Donald Trump LMAO

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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schuylaar said:
that's because he knows NOTHING of world current events nor does he choose to.
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Trump also said he's questioning why the USA pays for troops in Japan, Europe, S Korea, etc.

Bernie voted REPEATEDLY to fully fund the Pentgon and global domination.


Again, I won't vote for either, but thought you should realize Bernie loves to threaten people with force. Bernie IS NOT about world peace, he is about CONTROL.
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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Rob Roy said:
Trump also said he's questioning why the USA pays for troops in Japan, Europe, S Korea, etc.

Bernie voted REPEATEDLY to fully fund the Pentgon and global domination.


Again, I won't vote for either, but thought you should realize Bernie loves to threaten people with force. Bernie IS NOT about world peace, he is about CONTROL.
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So trump is about world peace? He's not even about rally peace.
 
Rob Roy

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bearkat42 said:
So trump is about world peace? He's not even about rally peace.
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No, Trump, NOR ANY OTHER POLITICIAN, is for world peace.

In fact logic insists that it is impossible to use a coercion based system (POLITICS) to achieve Peace, since the means used, coercion, cannot be separated from the process and ensures the negation of peace existing.



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The Epistemological Argument
Violence is never a means to knowledge. As Isabel Paterson, explained in her book, The God of the Machine, "No edict of law can impart to an individual a faculty denied him by nature. A government order cannot mend a broken leg, but it can command the mutilation of a sound body. It cannot bestow intelligence, but it can forbid the use of intelligence." Or, as Baldy Harper used to put it, "You cannot shoot a truth!" The advocate of any form of invasive violence is in a logically precarious situation. Coercion does not convince, nor is it any kind of argument. William Godwin pointed out that force "is contrary to the nature of the intellect, which cannot but be improved by conviction and persuasion," and "if he who employs coercion against me could mold me to his purposes by argument, no doubt, he would.. He pretends to punish me because his argument is strong; but he really punishes me because he is weak." Violence contains none of the energies that enhance a civilized human society. At best, it is only capable of expanding the material existence of a few individuals, while narrowing the opportunities of most others.
 
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bluntmassa1

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Rob Roy said:
Trump also said he's questioning why the USA pays for troops in Japan, Europe, S Korea, etc.

Bernie voted REPEATEDLY to fully fund the Pentgon and global domination.


Again, I won't vote for either, but thought you should realize Bernie loves to threaten people with force. Bernie IS NOT about world peace, he is about CONTROL.
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World peace is not coming anytime in the near future until their is a new world order and all nations work together we will not have world peace. We killed Gaddafi, Saddam and crippled the Taliban but that is not enough tyrants to topple for world peace. Raul Castro is coming to our side so that helps without war North Korea and ISIS though are putting up some shit against world peace. China as well by trying to take islands and bully Asian nations and Russia is doing their thing to fuck with peace in eastern Europe. I'm sure Russia would be happily accepted into EU and NATO but Putin won't do such a thing.

America is not the only reason we don't have world peace the world is responsible for world peace and we can't just up and drop our military or China and Russia can take over as the big kids on the block and after Putin stuck up for Iran, Gaddafi and Assad I don't think it's a very good idea.

But who knows maybe America just needs a Stalin or Mao or Trump. LMAO, Not really.... But please explain how to handle world peace which has never been attained even our closest species the chimpanzee have battles over turf like the Bloods and Crips, Hells Angles and Outlaws. Lol, Humans are fucked in the head even one kid seemed cool but got out of federal prison and just got caught with child porn and a baby murdered in his home. World peace ain't coming in this lifetime humans are unpredictable animals in fact the only creatures that kill themselves that one kind of blew my mind when I thought about it. LMAO
 
Rob Roy

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bluntmassa1 said:
World peace is not coming anytime in the near future until their is a new world order and all nations work together we will not have world peace. We killed Gaddafi, Saddam and crippled the Taliban but that is not enough tyrants to topple for world peace. Raul Castro is coming to our side so that helps without war North Korea and ISIS though are putting up some shit against world peace. China as well by trying to take islands and bully Asian nations and Russia is doing their thing to fuck with peace in eastern Europe. I'm sure Russia would be happily accepted into EU and NATO but Putin won't do such a thing.

America is not the only reason we don't have world peace the world is responsible for world peace and we can't just up and drop our military or China and Russia can take over as the big kids on the block and after Putin stuck up for Iran, Gaddafi and Assad I don't think it's a very good idea.

But who knows maybe America just needs a Stalin or Mao or Trump. LMAO, Not really.... But please explain how to handle world peace which has never been attained even our closest species the chimpanzee have battles over turf like the Bloods and Crips, Hells Angles and Outlaws. Lol, Humans are fucked in the head even one kid seemed cool but got out of federal prison and just got caught with child porn and a baby murdered in his home. World peace ain't coming in this lifetime humans are unpredictable animals in fact the only creatures that kill themselves that one kind of blew my mind when I thought about it. LMAO
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We probably agree that world peace would be a good thing.

However, it is impossible that it will be delivered politically by nation states which derive their membership using coercive and involuntary means. The presence of the coercion used by the nation states assures that. Use of coercion as a means of operation while at the same time claiming to have peace as a goal is like baking a cake with shit in the recipe and trying to make the cake taste like there is no shit in it. The means used is not separate from the end result hoped for.

Also many people confuse peace and order as the same thing. Peace cannot be imposed using violent means, order can.

I can't make others be peaceful, I can only be peaceful myself and align with others who feel the same way.

