Dont believe in Aliens? well explain this

Doer

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Im not talking about stone henge, that was probably built by humans. But there is a lot more stuff out there that is simply unexplained. Stonehenge is chump change compared to the pyramids of giza. And explain why there are pyramids all over the world. Obviously south america did not know Egypt.
Nothing that I know of that is un-explainable and am quite a well verses skeptic having been completely fooled by the book mongers as you seem now.
 

reasonevangelist

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Nothing that I know of that is un-explainable and am quite a well verses skeptic having been completely fooled by the book mongers as you seem now.
Anything can be "explained," but that doesn't make the explanation accurate.

I could explain 100% fiction; doesn't make it true.
 

Doer

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Anything can be "explained," but that doesn't make the explanation accurate.

I could explain 100% fiction; doesn't make it true.
Come on. You explain fiction as 100% fiction.

If you have simple explanations of well document phenomenon that excludes magic, aliens and such.

And most things still cannot be explained all the way, inc. We don't know enough about Gravity, Causal/Locale Uncertainty, Quantum Space, etc.

But, to my knowledge and yours there has never been a confirmed anything that is not explainable.
There have been only people nattering, claiming and doctoring facts, as people do.
 

reasonevangelist

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Come on. You explain fiction as 100% fiction.

If you have simple explanations of well document phenomenon that excludes magic, aliens and such.

And most things still cannot be explained all the way, inc. We don't know enough about Gravity, Causal/Locale Uncertainty, Quantum Space, etc.

But, to my knowledge and yours there has never been a confirmed anything that is not explainable.
There have been only people nattering, claiming and doctoring facts, as people do.
At this moment, i cannot confirm that there has never been a valid confirmation of a legitimately unexplainable phenomenon. I will say though, that many have observed phenomena they could not explain, which they would define as "unexplainable," which doesn't necessarily mean there is no logical or natural explanation, only that if one exists, they don't know it yet.

I don't know everything everyone has ever observed, and i don't know everything that has not yet been observed by even a single person. I tend to think that either nothing or not much has been observed, that "cannot be explained (ever)." Plenty of times though, events have occurred which no one can Currently explain.

I don't know that there is nothing that cannot be explained naturally, and i don't know that there is something that cannot be explained naturally. But i'm pretty (very) skeptical of anything that falls into the supernatural category.

I lean toward the expectation that all events have natural causes, even if we can't figure out all of those causes, and further determine how much relevance each of various relevant causes, carries. Weight of relevance among multiple causes, seems a weak point for human perception. Very few people seem skilled at it. Seems like most people are prone to attribution errors, and i can't say i am immune to them myself... but i try.
 

fatburt

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Im not talking about stone henge, that was probably built by humans. But there is a lot more stuff out there that is simply unexplained. Stonehenge is chump change compared to the pyramids of giza. And explain why there are pyramids all over the world. Obviously south america did not know Egypt.
to be quite honest genius humans are the brains behind any type of serious engineering,we are not,thats why it cant be comprehended,we dont have the brain power to do so,my iq is 127 and i cant understand
 

ODanksta

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Come on. You explain fiction as 100% fiction.

If you have simple explanations of well document phenomenon that excludes magic, aliens and such.

And most things still cannot be explained all the way, inc. We don't know enough about Gravity, Causal/Locale Uncertainty, Quantum Space, etc.

But, to my knowledge and yours there has never been a confirmed anything that is not explainable.
There have been only people nattering, claiming and doctoring facts, as people do.
I'm not really serious when I say proof. But lets keep a open mind at least. Doer I think your smart guy, forsure. And everybody is entitled to their own opinions.
 

ODanksta

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At this moment, i cannot confirm that there has never been a valid confirmation of a legitimately unexplainable phenomenon. I will say though, that many have observed phenomena they could not explain, which they would define as "unexplainable," which doesn't necessarily mean there is no logical or natural explanation, only that if one exists, they don't know it yet.

I don't know everything everyone has ever observed, and i don't know everything that has not yet been observed by even a single person. I tend to think that either nothing or not much has been observed, that "cannot be explained (ever)." Plenty of times though, events have occurred which no one can Currently explain.

I don't know that there is nothing that cannot be explained naturally, and i don't know that there is something that cannot be explained naturally. But i'm pretty (very) skeptical of anything that falls into the supernatural category.

