Drop bloom time to 5-6 wks on most strains and increase yield.
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They still take a full 42 days not 5 weeks or anything. I didnt claim it increased the THC. I did say it seems to have increased yield a little. Two pack per light mixed strains. I am pretty sure more can be had by having all the same strains in the same space to make it more uniform.
Appreciate you being cooler in this last post.
Frustrating when I simply posted to share knowledge and get bashed for it.....
jebcorlis
Active Member
I second this and ypu have provided evidence that your plants are not finished in the form of your pics here a my plants at 44 days I still have a long way to go
With all your experience I'd think you wouldn't just look at the numbers. I backed way off the base nutes first watering to add the MOAB, then normal nutes for next 9 days. Only one watering with the MOAB initially. Then backed off again to add the Koolbloom. No yellowing at all. ZERO. Healthiest damn plans I have grown honestly. Just started two more trays the same way over a week ago. Look perfect. They are in Coco.
I have little no no experience with Bushload but I know it lists PGRs and clearly states ornamental plants only.
Yes I have done nutes by weight but there really is no need. Dry nutes say 1 teaspoon you simply add 5 ml. Works perfectly well in all methods of growing I have done. Ebb Flow, drain to waste spoil and coco. Never lock out never any need to flush until the last week.
As for my years, that is how long I have been serious about it. First grow was in 1983.
FYI it even states on MOAB container to use first week to help initiate flowering. I only used it once not the whole week. Koolbloom is a mid bloom booster as well. I dont know why using them in this fashion would scare anyone or cause any issues. What do my pictures show that doesnt add up for you ?
LOL no not by any means. Both labs have tested my strains . The numbers are THCA-A. Typical THC listed at clubs. They have at least 50% of their strains over 20%. 24-25% is nothing that uncommon at all around here. Highest I have seen is 28% ... not mine. Laugh all you want. There is a reason the clubs out here take ours over so many other people trying to compete with us. It is a buyers market now.
Charface, yes I suppose I could since you are asking nicely. Should have most of them in hand by early next week. There is "someome's" Critical Plus at Elemental Wellness on their menu at 24.73%. Amazing but I guess there are others getting scary close results to mine. Hmmmmmmmmm *Edit* Nevermind they sold out. You have to check the box to show out of stock strains to see it. 24.73%. One of my shittier strains Cotton Candy just tested at 22%. It has more in it. I chopped them little early to start on next batch in that room. Pretty sure it will hit 24% on round I have finishing in two weeks. Looks a lot better than the last one anyway. Stickier. This place has that strain too at EXACTLY the same THC content. http://grannypurps.com/menu/
StanlySpedowski
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Let's see some pics of this cotton candy, or any other you have currently going. Not some link to someone else stuff of the same strain.
You might be telling the truth about your grows and plants that you produce (still dont think youre getting that quality by reducing the flower time in this manner). But, no one is going to believe you or listen to you unless you show pics. You have already posted some pics so there should be no problem snapping a few more.
You sound like you're full of shit. Why dont you just post some of these reports showing the thc content?
chuck estevez
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AND YET, No report to post. Still waiting.
Dr. Who
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I don't have trouble in believing his total THC #'s.
I have strains that produce good totals too. Some have spanked 27% before (a chemdawg pheno I've had going for years has done it a few times - Organic) and have no problem getting a 24+% average in several. If you can boost your trich production and run them out long ENOUGH. It's not that hard.
Chemdawg = cutting from NorCal
Ghost cut OG = Dr. Greenthumb
NY Sourdiesel = Greenthumb
Black Russian = Delicious
Blue Cheese = Budda
Mickey Kush = TGA
Pineapple chunk = Barney's
Pineapple express VERY sativa dominate pheno = G13 (This is an "odd" pheno that does not resemble the "normal" PE in almost any way and runs 12-14 weeks to finish. Found in the beans hatched. Foxtails like crazy and gets purple with very little "prodding". My avatar is a pic of it!).
These are the one's off the top of my mind that hit the 24+% range at almost every harvest.......I don't test every grow as our state's congress (in it's infinite wisdom) has closed our dispensaries. I'm waiting till they pass the pending legislation (not holding my breath) to allow the reopening of. I'll reopen ours and return to testing everything then. Our patients have trusted my products for years and don't ask for test results as their very familiar with what their getting at this point.
Anyway, props for the concentrations your getting. I do believe that.
You will not get me to believe the no yellowing and short run times though....I just may give your theory a quick 2 plant side by side for shits and giggles (just for the plain fun of it - not to report back here and do the "see, I was right" thing). I still do serious testing and am about to do one on PAR lighting. I find that doing things like that and the quickie of yours are half the fun in growing. I'll tell you what. I won't be running the same plants, but, IF it works. I'll dig this post thread BACK up out of the basement and say in it, "IT WORKS". But, if it doesn't. I won't do anything,,,,it simply will have not worked (I will PM you what happened, but just so you know and NOT to gloat).
