MuckyDucky
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What it says...
Donald Trump has more charisma than Charles Manson?
Donald Trump has more charisma than Charles Manson?
Donald Trump has more charisma than Charles Manson?
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Singlemalt
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Strawman much?
ginwilly
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Careful what you wish for LF. I know it's because you think it locks up a dem presidency but picture this. During debates somebody asks actual real world related questions on the economy. Sanders will start by saying NORWAY!! we need to be more like them!! Trump will say that's what is wrong with America today, we shouldn't strive to be "like" another country, we should strive to be the greatest country in history like we used to be!! We used to set the example, now we "lead from behind".
Soundbites like that are scary. Pleebs are unpredictable. Trump knows marketing. People are not really excited about status quo and Biden, Clinton, and Bush represent that. Sanders refuses to roll in the mud. I find that commendable but pretty much all research shows negative campaigning wins. If he starts rolling in the mud then he's just another politician and loses likability.
I hope you don't get your hope, the risk is not worth it. I really don't understand the Trump love and until recently I couldn't take his candidacy serious. He's actually gaining still, even after the debate. Hell, he jumped up points from the debate.
Although.... picturing Trump and Putin together in the same room.... may be ppv worthy.
ChesusRice
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People who despise illegal immigration?
Or only care, about it because it involves Brown people?
TBoneJack
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Maybe, I don't know. I'm just guessing there is probably a significant segment of the nation that is opposed to Obama's immigration stance. And many of those people are swayed by Trump's extreme stance on immigration.
I'm just saying why I think he resonates with people. I'm not saying he's right.
Fogdog
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Not Manson.
Trump reminds me of Wallace without the experience as governor. Same sort of ethnic sleazy pandering to a bigoted constituency, same defiant speech saying things the bigots are afraid to say in public, same ugly beady eyes and fleshy, pouty face. Total lack of charisma.
Trump reminds me of Wallace without the experience as governor. Same sort of ethnic sleazy pandering to a bigoted constituency, same defiant speech saying things the bigots are afraid to say in public, same ugly beady eyes and fleshy, pouty face. Total lack of charisma.
TBoneJack
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Yet Wallace won the governorship, multiple times. And eventually got the minority vote as well.
nitro harley
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I watched the last Trump show and have been watching him progress and for the first time in years I am thinking maybe he means it this time. I will wait and see what happens on OCT 22nd with Hillary, because after that day she might have a boot stuck up her ass.
If Hillary bows out it will create chaos for the Dems and maybe Trump will gain some more traction. Get the popcorn ready for the New National Boot in The Ass Day. OCT 22nd stay tuned.
If Hillary bows out it will create chaos for the Dems and maybe Trump will gain some more traction. Get the popcorn ready for the New National Boot in The Ass Day. OCT 22nd stay tuned.
UncleBuck
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what made you decide to come back and share whatever retarded nonsense was passing through that diminutive skull of yours, neo-nazi?
UncleBuck
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i really think america would benefit from ethnically cleansing white supremacist losers like you from the face of the earth.
TBoneJack
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I sure ain't no loser Buck.
nitro harley
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In some weird way that could be a sign that bucky has been contemplating suicide . You should maybe help him with a contact number for help.
Fogdog
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Too funny man. Which Wallace are you talking about, the one in the 60's or the one in the 80's?
The Wallace I'm talking about is the one in the 60's, this from Wallace in his inaugural speech as governor of Alabama in 1963:
In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.
Tell me, what percentage of eligible black people were even able to vote in 1963?
Later on towards the end of his career, from a wheelchair, Wallace's stance did soften. It was notable that he obtained a significant percentage of black voters towards the end of his political career.
"MONTGOMERY, Ala., Sept. 8— George C. Wallace gained the support of about one-third of the black voters in Tuesday's primary election, according to various analyses today, but this unaccustomed support still left him facing a runoff election for the Democratic nomination for a fourth term as Governor of Alabama."
Not a majority, mind you. OK, he changed over time but not that much. This was also said in the same article quoted above:
"Political insiders, all asking anonymity, almost unanimously predicted one of the most vicious campaigns in Alabama history. All of them alluded to an effective whisper campaign of rumors by Wallace supporters.
Mr. McMillan said former Gov. Albert Brewer had warned him of a dirty campaign. Mr. Brewer lost the 1970 primary to Mr. Wallace's campaign against ''the bloc vote,'' a code phase for black voters. That campaign has been described as one of Alabama's dirtiest. 'Brace Yourself,' He Is Told
''He said, 'Brace yourself, because you're dealing with people who do not operate by your standards,' '' the 38-year-old Lieutenant Governor said. ''All right, I'm braced."
Yes, he won the governorship many times. But he still reminds me of Trump. History doesn't repeat it just echoes.
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/09/09/us/wallace-wins-a-third-of-black-vote-in-capturing-spot-in-primary-runoff.html
TBoneJack
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I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression that Wallace won the minority vote in his last governor's election.
