Doing MDMA with a friend, concerned about dose

Ganjaglutin

New Member
He Can Support Himself. Living With Our Grandmother Doesn't He's Incapable Of Supporting Himself. But A Big Strong Man Isnt A Bad Thing To Have Around The House If Your 72. He Still Lives With Her Because There's Free Food.
 

mswr

Member
He Can Support Himself. Living With Our Grandmother Doesn't He's Incapable Of Supporting Himself. But A Big Strong Man Isnt A Bad Thing To Have Around The House If Your 72. He Still Lives With Her Because There's Free Food.
Then that's a bad example. I'm sorry.

But what about all the Berkely drop outs living on the streets because they let MJ become more important to them (or other drugs) then their future? They walk around day and night pan handling so they can get their next 1/2 gram dank bag and maybe a McDonald's cheeseburger... only to wake up and repeat again and again?

Or the homeless guys I've seen jumped underneath the creek in San Leandro. They knowingly went down into a dangerous area hoping someone would share a blunt... nothing more.

Better yet, what about my dad that walked out on us when I was 8 simply because supporting our family meant little to no money for marijuana. That could have ruined my life (even though it didn't).
 

growwwww

Well-Known Member
Hmmm the tramps dont do green, or the real ones dont. its too exspensive i was talking to tramps in london few weeks back. They all dope up on other drugs and green is nothing to them. Well marijauna will obviously ruin lives of douche bags or sad people. Same with any drug - its the drug that gets to the wrong people that ruins there lives. This is moreso to do with other drugs that are alot more hard and extreme. Cannabis isint a great example of this - but it very much so does happen. Like people wasting there lives just doing nothing, sitting at home smoking. However when taken over and dominated by cannabis its a major and very very serious thing - but compared to other drugs its " devestation " power is negligable nearly. I.e meth n heroin. THe people that waste there lives on cannabis are wastes themselves, also so many other factors to play i dont think drugs devestation can be judged generally. So many wee factors that come into play its stupidity to start saying stuff like that.


Then that's a bad example. I'm sorry.

But what about all the Berkely drop outs living on the streets because they let MJ become more important to them (or other drugs) then their future? They walk around day and night pan handling so they can get their next 1/2 gram dank bag and maybe a McDonald's cheeseburger... only to wake up and repeat again and again?

Or the homeless guys I've seen jumped underneath the creek in San Leandro. They knowingly went down into a dangerous area hoping someone would share a blunt... nothing more.

Better yet, what about my dad that walked out on us when I was 8 simply because supporting our family meant little to no money for marijuana. That could have ruined my life (even though it didn't).
 

mswr

Member
Hmmm the tramps dont do green, or the real ones dont. its too exspensive i was talking to tramps in london few weeks back. They all dope up on other drugs and green is nothing to them. Well marijauna will obviously ruin lives of douche bags or sad people. Same with any drug - its the drug that gets to the wrong people that ruins there lives. This is moreso to do with other drugs that are alot more hard and extreme. Cannabis isint a great example of this - but it very much so does happen. Like people wasting there lives just doing nothing, sitting at home smoking. However when taken over and dominated by cannabis its a major and very very serious thing - but compared to other drugs its " devestation " power is negligable nearly. I.e meth n heroin. THe people that waste there lives on cannabis are wastes themselves, also so many other factors to play i dont think drugs devestation can be judged generally. So many wee factors that come into play its stupidity to start saying stuff like that.
I was only stating extreme situations because I know MJ doesn't generally cause any devastation. I'm not stupid. However it still does and Ganjaglutin wanted to disagree.

I was simply debating to prove my point. By the way, nearly every homeless person I knew while living in the bay smoked and bought weed. I made it a point to smoke with them and buy them something to eat whenever I could. They're people too ya know?
 

growwwww

Well-Known Member
I was only stating extreme situations because I know MJ doesn't generally cause any devastation. I'm not stupid. However it still does and Ganjaglutin wanted to disagree.

I was simply debating to prove my point. By the way, nearly every homeless person I knew while living in the bay smoked and bought weed. I made it a point to smoke with them and buy them something to eat whenever I could. They're people too ya know?
Well im in London one of the homeless capitals in the world. I like to be nice to the homeless guys aswell. In central city near the bridges literally hundreds of em on the banks of the thames ust doping up beggin in the streets its very bad. And 90percent of the time if you talk to them they are extremely rude and even if you want to help they will tell you to fuck off or something. But i was in trafalguar ( square in london ) and i got talking to this guy and i was smoking a joint i offered it to him i was with another mate aswel and he was a pretty depressed tramp and he said theres not much point even smokin a joint it does nothing because of how bad hes fucked himself up and he said he would rather have some real dope and i told him i couldnt offer him that and offered him a krispy creme donut instead because there was a tescos nearby with specials on and brought him so donuts. i came back later though and he was feeding it to the pigeons. Ah well at leaste i tried. I do like communicating with tramps do try ma best.

