Don't order seadz from Attitude

fearnoevil · Dec 11, 2013

Huel, the problem with your point of view is that it doesn't reflect the experience of the majority of folks in the US. Most of us don't live in states where it's legal, medically or otherwise, so there's just no way we can "legally" buy seeds at home. But overseas is safer cuz you're not commiting a crime in person (ie. making a buy in person which can get you busted), and all that ever happens, far as I've ever heard, is you lose your shipment and maybe get a scary notice. No fun, I'll admit, but still safer IMO.

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

Well said. It might make sense for a specific individual to just buy them legally from the shop down the road, but it does not detrtact from the fact that untold thousands buy seeds from abroad on a regular basis without an issue.

Huel Perkins · Dec 11, 2013

fearnoevil said:
Huel, the problem with your point of view is that it doesn't reflect the experience of the majority of folks in the US. Most of us don't live in states where it's legal, medically or otherwise, so there's just no way we can "legally" buy seeds at home. But overseas is safer cuz you're not commiting a crime in person (ie. making a buy in person which can get you busted), and all that ever happens, far as I've ever heard, is you lose your shipment and maybe get a scary notice. No fun, I'll admit, but still safer IMO.

tip top toker said:
Well said. It might make sense for a specific individual to just buy them legally from the shop down the road, but it does not detrtact from the fact that untold thousands buy seeds from abroad on a regular basis without an issue.

You guys know you're in a forum for Michigan Patients, right?

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

Huel Perkins said:
You guys know you're in a forum for Michigan Patients, right?

And? Being a patient has nothing to do with being legal. Did you notice that there is a forum for UK patients, there are no UK patients, it's a class B drug with zero medical value. How could we possibly be patients if it's illegal. Equally there are no doubt people who are patients for an issue, yet who are not registered card holders, yet may still use cannabis.

Oh, and the forum is for "medical marijuana FOR patients in X", not "medical marijuana patients". Big difference.

Huel Perkins · Dec 11, 2013

tip top toker said:
And? Being a patient has nothing to do with being legal. Did you notice that there is a forum for UK patients, there are no UK patients, it's a class B drug with zero medical value. How could we possibly be patients if it's illegal. Equally there are no doubt people who are patients for an issue, yet who are not registered card holders, yet may still use cannabis.

Oh, and the forum is for "medical marijuana FOR patients in X", not "medical marijuana patients". Big difference.

Again, this is a topic in the Michigan Patients forum. Not the United Kingdom, not other US states, just Michigan.

mrCRC420 · Dec 11, 2013

Are any of you Michigonians and others (myself included, tho I have reciprocity there) worried that our US-Grown/Crafted strains are going to disappear with the overseas-seed-buying-binge that's going on? I think within 5 years the majority of our weed will be european genetics. I've already got UK Cheese in 2 of my strains.... Or does nobody care? I'm totally on the fence.

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

Huel Perkins said:
Again, this is a topic in the Michigan Patients forum. Not the United Kingdom, not other US states, just Michigan.

And? What does that have to do with the legality? That was your argument. Are you saying any cannabis patient in Michigan can legally obtain their supplies without any card or reccomendation? Being a cannabis patient has nothing to do with being a legal card holder.

And mrCRC, i don't think it's too much of an issue. Plenty of American breeders sell their seeds to the european seedbanks to increase marketshare. If anything it's increasing their abundance, not hampering it.

brimck325 · Dec 11, 2013

mrCRC420 said:
Are any of you Michigonians and others (myself included, tho I have reciprocity there) worried that our US-Grown/Crafted strains are going to disappear with the overseas-seed-buying-binge that's going on? I think within 5 years the majority of our weed will be european genetics. I've already got UK Cheese in 2 of my strains.... Or does nobody care? I'm totally on the fence.

prolly 80% of genetics sold in uk. are from breeders in usa.

welshwizzard · Dec 11, 2013

mrCRC420 said:
Are any of you Michigonians and others (myself included, tho I have reciprocity there) worried that our US-Grown/Crafted strains are going to disappear with the overseas-seed-buying-binge that's going on? I think within 5 years the majority of our weed will be european genetics. I've already got UK Cheese in 2 of my strains.... Or does nobody care? I'm totally on the fence.

Im UK based, but am on the flip side from you.

I cant get enough of the Cali / Bay strains. Sin City are blowing my mind, Alien gear is shit hot.

I've had so much and so many cheeses I want something completely different.

I WANT us to run strains from what crazy genetics you guys are coming up with.

Huel Perkins · Dec 11, 2013

tip top toker said:
And? What does that have to do with the legality? That was your argument. Are you saying any cannabis patient in Michigan can legally obtain their supplies without any card or reccomendation? Being a cannabis patient has nothing to do with being a legal card holder.

And mrCRC, i don't think it's too much of an issue. Plenty of American breeders sell their seeds to the european seedbanks to increase marketshare. If anything it's increasing their abundance, not hampering it.

When someone in Michigan calls themselves a patient it means they are registered to the Michigan Medical Marihuana Program and has their card. A registered Michigan patient can legally buy seeds in person.

Huel Perkins · Dec 11, 2013

mrCRC420 said:
Are any of you Michigonians and others (myself included, tho I have reciprocity there) worried that our US-Grown/Crafted strains are going to disappear with the overseas-seed-buying-binge that's going on? I think within 5 years the majority of our weed will be european genetics. I've already got UK Cheese in 2 of my strains.... Or does nobody care? I'm totally on the fence.

