Does snipping lower fan leaves stress plant...

Touchet said:

TRY NOT to trim fan leaves, unless they are necrotic and you are flowering. Simply trim the dead portions of the leaf off. two posters above, take both of your info and combine it to get a solid answer. You are both correct.

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You got it Touchet. There are many ways and styles of growing. One person can grow the same strain that someone else had a great grow with. Follow exactly step by step the previous growers schedule, nutes, light type, soil ect.... The whole ball of wax. And have completely different results. Because of all the other enviromental, phenotype and other unknown factors that exist in their grow area vs the others. When it comes down to it. There is really no wrong or right way to grow. Just some guidelines you need to follow while perfecting your own style. That works for you, the enviroment you are growing in and the particular strain and pheno you are growing. Trimming, topping, pruning have, and will always be, topics of debate.
The best advice anyone can follow on this or any other forum is this. Read, listen, study. And if 100 people say no and 1 says yes. That 1 person may just be the only one with the right advice. Grow, grow and grow somemore for yourself. Thats where the true knowledge comes from. What you learn from within your own experience.

cowboylogic said:

Why exactly is that bad advise?

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i dunno, but that would be an example of bad grammar.

ive read that the bottom leaves begin dying to compensate for deficiencies. the plant starts drawing the excess nutes out of those leaves to feed the plant , resulting in your death. i really think it just depends on personal preference. if what i said up there is true , then as long as your feeding your plant , and the parts you trim arent getting enough light to be worthwhile , and you are careful not to go overboard and stress the shit outa your plant , then you should be fine.

Looks good.But i dont think you have the experience to put down others in the manner that u do. But hey good luck to ya!!

Happy growing

man people preeching and fighting back n forth isnt the way to go...this site is about marijuana.. smoke one and say fuck it..if he dont like your advice, his loss...but closetgrowth n a few others on this post know thr shit it seems..i personally trim the bottom leaves that are close to dying,turned yellow or already dead. the day after i trimmed, my plants stayed about the same but couple days later they were growin like crazy..my opinon,ONLY TRIM WHAT NEEDS TO BE CUT..if its a lil bit of yellow or some spots on your leaf, keep it... if its too much, cut tha bitch.......sorry if anyone thinks im wrong but hell it works for me..... do what u want man...there is too many ways to do things and everyone thinks they r right..u decide what u think is right..cowboylogic summed it up very nicely

cowboylogic said:

You got it Touchet. There are many ways and styles of growing. One person can grow the same strain that someone else had a great grow with. Follow exactly step by step the previous growers schedule, nutes, light type, soil ect.... The whole ball of wax. And have completely different results. Because of all the other enviromental, phenotype and other unknown factors that exist in their grow area vs the others. When it comes down to it. There is really no wrong or right way to grow. Just some guidelines you need to follow while perfecting your own style. That works for you, the enviroment you are growing in and the particular strain and pheno you are growing. Trimming, topping, pruning have, and will always be, topics of debate.
The best advice anyone can follow on this or any other forum is this. Read, listen, study. And if 100 people say no and 1 says yes. That 1 person may just be the only one with the right advice. Grow, grow and grow somemore for yourself. Thats where the true knowledge comes from. What you learn from within your own experience.

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well said. I am more often that not, that 1 person. I am new to this site but I have been growing outside for a long time, I'm kinda old and shit. The journal I have here is for my first indoor grow. Where I learned it was NOTHING like growing in soil, even with the same plants. Pics in my journal show four plants, moms and a clone from each, the two moms came from the same seed. they look nothing close to the same sitting next to each other in week 6 of 12/12, nothing! The difference in between the two sets is MANY factors. Dirt as opposed to an ebb and flow table, foilar feeding schedules, etc. My journal is good for answering questions as I have used every style of growing indoors in there except for NFT and DWC which is planned for the next harvest as I will be changing the flowering chamber again this week. It speaks for itself in regards to my qualifications.


