill try to lower my light again and see how that goes!
@DST Thanks Bro!! You sound very educated when it comes to OG Kush... I was researching if i could still train/bend the plants while in flower and have been getting mixed responses but hearing this from you i will go ahead and start training them as soon as i get stakes. Thanks again and i hope you guys check in once in a while to overlook my grow....(Guardian growers!! ) LOLs I will post updates in a couple weeks!!

legallyflying said:

WOW, those must be some special yoga strain they have stretched so much.

They will yield but chalk this grow up to "learning by not doing it correctly". Ok, now that the beat down is over..

You need to get your lights much closer. If your using floro or CFL, they need to be like 2 inches away. Controlling the heat during the day and how much they cool at night will decrease stretch. Keep temps below 80 at all times! and don't let it get colder than 70 at night.

You would do well to top a stretchy strain like that early on in the grow to produce more shoots /bud sites. This is especially true if your not using HID lights as other lights lack penetrating power so you want one big wide canopy. Everything else is just going to be popcorn buds.

And last but not least...and THIS is the biggest reason your not going to yield much. You pulled off all the fan leaves to "divert energy to the flowers" but in actuality, you eliminated most of the leaf surfaces that generate the energy that would have grown those buds. There is some debate about it and situation vary depending on grow style, but in general, never pull a fan leave off unless it is directly blocking light to a bud site.

I hope this helps.

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fatten the stalk up with some circulating fans. Most the OG's or crosses of such I grown have larger node spacing and has the same vertical pheno. Topping and fimming would be nice and to shorten her a bit. I think they look fine and depending on how long you veg and what size bucket you finish with you wil get 2-4 ounces indoors from my experience with 5 gal pot and buckets

Scoopdizzle said:

Please Kush Growers!!! Help me out with your opinions...everything is going good except im really concerned about the vigor my plants lack...they look really skinny and weak to me but i dont know for sure....maybe their stretching too much or something?
Let me know guys!!
Thanks in advance!!

Heres the link to the most recent update to my journal!!
https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog13132-og-kush-blue-dream-master.html

Happy Growing!

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@Peilo Yea i have one circulating fan in there. I vegged them for 5 weeks total... 1 wk with only PH water and 4 wks with nutrients before going into 12/12. Im also gonna finish out with the 2gallon buckets because thats all i have. This crop is all for personal use so im not too worried about having the biggest yield. However i am shooting for at at least 6-8 OZs (Dried) from my 6 plants. I still need to go get some garden stakes so i can bend the OG plants and tie them down. MOney is tight at the moment....any ideas?

You can get the stakes cheap at home depot or whatever. I went to a craft store and bought several packs of long pipe cleaners to tie my plants with. They are easy to tie and untie, they are cheap as hell and they are fuzzy

@LegallyFlying Ok ill have to go pick some up in a few days when i get paid. Im curious to see how tying them down will work out.
Heres a update of the grow at 17 days of flower...it looks to me like they are finally filling in!!
https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog13132-og-kush-blue-dream-master.html

This is day 22 of flower! The crowns are starting to pop up everywhere! I just tied my blue dream plant down a little bit. I plan to release it from the its bond in 1 week. All leaves are still vibrant and the ppm and ph have been constant....everything is going perfect except its really hot this summer...so sometimes my tent goes up to like 86-87 deg sometimes....other than that i have no complaints!! I better get my temps in order soon if i want this OG to be lethal and live up to its legendary status!

use circulating fans and a trellis and train them next time best way to yield with og strains that are like that. pm me where in socal u are if ur a 215 patient i can give u my og pheno thats grow bushy much easier to grow happy growing

get some stakes and tie them up cus there going to fall over for shure

@jdmcwestevo I have one circulating fan (Tower) in there...is this not good enough or are you saying that i need to add more fans?? As far as the trellis..ill have to give it a shot next time if need be.
@hellraizer30 Yea thats next on my list....i seriously hope i have that problem! Ive been hearing/reading that OG kush doesnt produce a big yield at all, but it is one of the most potent strains in the world right now.
This grow i was shooting for quality/potency....Next grow ill be shooting quanity+quality...next grow ill be crossing strains to experiment with.

Scoopdizzle said:

@jdmcwestevo I have one circulating fan (Tower) in there...is this not good enough or are you saying that i need to add more fans?? As far as the trellis..ill have to give it a shot next time if need be.
@hellraizer30 Yea thats next on my list....i seriously hope i have that problem! Ive been hearing/reading that OG kush doesnt produce a big yield at all, but it is one of the most potent strains in the world right now.
This grow i was shooting for quality/potency....Next grow ill be shooting quanity+quality...next grow ill be crossing strains to experiment with.

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you want enough fan power to keep the plants dancing or moving around. that will force the plant to strengthen up the stem and branches to stop swaying making them thicker and able to hold more weight. a silica additive helps also.

a trellis or stakes anything to tie them up and help it support weight of the buds will be needed

I really like the hydrofarm wall mount oscillating fan. The big one, I think it's 18". They are up out of the way and push LOTS of air. That w circulating fan, the really expensive one is neat and all put it doesn't push much air especially for the price.

the cap one is a cool W pattern instead of side to side

@legally flying Yea that fan is pretty nice! Except all i have is a 4x4 growlab tent...not sure how i would go about mounting a wall fan in a tent with no walls...lols How are ppl doing that anyway??

@jdmcwestevo Yea i seen that fan a few weeks ago....i was really impressed with it! If i do get a new circular fan...i think i will push to buy that CAP one. Optimum air flow!

Btw today is day 1 of week 5 of flower! (halfway mark!!) Ill be posting piks either tonight when the lights come on or tomorrow night!
Thanks for the input guys!!

I don't know about the CAP model but the "original" W pattern fan..I forget the name..doesn't push much air especially for the cost!