I think the complete opposite.

abe supercro · Dec 11, 2013

The best genetics are being produced by the us. Everyone knows the us has thee best seeds! perhaps some are manufactured in Spain... but most of euro available seeds now have been blessed by Americans. I have an orthodox rabbai living next to seeded plants, he does a special chant that insures dankness to follow.

fearnoevil said:
You're an idiot and don't have a clue what you're talking about. I've been ordering seeds online for over 12 years, starting with the Attitude and then last year changed over to Herbies - I'veplaced nearly 20 orders over this time period and NEVER, and I mean NEVER have I had any of my orders seized! AND JUST GOT MY LATEST ORDER FROM HERBIES 2 DAYS AGO WITHOUT A HITCH!!! Arrived 5 days after I ordered em AND are some, if not THE, most beautiful seeds I've seen yet, incredible quality (Holy Grail Kush from DNA Genetics and THC Bomb from Bomb Seeds) plus they gave me 16 FREE SEEDS TO BOOT!!

So if anyone is the FUCKHEAD it's you! Plus you have got to be one monumental moron advising to people to buy seeds LOCALLY HERE IN THE US of A!! That isn't even remotely a good idea, it's dumb and IMO dangerous advice!!! Please don't listen to this guy, ordering seeds FROM REPUTABLE OVERSEAS VENDORS is safe - I've NEVER heard of anyone getting busted or in any trouble at all from this practice, though shipments can get damaged, lost and, on the extremely rare occasion seized. Pay a little extra for insurance/stealth packaging and you don't have to sweat it.

EDIT: Okay so after reading beyond the 1st page I see the OP toned it down a bit, so I would like to reciprocate ;?D I get the cranky bit, kinda like what I just experienced when I read someone unjustly knocking on Herbies (they been good to me so I got their back, yo ;?). So pleez excuse the rant - now where's that "z" haten fool at?
;?D

Ha good post made me chuckle.. yer rant. I did notice however that you do need to work on yer spellin'.

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

Huel Perkins said:
When someone in Michigan calls themselves a patient it means they are registered to the Michigan Medical Marihuana Program and has their card. A registered Michigan patient can legally buy seeds in person.

No, your generalization states that that is the case. I'm sure there are plenty of patients, who use marijuana, for medical reasons, who are not legal card holders. Stop trying to tar everyone with your brush.

The simple fact is there are patients in michigan who are not legally allowed to buy seeds, but use medical cannabis (cannabis being medical has NOTHING to do with legality) and order seeds quite happily from abroad. Deal with it.

Rrog · Dec 11, 2013

No, in the vernacular, "Patient" has implied legal implications. In my estimation /observation, if a person doesn't have a card, they wouldn't likely call themselves a patient. Nor would they likely be described as a patient.

Sick folks using the Canna without a card? Not called a patient. Again, my observations.

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

I am personally not concerned with legal implications. If i have an issue, such as depression, and cannabis helps it, i consider myself a medical cannabis patient. I could not care if someone claims i'm not because i'm not ticked off by the law, i'm a aptient who uses marijuana for my illness, i'm a medical marijuana patient.

We shall just ahve to disgaree. It's all rather relevent at the end of the day though. People happily buy seeds from abroad, which isn't a risky gamble.

Huel Perkins · Dec 11, 2013

tip top toker said:
No, your generalization states that that is the case. I'm sure there are plenty of patients, who use marijuana, for medical reasons, who are not legal card holders. Stop trying to tar everyone with your brush.

The simple fact is there are patients in michigan who are not legally allowed to buy seeds, but use medical cannabis (cannabis being medical has NOTHING to do with legality) and order seeds quite happily from abroad. Deal with it.

Any cannabis related business in Michigan that has a patients only rule or asked if you're a patient, means they are asking if you have you card, they're not just asking if you smoke weed lol!

So now you know, when someone says Michigan patient, it means they're legal. No more excuses for your ignorance now...

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

Out of curiosity, if the federal government does not consider cannabis as having medical properties, are you a patient? For instance if you were a legally medical patient in one state, and visited a non-medical state, and someone was criticising you on your use of it, would you be allowed to say you are a patient, or just that you are a patient in the legal state?

I just find it rather interesting what people consider a cannabis patient. Because i know we all couldn't give a damn about what the law sais else we'd also obey federal law. Until it's shown in court that federal doesn't trump state (which i have read varying things about based on the constitution or some such, but also read that despite constitutional claims, the feds still win)

Not trying to cause argument, i just don't agree with someone not being a patient just because they don't have a legal nod of approval.

tip top toker · Dec 11, 2013

Huel Perkins said:
Any cannabis related business in Michigan that has a patients only rule or asked if you're a patient, means they are asking if you have you card, they're not just asking if you smoke weed lol!

So now you know, when someone says Michigan patient, it means they're legal. No more excuses for your ignorance now...

Legally. But if i moved to michigan, i wouldn't have a card, but i'd still call myself a marijuana patient. So if i were to say that, it doesn't mean it's legal, but it doesn't change me being a patient, just not a legally approved patient.

Huel Perkins · Dec 11, 2013

Using cannabis from medicinal purposes in the state of Michigan does not make you what we here refer to as a Michigan Medical Marihuana patient.

Period.

pSi007 · Dec 11, 2013

my attitude order arrived.. It went through the San Fransisco ICS (customs)

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