Peace.
 
bluntmassa1

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Rob Roy said:
Also many people confuse peace and order as the same thing. Peace cannot be imposed using violent means, order can.

I can't make others be peaceful, I can only be peaceful myself and align with others who feel the same way.

Peace.
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Peace can't be attained without violence either. Scotland had to fight England same as America. Only way for world peace is war and a lot more cops (order) just not for drugs only the ones who rob, rape, steal and kill among other actual crimes nothing wrong with a guy killing himself with a heroin overdose the world population is too big to worry about survival of the weakest. Also nothing wrong with selling heroin just clean and not to kids and kids just need to know the truth about drugs DARE was a joke.

For peace we will need a government and it will need to be forced my only problem with police really is the drug war if it was just going after bad guys I would respect them but gambling is not a crime (unless you put someone in debt and break legs etc.) and neither is prostitution unless it's a minor or forced by a pimp. Can't have peace and let everyone just run amuck that doesn't work that will bring back Al Capone type shit and blood feuds humans as a whole are not peaceful creatures some are peaceful I'm pretty peaceful but you hurt my family I'd kill just like most.

Native Americans where pretty peaceful but they still had to deal with the Apache and Mayan tribes peace just is not in human nature. We need Buddha, lots of shrooms and herb. :bigjoint:
 
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Rob Roy said:
Okay before we get into a pissing contest about Trump and Bernie, you gotta remember I'm a Vermin man...so I'm just paddling along trollin'.


I do like that Bernie isn't as bad of a prohibitionist as Hillary, but I don't like his voting to fully fund the military industrial complex repeatedly and his coziness with big banks.

Imagine a guy so STUPID as Bernie to say he's against big banks then he votes to HELP BIG BANKS by extending the debt limit!!! But wait, there's more....there are people right here on this website that no longer reply to me cuz I exposed their Bernie hypocrisy...can you imagine that?
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You are a supporter of racists who think it should be legal for adults to fuck kids
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
You are a supporter of racists who think it should be legal for adults to fuck kids
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No, I am a supporter of the idea that you own yourself and nobody else does. Plus your concept of "legal" and "illegal" are silly and subservient to me.

If you want to use your property or your body in ways that I don't agree with, it can only become my business if it lessens my right to do the same with MY body and MY property. I may not agree with WHAT or HOW you use yourself and your property, but that doesn't give me any right to enslave you or you to enslave me.

On the other hand, you having proposed Prohibitionist laws which would jail people for cannabis related activity think some people should be as a default, subservient to others. Of course you are wrong, which is an affirmation of your lack of mental acuity .

I am for freedom. You are not.

Plus, you have skinny arms and bought 3 Harleys in a feeble attempt to increase your masculinity and bolster your poor self image.
 
Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
and we all know that won't happen until we can deny service based on skin color again, amirite?
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Freedom of association isn't achieved when one party can insist the other party must associate with them, can it?

It can ONLY exist when human interactions happen on a mutual and voluntary basis of all the involved parties. The freedom to decline an offer of association must be present, if not, rapist tactics (the ability to FORCE an association) become normalized.


Sometimes when you fail to see the obvious, you act like what passes for a smart guy in a room full of dumb people, no offense intended of course.
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Freedom of association isn't achieved when one party can insist the other party must associate with them, can it?

It can ONLY exist when human interactions happen on a mutual and voluntary basis of all the involved parties. The freedom to decline an offer of association must be present, if not, rapist tactics (the ability to FORCE an association) become normalized.


Sometimes when you fail to see the obvious, you act like what passes for a smart guy in a room full of dumb people, no offense intended of course.
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wow, once again you compare serving a peaceful, paying black customer to being raped.

by the way, in order for what you just said to make any sense, there would have to exist some store which was forced to be open to the public. does such a thing even exist, dipshit?

go back to your klan rallies. your dumb shit might pass as smart-sounding there.
 
Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
wow, once again you compare serving a peaceful, paying black customer to being raped.

by the way, in order for what you just said to make any sense, there would have to exist some store which was forced to be open to the public. does such a thing even exist, dipshit?

go back to your klan rallies. your dumb shit might pass as smart-sounding there.
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Regardless of a persons race, a person who forcibly insists that another person interact with them by using OFFENSIVE force is using tactics similar to a rapist. If you could factually argue against that you would have. Your argument relies heavily on contradictory means, mine doesn't.

A person of ANY race should be able to say "no thank you" to another person insisting they interact, when the interaction isn't based in mutual consent.

I understand that you think it's okay to force an interaction, but please stay away from the school yards with that attitude.
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
a person who forcibly insists that another person interact with them by using OFFENSIVE force is using tactics similar to a rapist.
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so does this type of thing actually exist?

is there one single store anywhere that was forced to be open to the public?

or are you just busy chasing imaginary persecution bunnies as part of your racist worldview?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
so does this type of thing actually exist?

is there one single store anywhere that was forced to be open to the public?

or are you just busy chasing imaginary persecution bunnies as part of your racist worldview?
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That's an inversion using selected ignorance on your part.

You have neglected to consider the privately owned stores which DID exist at the time "private property" was forcibly morphed into "public stores".

You also neglect to consider the idea that there is force present by the mere inclusion of the government in the present, which dictates that a property owner must chose from a list of limited "choices" another entity creates.

If something doesn't exist today , you failed to consider why it isn't "allowed" to exist. That clearly points to the entity which has the use of force as its primary means of operation.

May the force, not be with you.*



*(that was a "not funny" Star Wars joke, Poopy Pants)
 
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