See, the funny thing is, ALL the info posted here is pretty much CORRECT. The leaves will yellow and die off IF the plant needs nutes farther down the road. The plant WILL try to repair those leaves if left alone. Could that energy be used elsewhere during flowering, YES. Does it stress the plant to cut fan leaves, YES. is that stress LESS than it would be to the plant for it to try and REPAIR itself, I can't say, I don't speak plant. Will plants shaped differently and trained differently have different answers for these questions, YES.

Here's ONE reason I try NOT to cut lower fan leaves on anything trained "WIDE" like SLST or scrog. Now had I been growing this plant SOG style this never would have even been there,



Notice it's size, three fingers wide and about the same tall. I am lifting it up because its UNDER the canopy.

WeSmkDro said:

i dunno, but that would be an example of bad grammar.

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LMAO, bad grammer and spelling! Just a keystroke error!

There are so many factors that go into deciding weather or not to trim: strain, sog/scrog, growspace, need for air circulation... and on and on.

As a general rule, cut the minimum you need to in order to get the desired result. Try it on one plant, and compare yeilds to the plant next to it; learn from your experience. I would be very skeptical of anyone who says 'never' or 'always' to trimming leaves. Unless you cut away more than 1/3 of the leaves, you are unlikely to hurt your yeilds by much.

BTW, I won't claim any creds, so anyone and everyone is free to ignore my post.

CLOSETGROWTH said:

Dude, everyone has their own way of doing things... Jorges Bible doesnt mean a damn thing to me... neither does someone's opinions with only a hundred posts.

Thats the problem around here.. too many newbies telling others the wrong info... shit stew effect.

Ive been at this for about 11 years, and I made an opinion on how i go about things.

Ive grown beautiful plants, and Iam no amateur.. Aight?

Look at my thread, Im no dummy around here.

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The problem here, the way I see it is there are too many growers with a bit of experience under their belts telling incorrect information to new members and new growers. They pass on all their little personal beliefs, that often times fly in the face of expert advice, and they say things like don’t listen to any real true expert grower, “Ive been at this for about 11 years, and I made an opinion on how i go about things. Ive grown beautiful plants, and Iam no amateur.. Aight? Look at my thread, Im no dummy around here.” Then the new or newer grower take the member’s advice and believes all the member’s inaccurate advice and then down the road they will tell someone else that is new or new what they were told … and you have a never ending chain of misinformation being passed down from ‘crop of new growers’ to the next ‘crop of new growers’ and so on and so on.

There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way to do something and just because you do not agree with Jorge does not make you right and make him wrong.

The same goes with judging if someone is correct or accurate or knows anything based solely on their post count. When I first came here at one time I only had one post. Was that one post mean I was new to growing and didn’t know squat? Was my having started growing in 1972, that is 38 years ago, some 27 years longer than you have been growing, and decades before the Internet existed to be able to post messages about it, erased along with decades of experience only because my post count at the time was one? What about the maybe 100,000 or more messages I had posted by that time on various other boards over the years? Sure they were not here but just because I wrote one message here did I automatically lose all the knowledge and experience I had previous to that?

What if my four family members with degrees in botany join tomorrow and say cutting the fan leaves is wrong, would you tell them that by having only one post each it means their college education, along with the ongoing botanical courses they take and years and years of experience in the field of botany along with their personal experiences with growing less ‘conventional’ types of plants all mean squat because of their post count being one message each?

What if tomorrow one of the biggest names in breeding joins this site and writes one message saying cutting fan leaves is wrong to do, would you tell one of the biggest names in the business that there is no validity in “the opinion” of someone with just one post here?

I just love people who think that because they have been a member of a site longer than someone else, or has been more active posting that, that somehow makes them experts. They never stop to think that someone being a newer member and or one with a lower post count does not always equate to a newer grower.

When a member of a now defunct board similar to this, after years of being a member one certain member’s post count was only in the 50’s. He mainly read and if he had something to say he would PM someone … but on those rare occasions when he posted information in a message in a thread ……. you could safely have it carved into stone or tattooed on your ass because it was all the Gospel truth …… regardless of how low his post count was.