I still say it didn't happen that way.
P.S. I do from time to time on specific strains. Give them a one time SMALL "bump" (2.5ml of PK 13/14 per gal - from Hesi) of P&K at the flip to flower for the same reason that Mad Farmer (MOAB) and AN (Bud Blood) say to.
I have strains that produce good totals too. Some have spanked 27% before (a chemdawg pheno I've had going for years has done it a few times - Organic) and have no problem getting a 24+% average in several. If you can boost your trich production and run them out long ENOUGH. It's not that hard.
Chemdawg = cutting from NorCal
Ghost cut OG = Dr. Greenthumb
NY Sourdiesel = Greenthumb
Black Russian = Delicious
Blue Cheese = Budda
Mickey Kush = TGA
Pineapple chunk = Barney's
Pineapple express VERY sativa dominate pheno = G13 (This is an "odd" pheno that does not resemble the "normal" PE in almost any way and runs 12-14 weeks to finish. Found in the beans hatched. Foxtails like crazy and gets purple with very little "prodding". My avatar is a pic of it!).
These are the one's off the top of my mind that hit the 24+% range at almost every harvest.......I don't test every grow as our state's congress (in it's infinite wisdom) has closed our dispensaries. I'm waiting till they pass the pending legislation (not holding my breath) to allow the reopening of. I'll reopen ours and return to testing everything then. Our patients have trusted my products for years and don't ask for test results as their very familiar with what their getting at this point.
Anyway, props for the concentrations your getting. I do believe that.
You will not get me to believe the no yellowing and short run times though....I just may give your theory a quick 2 plant side by side for shits and giggles (just for the plain fun of it - not to report back here and do the "see, I was right" thing). I still do serious testing and am about to do one on PAR lighting. I find that doing things like that and the quickie of yours are half the fun in growing. I'll tell you what. I won't be running the same plants, but, IF it works. I'll dig this post thread BACK up out of the basement and say in it, "IT WORKS". But, if it doesn't. I won't do anything,,,,it simply will have not worked (I will PM you what happened, but just so you know and NOT to gloat).
I still say it didn't happen that way.
P.S. I do from time to time on specific strains. Give them a one time SMALL "bump" (2.5ml of PK 13/14 per gal - from Hesi) of P&K at the flip to flower for the same reason that Mad Farmer (MOAB) and AN (Bud Blood) say to.
Cascadian
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They claim BS short run times for all their strains...
I agree charface, i just grew out a cut of sugar plum (that came directly from SGG), frostiest plant i have grown, great earthy sweet aroma, healthy plant. The ridiculous claims by stoney girl gardens really is a shame. I think they said 35 days for it, I cut at 69 but I prefer less amber...
I agree charface, i just grew out a cut of sugar plum (that came directly from SGG), frostiest plant i have grown, great earthy sweet aroma, healthy plant. The ridiculous claims by stoney girl gardens really is a shame. I think they said 35 days for it, I cut at 69 but I prefer less amber...
What do you want pics of the finished product, the ones growing now ? I already stated I would have the actual lab results in hand for at least 3 of them this week. They test and post up results after they take the product. Why do you think I slected the two links to different strains like that that were EXACTLY the same results as mine ? Hint hint ....... If I was just showing random stuff I would have lied and gave out links to all the other strains they have that are higher than the cotton candy. Elemental will have more this coming week of the Critical +, or so I have heard. Pretty sure the results should be darn near the same as the 24.7% since I "heard" they were grown from the same batch.
So just because its beyond you comprehension/ability you assume its BS ? Funny I never think that way with growing. I always ask how and then ask more questions. Do that many people really come on this forum and just make shit up that you guys dont trust anything people say to you ? Pretty sad if that is the case.
FYI in 9 years of growing full time I never had anything look finished before 7 weeks/49 days. I admitted early on in this thread that I couldnt believe it either despite seeing it with my own eyes. I guess it shouldnt surprise me other in here dont. First thing that has gotten me to want to post in this forum in a good 5 years and I get mostly negative responses lol... Here I thought I would get lots of reps and thanks ...... It seems very few people know about this little secret. A few others have posted up saying its nothing new yet still most choose to no believe. It has been discussed and documented long ago that PGRs can and will drop ATLEAST 10 days from your bloom time. Like I said MOAB has been rumoured for a long time to contain PGRs. No its not listed but it wasnt listed on many other products either in the past. Its no smoke and mirrors, its not magic is nothing amazing. It does make sense if you actually know enough about how these plants grow and about these products.
