Dolomite lime mix in soil + water?

thisusernameisnottaken

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Can I mix it in the water when watering the plant if so how much? Also how much mixed in the soil?

Only 12-14 days vegging then 12/12 light is led problems are cal/mag deficiency.
 

hyroot

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dol lime takes a couple years to break down in soil.

brew a tea of alfalfa meal, kelp meal. Then right before using add pureed aloe Vera leaves and silica (pro tekt or AgSil).

5 gal
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
1/4 cup kelp meal
1 cup pureed aloe Vera
25 mils pro tekt ot AgSil solution.

also compost teas help quite a bit and topdressing vermicompost does as well.
 

az2000

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Can I mix it in the water when watering the plant if so how much? Also how much mixed in the soil
Dolomite isn't water soluble. People usually amend 1tbsp into every gal of soil before they plant.

Only 12-14 days vegging then 12/12 light is led problems are cal/mag deficiency.
You can supplement with 1/2tsp/gal gypsum to supply calcium. It won't completely dissolve. Let it sit over night, stir as often as you can, then strain out the undissolved stuff (so it doesn't sit on top of the soil and continue to contribute).

You can supplement with 1/2tsp/gal epsom salt to supply mg.

These things depend on the severity of the deficiency. Mild, I'd do 1/4 tsp. Severe I'd do 1 tsp.

(Sometimes these deficiencies are related to acidic soil which usually results from overfeeding and/or not enough runoff.).
 

thisusernameisnottaken

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Thanks for the recipe guys but I dont have that fancy stuff. Sick of the cal/mag deficiency I always get and the end result is that I end the plants life.
 

az2000

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Yessir. Unless that soil mix has been cooking for a couple years
That's not my experience. I've run a test using 0 to 8 tbsp/gal dolimite. I saw a difference in soil ph using a $60 Control Wizard Accurate 8 probe in a week or two.

That was fine/powdered dolomite. Pellets may take a long time.
 

charles lewis

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dol lime takes a couple years to break down in soil.

brew a tea of alfalfa meal, kelp meal. Then right before using add pureed aloe Vera leaves and silica (pro tekt or AgSil).

5 gal
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
1/4 cup kelp meal
1 cup pureed aloe Vera
25 mils pro tekt ot AgSil solution.

also compost teas help quite a bit and topdressing vermicompost does as well.
Not true. It don't take years
 

bravedave

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powder form takes about a year. Rock form takes 2-3 years
So Promix basic ($14 for 2.2 cu ft) comes with DL added. Its not powdered but goes from powder to dime size. Say it sits in those peat bales for 2 years with half if that time being outside baking on display on the concrete...occasionally getting wet (those plastic bags are not impervious). Would it be a viable for 3-4 month grow?
 

hyroot

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I think you believe what you want to..... you ever use lime for anything?
do some research beyond forums
why do you think farmers add dole lime to the ground at the end of the season. So its there for the following year and 2. Green sand takes almost as long to break down too

I used to.use dol lime. Never did anything for my plants. I just use oyster shell flour and rock dust.
 

hyroot

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So Promix basic ($14 for 2.2 cu ft) comes with DL added. Its not powdered but goes from powder to dime size. Say it sits in those peat bales for 2 years with half if that time being outside baking on display on the concrete...occasionally getting wet (those plastic bags are not impervious). Would it be a viable for 3-4 month grow?
as long as it never dries out. The peat in there does have microbes. That's what breaks shit down. If it dries out. Those microbes die off. More than likely they get dried out.
 

woody333333

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do some research beyond forums
why do you think farmers add dole lime to the ground at the end of the season. So its there for the following year and 2. Green sand takes almost as long to break down too

I used to.use dol lime. Never did anything for my plants. I just use oyster shell flour and rock dust.
so do those work?...... because your plants don't look so great
 

az2000

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why do you think farmers add dole lime to the ground at the end of the season. So its there for the following year
I think we're talking about 3 different things.

  1. Being "there" a year later implies how long it takes to be exhausted. That's a function of the size of the particles, the moisture level of the soil and its acidity (it requires low ph to release the carbon from the magnesium and calcium carbonates.).
  2. The rapidity of ph adjustment. Again, a function of how low the soil ph is and the size of the dolomitic material.
  3. The availability of magnesium and carbon. Again, a function of soil ph and size of material.

I have performed a test with multiple containers from 0 to 8tbsp/gal fine/powdered dolomite. I saw nearly immediate ph adjustment from 5.8 to 6.4. The amount of dolomite used had a negligible effect on this.

It's conceivable that if the soil were 6.4 it would "take years" for the dolomite to have an effect (ph adjustment or nutrient availability). It would be "there" next year.

It's conceivable that during the initial 2 weeks that I saw adjustment there was an unhealthy release of calcium and magnesium as the carbonates were broken down. This could be a reason to "let it cook." It would then depend on each individual's starting soil ph.

IMO, it would be better to use hydrated lime to raise the ph to an initial 6.5, and dolomitic lime as a slower-acting buffer to hold it there.

I mixed 1 tbsp in 2 liter of water the water is all white.
Is it in suspension or dissolved? Does it settle after leaving it set overnight? If it's suspended, I think the problem you'll have is that the particles will filter out within the first 1-2" of soil. You'll have layers of soil ph. This is what people complain about when cultivating dolomite into the topsoil. It doesn't get all the way into the soil after watering.

I've been told by two knowledgeable (multiple degrees including horticulture) people that agricultural lime sold with a guaranteed analysis is actually soluble. That it is somehow extracted and made into a resin that is then ground or pelletized. I want to talk to them more about it to understand. This might be the difference between home growers and farmers.

If I can get more info about this, I will post. My conversation with them had to do with Grow More's dolomite product which is pelletized. I was told it dissolves in water and is as fast acting as powdered dolomite. (Still seems like it wouldn't produce even results in the soil when concentrated into pellets.).
 
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