Drug Testing Schools

smokincrazy

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Teenagers to face random drug testing at all schools

By Alexandra Blair, Education Correspondent

RANDOM drug-testing is set to be rolled out to all secondary schools in England as part of a crackdown on drug use among pupils.

From September, schoolchildren in Kent will be tested with mouth swabs for drugs, including cannabis, cocaine and heroin.

The move follows a pilot scheme at The Abbey School in Faversham that was said to have transformed the behaviour of pupils, as well as their results.

Peter Walker, the school’s former head teacher, said: “We had our best set of exam results in the school’s history. There was less disruption in the classroom, less incidents in the playground or on the way to school.”

Mr Walker, who has been appointed as an adviser to help schools throughout England to implement the scheme, said that 86 per cent of parents at his 960-pupil school had signed up to the programme in January 2005. No pupil was forced to take part, but if they refused, their parents were called in. The school had also pledged to expel no one, unless they were involved in drug dealing.

Over the year, 600 random drug tests were carried out on pupils aged between 11 and 18. One child tested positive for cannabis. Mr Walker said that one of the main benefits had been to encourage pupils to say no to drugs .

“We found that children now had a way of saying no which was acceptable to their peer group. Very quickly a lot of children said they’d not try drugs, because knowing their luck they’d be the next to be tested,” he said.

The Abbey is a non-selective specialist school for business and enterprise whose catchment area includes the second most deprived council ward in the county. Having previously reached a high of 30 per cent of pupils achieving five A* to C GCSE grades, 41 per cent of its pupils achieved the same grades last year.

Heads at 103 secondaries will be asked to join the Kent scheme. It will not be compulsory, but the schools will be assessed by Neil McKegeney, a professor at the centre for drugs misuse at Glasgow University, to see if Abbey’s results are replicated.

“If it’s properly evaluated in a positive way, it will clearly be a model to be rolled out across the United Kingdom,” said Mr Walker, who was appointed as the Government’s ambassador for random drug-testing after retiring as Abbey’s head two months ago.

A Department of Health report recently disclosed that one in every 50 schoolchildren claimed to have taken cocaine and 12 per cent said that they had smoked cannabis. Overall, 19 per cent said that they had taken illegal drugs — up from 11 per cent in 1998.

Yesterday advisors to the Department for Education and Skills said that they would support all schools adopting the same approach, in consultation with parents. Alan Johnson, the new Education Secretary, said: “Mr Walker’s drive and commitment is impressive. A A key factor was peer pressure by the kids against taking drugs.

“I am determined schools should have all the support they need to tackle this issue.”

The DFES said it hoped that research alongside the Kent pilot would establish whether there was a direct link between random testing and behaviour, attendance and academic achievement. However, it emphasised that random drug-testing would not be mandatory and it would be up to every individual head teacher to adopt it “if they feel it’s right for them”.

Last night Martin Ward, deputy general-secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders, said that at present few head teachers carried out random drug-testing, because of the fears of infringing human rights and jeopardising relations between pupils and staff. “I suspect many more will take it up happily enough if they’re part of a general trend, but I’m sure a number will be reluctant to do so,” he said.

“It’s not something many school leaders want to adopt because clearly to some degree there’s an infringement of privacy and it does tend to change relations between the school and pupils to a degree.”
 

MHJ

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You'd think that would be an invasion of privacy. Since students aren't civil servents, you'd wonder where they assume they get the authority
 

crassus

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The invasion of privacy concept has become common and accepted of late. Students in the U.S., especially, have lost so many of the freedoms that I had when I was in school. Just the fact that so many distracts now require the use of see through book-bags says a lot.
 

Dolly

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Amazing.
Your kids can't be seen by the 'nit nurse' anymore, but they can be tested for drugs.

Thing is, the parent will back it, because they see cannibis usage as leading to the harder stuff and so think they are protecting their kids.
 

crassus

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Thumperfive said:
doesn't say what the penalties are, if any tho... the parents might not care.
Yeah, parents would probably definately back drug testing if they do not have to pay for it. It's a way to find out if their supposed angel is what he/she claims to be.
 

summerrose

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i'm sure to be vilified for this but ... IMO: if you are in school (regardless of age!) bear in mind, ganja affects short term memory.

Dolly's comment about parents being afraid of their kids going on to the harder stuff: I wonder if that's what those parents did, themselves (or saw their friends do) with alcohol consumption.
 

crassus

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summerrose said:
i'm sure to be vilified for this but ... IMO: if you are in school (regardless of age!) bear in mind, ganja affects short term memory.