I may have mentioned this but interestingly enough someone called long distance wanting some cuts I had. He asked me about the bloom time on my version of AFwreck. I told him previously it took about 9 weeks but I just had some finish in 6 weeks . I told him what I did differently and right away he knew exactly what was talking about. He has done the same exact thing for years. He was the one that told me to start flushing at day 35. I thought it was crazy but upon further inspection they did look like they could finish out within a week so I did. Sure enough he was right. The trichs dont lie. Bud formation and trichs were all perfectly finished at day 42 no ifs and or buts about it. Lab results also confirmed this which is why I mentioned them to begin with.
you can lead a horse to water but you sure as hell can't make him drink.......
StanlySpedowski
Active Member
Lol, seriously? At this point any pics will do of YOUR plants or YOUR test results.
You really don't see why people dont believe you after responses like that? Its not like its just me that is skeptical of this. Everyone else in this thread thinks you're full of shit. And that is your fault for the way you have chosen to do this. If I had a technique like this or something similar that legitimately worked and I really wanted to help people. I would have posted as many pics as I could and as much proof as I could that this was legit. I would also have done a side by side with 2 of the same clones showing people the progress through the grow.
Links to dispensaries carrying the same strain grown by someone else is not proof that you have grown these strains to the same quality. I doubt the people that supplied the strains to these dispensaries you're linking to, grew it with the same technique you're describing. Do you have proof that they did?
Why cant you post pics of your current cotton candy or tests that you said you had run against your strains showing the thc content? Because they dont exist. If they did, you would have posted one of the tests done against your strains by now or shown some other pics of your grow. Because you have posted some pics, so its not like you're opposed to showing pics of your plants. You also said that you would have posted the test results if I wasn't such an asshole to you.
Come on man, someone called you long distance wanting your cuts and this person is the only other person that has agreed with you. Just go back and read your posts imagining they were written by someone other than you and you've never heard of this technique. You'll see why everyone in here is skeptical and if you aren't full of shit will realize that you should post some actual direct proof of this technique. Or shut the fuck up about it and stop leading people that dont know better down this ridiculous path of growing.
Wow, I gave you too much credit earlier obviously. Are you seriously this dense ? You cant put two and two together ? What are the odds someone would have the same strain that tests EXACTLY the same as someone else to the tenth of a percent? LOL, I cant believe you didnt read between those very clear lines. I made it quite obvious when I first posted that. Made it even more obvious the last time I posted it. Damn dude, stop smoking pot for two seconds so your brain can actually understand what someone is saying to you. I am mean really, I said it very clearly I would have those results IN HAND this week. WTF is so hard to understand about that ? A club takes what you bring them and they test it. Later you get the results yourself. I guess you didn't know that since you have never had a club take yours LOL. fvcking noob growers.
Posted pictures of MY PLANTS. I honestly dont know how people like you sleep at night. Being so paranoid of everyone. It is really quite amusing to see . The thing is, I have heard of this technique. IT IS NOTHING NEW. I just never knew it could work so well. Sorry for trying to burst your bubble and informing you of a better way to grow.
I have contributed to this forum for many many years. What have you done other then stir shit up? All you do is start shouting out insults the minute someone posts things you cant wrap that little brain around. Pathetic
I shouldnt even bother posting up results. You and probably some others will just say it doesnt prove anything. There is no way I could possibly prove to you my results as far as finish time. Even if I took a picture every day it wouldn't prove anything to you. Paranoid people that believe everyone is lying to them can't be taught much. Sad but true. Why dont you take your prick parade to someone else's thread. Maybe I'll post the results just to shut you the hell up about the THC levels at least. I can at least prove to you and a few select others calling BS that YOU are the ones that clearly dont know shit about certain parts of this industry.
To the rest of the people that posted that were cool, sorry. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have. The static you have to deal with on these forums is exactly why I stopped posting 5 or so years ago. I didnt remember it being quite this bad back then.
Have knwon others growing that strain and it is average in every way. Decent yield. Quality is below 20%, I recall more in the 15-16% range. BC has been known for being full of shit for as long as I can remember.
DemonTrich
Well-Known Member
FIXED!!!!
and you've been a contributor for years huh? feb2014 join date says other wise.
STOP FEEDING THE TROLL EVERYONE!!!!!!
StanlySpedowski
Active Member
Wow.
I have grown the kosher kush and platinum og to 20% and 22%. and just supplied some to a local dispensary.
You can see my test results here clicking on the pictures:
http://www.thecliniccolorado.com/menus/colorado-menu
What are the odds that anyone else in the world has grown the exact same strains to that close of a percentage, that has to be my bud right? I mean I said that I grew it to that % and then found a dispensary online that has those EXACT strains within .5%....that shows no proof I have supplied to them.
Im guessing you wouldn't believe that, right? Now go reread what you just posted and understand the skepticism.
The reason no one believes you is that pic of the plants you posted showed no signs of high P or K like you said you are using. There is no way to avoid at least some yellowing of the leaves if you follow your technique.
Who are these other people that are being cool. Everyone in the last couple of pages called BS on your claims in one way or another.
I wont post in your thread anymore so you can help these other people who want to learn your technique.