Peace
 

Ganjaglutin

New Member
I Am Disagreeing Because I've Never Seen Someone "layed waste to: caused extensive destruction by, or ruined utterly" Directly From Marijuana.
 

growwwww

Well-Known Member
I Am Disagreeing Because I've Never Seen Someone "layed waste to: caused extensive destruction by, or ruined utterly" Directly From Marijuana.
Very true, very very hard to get completely and utterly wasted on cannabis to the point of destruction you will just have to pay some fat visit to your local supermarket thats all really.
 

hom36rown

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I went to Cal State East Bay and then Berkely while living in the bay (Hayward, Berkely, and then later on even East Oakland). All those places are very liberal which makes it easy to get just about anything. Especially Berkely :bigjoint:.

You just need to know the right crowds and know your "stuff", ya know what I mean?

Anyway on to this:

You're wrong man. Everything on that page is correct, but no where does it state it's impossible to cut ecstasy with those drugs. You miss interpreted their answer. They merely state it's extremely unlikely to be cut with those drugs and for very good reason. It would be a bad business decision. That's why it's so popular to cut ecstasy with DMX in the Midwest (which I have also lived).

When I was a teenager, I lived in Northern Indiana and my best bud's uncle was a local ecstasy dealer. I did ecstasy for the first time at 14 and I got the pill from him. I don't mind sharing this as it's all water under the bridge. He got busted and did his time. He no longer does anything illegal and is a honest hard working American. Anyway.

He used to make two batches at a time when he pressed his pills. One larger and one smaller... the larger batch being cut with something cheap like DMX and intended for sale. The smaller batch was used as personal and normally cut with coke. He said he liked the high better then straight MDMA. I always remembered that.

Now not only did I do ecstasy cut with both cocaine and meth back as a teenager and in the Midwest, I've also made my own pills while living in the Bay and going to Berkeley. I like to research drugs. It's a hobby and I really don't think drugs are bad when used properly.

Everything has a purpose, eh? Plus it's fun for me ;-).

I made my pills by mixing my filler (whatever drug I wanted) and molly in capsules. So hom36rown please don't call me an idiot when I say I've had ecstasy pills cut with heroin, LSD, or coke... because I have. If I'm going to take the time to write a post I'm not going to waste time lying. I've also made my own opium using wild poppy seeds from fields found in Berkeley.

Oh yeah, and don't think I'm rich or anything because I'm not. I got through college on mostly scholarships, grants, and student loans. I was actually pretty poor but I didn't let that ruin anything :).

And I got extra money which I used for pretty much everything else by growing and selling this to a local club:

(I grew legally too. So no worries there. Oh yeah, this is the same weed I grew and sold to the club, but it's a picture of some personal.)

Ok?

And to this:
Thanks man :bigjoint:.
Yeah, sure thing boss. :rolleyes:
 

tDot.

Well-Known Member
update bump

K, so this hasn't happened yet, but my friend is coming back from a trip and wants to finally do MDMA this week.

You all gave some pretty informative responses, but I'm more worried about the crash than the trip. I hear some people get a nasty crash/depression in the days following their roll. So far, I've felt better after almost all my rolls, if a little exhausted, but I have heard girls get a worse crash.

Am I worrying too much? I'd just hate to be the one to complicate her life any more.
 

hom36rown

Well-Known Member
The come down from a clean roll isn't that bad IMO. After a long night of rolling, the next day I usually feel super drained...like just stupid, like my brain isn't working at full production. And a little irritable, though I try to stop myself.

I've had pretty bad comedowns too though, especially from pills that are cut with speed. I had a girlfriend who would cut herself on a comedown...so my guess is, she did not handle it well.

Everyone is different though. A friend of mine actually had a bad trip on E. I did not even think it was possible. He just stood in the corner all night writing shit on post it notes, and just generally acting weird. We are pretty sure he may be in the developing stages of schizophrenia(we found a journal of his with some really wierd shit in it).

I would imagine girls probably do have worse comedowns, because they are just generally more emotional. Just dont go on a binge, and make sure to check up on her the next day and see how she feels.
 

Anonymiss1969

Active Member
With pure MDMA, I've never experienced a comedown with a normal dose. There was one time, though, that I ate 750mg (.75g) and roll balls all night and then had the most depressing week of my life afterwords. The days dragged on forever...
 

tDot.

Well-Known Member
We did it yesterday and I don't think I really had anything to worry about. We had a great time just walking and talking for hours, and then sitting and talking for hours. She took .2 and I took .3 g. I don't ever remember getting this vibrating jaw thing which I got yesterday, but it wasn't too bad, it just made me sound weird when I talked lol

Thanks everyone for your responses.
 

Slim28

Active Member
Anyone who thinks theyve had ecstasy pills cut with heroin, lsd, or coke is an idiot.
http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=25
Exactly! Heroin, coke and LSD sell just fine on their own. The most common "Additive" would be meth, but these days getting ills with anything but piperazines is pretty tough.

There are a couple of good sites to check out... pillreports.com and ecstasydata.org. Good information on both, with the first being a more up to date choice, you just have to weed through the BS.

Standard recreational dose is something like 2mg/kg of body weight. More isn't going to cause you to OD. I have been stupid a few times and went way too far. OD'ing on E is pretty tough unless you have other substances in it, which brings me to my next point -

BUY A TEST KIT!

It's the best $50 I've ever spent. They don't tell you how much E is in your pill, or molly, but they do tell you if E or a similar substance is in what you have. Money well spent, in my opinion.
 
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