I lean toward the expectation that all events have natural causes, even if we can't figure out all of those causes, and further determine how much relevance each of various relevant causes, carries. Weight of relevance among multiple causes, seems a weak point for human perception. Very few people seem skilled at it. Seems like most people are prone to attribution errors, and i can't say i am immune to them myself... but i try.
Sure but lets say if there is a chance that aliens do exist, well then that would be a natural explanation then, right?
 

reasonevangelist

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Sure but lets say if there is a chance that aliens do exist, well then that would be a natural explanation then, right?
Of course. If aliens exist, somewhere out there, and evolved naturally in their own locale, then that's nature. Of course there's "a chance" aliens exist. There's more "chance they could exist" than i think most people realize. There's a whole lot of unexplored universe out there. "Unknown unknowns," and such.

Here's the iffy part: if "the supernatural" exists... then isn't that also nature?
 

NoDrama

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wtf should you care, mom?
Yep Irony, also

WTF should you care if I care, Mom?

FWIW If you can't see the irony in my statement in a thread about aliens, well I'm sorry if it's way over your head, i'll write more slowly next time so it's easier for you to understand, ok?
 

NoDrama

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to be quite honest genius humans are the brains behind any type of serious engineering,we are not,thats why it cant be comprehended,we dont have the brain power to do so,my iq is 127 and i cant understand
Those internet IQ tests? Everyone has an IQ of 120+
Not saying that's where you got your score from, just sayin'.
 

ODanksta

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Lol, I want to take a IQ test, but I don't believe there is any real way, to tell one's intelligence. Other then, what they do with the choices they are given at any moment. But I guess that is what a IQ test is anyways. My question is "who the hell makes the test?"
 

Doer

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I'm not really serious when I say proof. But lets keep a open mind at least. Doer I think your smart guy, forsure. And everybody is entitled to their own opinions.
When did you ever hear me say?.

1- you can't have an opinion or;
2- that there ARE NOT alien visitors or;
3- that there ARE alien visitors

hmmmmm?
 
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Doer

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Lol, I want to take a IQ test, but I don't believe there is any real way, to tell one's intelligence. Other then, what they do with the choices they are given at any moment. But I guess that is what a IQ test is anyways. My question is "who the hell makes the test?"
Try the online versions...lots of fun. Here is where I falter, for some reason, the patterns.

http://www.iqtestexperts.com/pattern-recognition-sample.php

  1. Which of the figures, you think best fits the series below?



 

fatburt

Active Member
Those internet IQ tests? Everyone has an IQ of 120+
Not saying that's where you got your score from, just sayin'.
i took it at the doctors,but i know what you mean,watch king of the hill season 7 i believe,its called the substitute spanish prisoner
 

reasonevangelist

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Try the online versions...lots of fun. Here is where I falter, for some reason, the patterns.

http://www.iqtestexperts.com/pattern-recognition-sample.php

  1. Which of the figures, you think best fits the series below?

lol, the symbol i'd want next isn't available.

I want the arrows from A, and the circle from B. I want the arrows on the top left, and the circle on the bottom right (and connected with a horizontal line, not a vertical one)... But, the only one of the choices which satisfies that, connects the circle to the arrows in a way i think makes it not fit (i.e. different than the horizontal connection in the first symbol). You can see the arrows rotate 90 degrees clockwise each time, but where the circle connects makes it look like the 2nd action is a horizontal mirror, not a rotation. Maybe where/how the circle connects is irrelevant? I suppose i'd pick A, or skip the question, because A preserves the locations expected of both arrows and circle, in a "90 degrees each time" pattern, despite the final circle connection being non-compliant. They could also be doing a diagonal mirror line from the first to the third symbol... but not sure how to find a "pattern" if all i have is two actions: "a 90 degree rotation," and "a diagonal mirroring." If we 90 degree the 3rd symbol, that's not an available selection.

It's not that i can't find patterns here, but that i don't see the one they want me to see, and the answer to the patterns i see, isn't available to select. Maybe you're supposed to draw the symbol you want, next to a 5th selection (lol). I often wonder if they design IQ tests so that the correct answer is to skip the question (because they have deliberately not included the correct answer in the available selections). Is that an allowed strategy in IQ test design?
 
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