Dolly's comment about parents being afraid of their kids going on to the harder stuff: I wonder if that's what those parents did, themselves (or saw their friends do) with alcohol consumption.
You know a lot of parents have done or experienced the situations that they preach against. I am not a parent, myself, but I am sure parents probably hate it when kids use the excuse for their actions, that their parents did it.
 

Thumperfive

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that's why communication sucks between kids and parents - they're always afraid to say anything to the kids 'cause they did the same thing.
 

Dolly

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Don't you think it's the media hype as well though?

How many parents out there, don't think cannabis will lead to the harder stuff?
 

Dolly

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Well, it may just be me, but I don't ever remember anyone taking drugs of any sort (other than smoking) when I was at school.

I clearly remember when I left, at 16, there were quite a few punks got heavily into stuff, but they would be a couple of years older than me.
 

Newbierock

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This is stupid, i'm still in school. But I have never smoked in/before school, but i'll still pass positive on these tests. Surely I can do whatever the fuck I want in my free time? who are they to tell me what I can and can't do to my body.

What pisses me of the most is that they're gonna end up thinking I take drugs at school. - Only retards do that.
 

ViRedd

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First, kids should NOT be smoking MJ, period.

Second: Someone asked from where do the authorities derive their power to infringe on our precious liberty of being left alone? They just assume the authority and as long as the citizens go along with it without a fight, or protest, they will just keep "assuming" the power until all of our liberties are gone. Ask yourselves this question: If alcohol prohibition took a constitutional amendment, and another amendment to repeal it, from where do our liege lords in Washington derive the power for their insane drug war? In reading the Constitution and Bill of Rights, I can not find that authority. Can any of you?

Vi
 

spearingflame

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Yes, This is a total invation of ones privacy..Where Im from if this is gonna happen they need to drug test these half ass teachers.. My son mentioned this to me ..And said I was the first person in my class to raise my hand and say no.I smoke and if you think Im going to take a taste I will..But I will fail. People looked at him like "what the hell are you doing " And my son said freedom of speech..I can say what ever I want as long as it is reasonable.
So far My son has average grades, Now and days smoking a lil weed is the least of our problems.Stop trying to take candy from baby's and go on to the bigger problems...I dont think this will never pass..Because the world is getting to fucked up to be tryin to test every individual for substances such as Marijuana or cocaine or anything else.. Go and find a cure for cancer or Aids..Everyone has their own idea of whats right or wrong.. I rather do the wrong thing to do whats right..if that makes any since.:?:
 

SuperHI TnT

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Amazing.
Your kids can't be seen by the 'nit nurse' anymore, but they can be tested for drugs.

Thing is, the parent will back it, because they see cannibis usage as leading to the harder stuff and so think they are protecting their kids.
this is a load of fucking bullshit the schools in usa will love this fuckin idea it is so fucking comunist its like a nazi movement and not only that wat will it solve they cant punish you and if they did i wouldnt take that lieing down i would fight for that and PLUS that is a major misuse of funds my parents dont pay taxes to pay a school to administer drug test fuck this world:wall:
 

skunkushybrid

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Drug Tests or piss tests as they are more commonly known have been around in prisons for about ten years now. They are mandatory but you can refuse to take it, whereby you are charged with dis-obeying a direct order and usually lose double the days you would have for a guilty plea on cannabis.

Parents have the right to refuse that their children are given piss tests. I for one will be one of those. It's a moral stand. Children will also have the right to refuse, they cannot force you to do anything.

What's wrong with kids smoking cannabis?

It's an occurence in life that you can't stop. Live and let live.

So I wouldn't worry, this is an experiment for the Government, a media exercise to gather public opinion, or rather to tell the public what it's opinion should be.
 

jacgrass420

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i smoked pot all throughout my schoolyears and i did ok, im just glad i dont have to go to school anymore,i feel bad fer all you lil stoners and as for drug testing at the workplace, i think its just another way to control us they shouldnt be able to tell us what we can and cant do outside of work. and they def shouldnt be able to test us for it.
 

jacgrass420

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This is stupid, i'm still in school. But I have never smoked in/before school, but i'll still pass positive on these tests. Surely I can do whatever the fuck I want in my free time? who are they to tell me what I can and can't do to my body.

What pisses me of the most is that they're gonna end up thinking I take drugs at school. - Only retards do that.
this is what im talking about they are trying to take away our damn well deserved and earned leisure time, and i for onwe am fucking pissed.
 

ViRedd

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Question: What's wrong with kids smoking cannabis?

Answer: We have enough of a Twinkie shortage as it is!

Vi


 
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